Florida police raid home of former state Covid-19 data scientist

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Lifer
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I can find you 30 cases in the last year where officers shoot unarmed black people without being shit first. Let's not be dumbasses here. There's a story right now of a young black guy killed by cops in ohio as he was literally entering his home. Keys were in the door and gunned down because they were looking for someone else basically. Try to be less of a cancerous dumbass.
I’m going to disagree. If they shot unarmed black people they were shit first. ;)
 
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Pohemi

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Excuse me but isn't that exactly what happened in the Breonna Taylor case?
If cops break your door down without announcing their ID or intent, apparently you should just stand by and wait for them to do their thing if you are black. You only have the right to protect yourself in your own home if you are a white redneck? Or some bullshit...

It isn't like police performed a no-knock warrant or anything...it isn't like there was possible justification for the person in the apartment to open fire when police failed to announce themselves because of a bullshit no-knock obtained on false pretenses.

It's all same-same!! #whataboutism

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I can find you 30 cases in the last year where officers shoot unarmed black people without being shit first. Let's not be dumbasses here. There's a story right now of a young black guy killed by cops in ohio as he was literally entering his home. Keys were in the door and gunned down because they were looking for someone else basically. Try to be less of a cancerous dumbass.

Were not talking about cases in general - so I agree, lets not be dumbasses here and bring up irrelevant cases here. We're talking about legally serving search warrants.
 
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allisolm

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Not to being up a sore subject but could she have refused to open the door and defend herself with a gun using the castle doctrine? She didn't know who these people were. Defend herself just like Cliven Bundy?

If cops break your door down without announcing their ID or intent, apparently you should just stand by and wait for them to do their thing if you are black. You only have the right to protect yourself in your own home if you are a white redneck?


According to our local reports she refused to open the door and hung up on repeated phone calls from the officers outside for almost half an hour. If true, and those things should be verifiable, I could understand why they were extra cautious when entering.
 

Pohemi

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According to our local reports she refused to open the door and hung up on repeated phone calls from the officers outside for almost half an hour. If true, and those things should be verifiable, I could understand why they were extra cautious when entering.
Seems odd. Everything I've read on it said that the officers served a 'no-knock' warrant, meaning no knock at the door, no announcements, etc. Wasn't she in bed sleeping when she was shot?

I find it hard to believe that her boyfriend would have just opened fire on police if they had announced themselves before breaking the door in. It's possible, but unlikely.
 
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Seems odd. Everything I've read on it said that the officers served a 'no-knock' warrant, meaning no knock at the door, no announcements, etc. Wasn't she in bed sleeping when she was shot?

I find it hard to believe that her boyfriend would have just opened fire on police if they had announced themselves before breaking the door in. It's possible, but unlikely.

Link story from earlier mentioned the police (assumingly) knocked and spoke with her husband and she denied calls from the Police.
Doesn’t sound like a no knock warrant.
I still say this is a really strange thing to send the Police to. If you have evidence send her a court summons.
 

Pohemi

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According to our local reports she refused to open the door and hung up on repeated phone calls from the officers outside for almost half an hour. If true, and those things should be verifiable, I could understand why they were extra cautious when entering.
Link story from earlier mentioned the police (assumingly) knocked and spoke with her husband and she denied calls from the Police.
Doesn’t sound like a no knock warrant.
I think I just misunderstood and thought you were referring to Breonna Taylor, not the data scientist. That makes sense.
 

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I've explained this plenty of times for the legal case against social media for the cushy lifestyle that are able to employ with the protection of Section 230 of the CDA.

You are either a utility - such as a telephone company - where you aren't held liable for the actions that are done over your lines of communication. You are just the person connecting person A to person B. You don't monitor or censor what is happening over the lines of communication, because you aren't liable for it.

OR - You are a publisher. Someone that publishes content, articles, etc... and ARE liable for what is published on your platform.


Why is a TV channel - newspaper website - magazine, etc... potentially liable for what they publish, but social media isn't? Why are they also deemed a utility for protection, but they are able to have teams of thousands of HUMAN people that are determining if content is appropriate in their human eyes or not? (Hint: Unbias humans simply do not exist).

How is a social media platform unlike a television network? Hmm. Because the network controls all its own content while social media allows individual users to post their own. Same with newspapers.

How is a social media unlike the telephone? Hmm. Because what you say over the phone is not broadcast to the whole world and doesn't in any way reflect on the phone company.

The internet and social media are not like other forms of media. It doesn't fit into either traditional model that you describe above. That's why they created new law for it.
 

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Yeah, a "good poster" like yourself ought to follow your own posted advice here. /s
Maybe a "good forum director" could do the same. She has been illegally accessing State of Florida information systems for her own benefit. /s




There is but one venue to complain about the moderation. Inside threads in
P&N is not the place to for it.


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nickqt

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Maybe a "good forum director" could do the same. She has been illegally accessing State of Florida information systems for her own benefit. /s
Don't you have some hilariously insane threads to create, get laughed at for being hilariously wrong about, and then run away from?

Hurry up, cuck, time's a'wastin!
 
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UNCjigga

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I hear something about how the judge who issued the warrant for the raid on Jones was

a) Appointed by DeSantis 3 weeks ago
b) Issuing his first ever warrant, and
c) not even a criminal court judge (Civil only??)

If true... some shady shit is afoot.
 

SmCaudata

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I hear something about how the judge who issued the warrant for the raid on Jones was

a) Appointed by DeSantis 3 weeks ago
b) Issuing his first ever warrant, and
c) not even a criminal court judge (Civil only??)

If true... some shady shit is afoot.
Yep.
 

brycejones

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Maybe a "good forum director" could do the same. She has been illegally accessing State of Florida information systems for her own benefit. /s
What systems specifically do you have proof she illegally accessed? What personal benefit did she receive from this access?

Are you capable of providing real support for your assertions?
 

Zorba

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If cops break your door down without announcing their ID or intent, apparently you should just stand by and wait for them to do their thing if you are black. You only have the right to protect yourself in your own home if you are a white redneck? Or some bullshit...

It isn't like police performed a no-knock warrant or anything...it isn't like there was possible justification for the person in the apartment to open fire when police failed to announce themselves because of a bullshit no-knock obtained on false pretenses.

It's all same-same!! #whataboutism

:rolleyes:
You forgot, they were also wearing plain cloths. Which should be straight up against the law. If you break down a door in plain cloth, caste doctrine should automatically apply no matter how many times you say "no really I'm a cop."
 
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Zorba

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How is a social media platform unlike a television network? Hmm. Because the network controls all its own content while social media allows individual users to post their own. Same with newspapers.

How is a social media unlike the telephone? Hmm. Because what you say over the phone is not broadcast to the whole world and doesn't in any way reflect on the phone company.

The internet and social media are not like other forms of media. It doesn't fit into either traditional model that you describe above. That's why they created new law for it.
The telephone company also doesn't make money on spreading your horseshit to other people.
 

Zorba

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Interesting read.


This mass emergency notification system appeared to be nothing more than a mass email, the login credentials for which could be found on publicly accessible PDFs....
Technically using published login information is still illegally gaining access. But obviously they wouldn't actually bust any one else in these conditions and I doubt any real charges will stick to her. That said, I hope she wouldn't have been dumb enough to do it from home with no VPN.
 

SmCaudata

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Technically using published login information is still illegally gaining access. But obviously they wouldn't actually bust any one else in these conditions and I doubt any real charges will stick to her. That said, I hope she wouldn't have been dumb enough to do it from home with no VPN.
Totally. The level of intensity with which they came after her though didn't match the crime. They are acting like she hijacked the emergency broadcast system to incite a riot.
 

woolfe9998

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The telephone company also doesn't make money on spreading your horseshit to other people.

Well that is the problem with social media. It's a super-spreader of misinformation. Section 230 had to be enacted so that we could have social media pretty much at all. If social media can't moderate content or else face liability for every word posted, then it will be inundated with swill: porn, spam, you name it, and the platforms will not be viable because everyone will flee to the point where even the swill would go away because there wouldn't be anyone there to see it.

So if we really want to get rid of social media as a major force in our society, then we can just repeal section 230. Not saying we should do it, but it's an option.
 
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Pohemi

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...so I agree, lets not be dumbasses here and bring up irrelevant cases here.
The comment was in regards to your previous comments, dummy. Don't act like you're in agreement, you're the one that's bullshitting to begin with. Fucking clown.

She has been illegally accessing State of Florida information systems for her own benefit. /s
Okay clown, explain? She didn't do it just once but many times? Because it's not already illegal that she accessed the system, you just have to stretch and exaggerate what actually happened to make her more "evuhl".

And...how did she benefit from this, exactly? Did Ed McMahon arrive at her door with a giant cardboard check? Did she win a trip to Aruba? Did she steal anything?

Oh. I get it. You're just another lying assclown that can't ever put forward untwisted facts or debate from an honest place. I guess I should have known. Fuck off.
 
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More details and more fishiness

B-B-b-b-but she was in complete innocence and definetly didn't try to hide a narrative by covering up the prequel of her video.

What a fucking moron.