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Florida Man Is Shot to Death for Texting During Movie Previews

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I guess this guy had some serious issues with texting. Seriously this guy is fucked in the head.


A few weeks before a texting dispute turned deadly inside a Florida theater, the suspect Curtis Reeves had another run-in with a moviegoer, prosecutors said.
During Reeves' first court appearance on Tuesday, prosecutors said they have heard from another theater patron who said the 71-year-old former Tampa cop saw her texting and "glared at her the entire time throughout the movie" during a screening about three weeks ago.

When the woman got up to use the restroom, Reeves followed her and "made her very uncomfortable," prosecutors said.

CNN affiliate WTSP later identified the woman as Jamira Dixon of Wesley Chapel, the Tampa suburb where Monday's shooting took place.

"He became just upset about the whole situation and kept staring and kept giving us dirty looks," Dixon told the station.
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/
 
ElMonoDelMar said:
Wasn't it reported that he was carrying in a pocket holster? I doubt there are many (old or young) that could get off a shot from a pocket holster in the amount of time it would take for someone to throw popcorn 2 feet.

Honestly, even if he had it in his hand pointed at the guy's chest, I would doubt that most 70 year olds could even pull the trigger before the popcorn was thrown that short distance. Reaction is always slower than action.
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He shot afterwards.
 
Orignal Earl said:
Fastest Gun Ever - Bob Munden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcZHVspVIDs
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Yea, I think I've seen that video of him before.

But he's got a gun out on a holster, and he KNOWS he's about to be shooting because he's showing off how fast he can do it. He's ready, the gun's ready, and he's deliberately trying to do it as fast as he possibly can.

Compared to a 70 year old man who supposedly reacts to the motion of someone starting to throw popcorn at him, or some such nonsense? How long does it take to go from making the decision to toss popcorn in someone's face, to having done it?
 
ElMonoDelMar said:
Notice the holster he's using. No one would ever use that for CCW. What he does is still very impressive.
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FWIW, Reeves founded the Tampa PD Tactical Unit, so he was likely pretty good on a gun.

Also, Florida's "no gun" signs don't have the force of law, and thus do not supersede LEOSA.
 
ElMonoDelMar said:
Notice the holster he's using. No one would ever use that for CCW. What he does is still very impressive.
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My point is 70 isn't all feeble and needs a cane to get around anymore.
My Uncle is 75 and can run a marathon, go into a mall first thing in the morning when it opens.
Around here, especially in the winter, it's full of elderly people fast walking laps
 
Nebor said:
Also, Florida's "no gun" signs don't have the force of law, and thus do not supersede LEOSA.
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Yah, I was about to look into that, because most of the no gun signs around Texas are like that. unless it's a 30.06 sign, it means nothing. Those silly red bar through a gun signs aren't worth what they are printed on in Texas. I think more than a few states do similar things for their laws in allowing private businesses to notify people they don't want concealed carriers on their premises.

As far as giving him the benefit of the doubt. I always do in a situation like this until more is known. My gut tells me the guy is guilty and as the term goes, should hang for his crimes. However, I'm not the type to start making the noose until I know more details. The detail recently released that the woman had her hand shoot because it was on her husband's chest in an attempt to hold him back is one such detail.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Looks like Stand Your Ground is off the table for this guy. CNN reports Insanity will be the next option.
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"Judge, my client performed a reasonable assessment of the situation that lead him to believe that he was in immediate danger and that fleeing would incur additional risk, therefore acted with deadly force as the only available option."

"That's not going to fly."

"Oh. Judge, my client is out of his mind and has no idea what the hell he was doing."
 
Orignal Earl said:
My point is 70 isn't all feeble and needs a cane to get around anymore.
My Uncle is 75 and can run a marathon, go into a mall first thing in the morning when it opens.
Around here, especially in the winter, it's full of elderly people fast walking laps
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You've got to be pretty quick at that age to continually survive the winter without being dragged off by wolves. :biggrin:
 
HumblePie said:
As far as giving him the benefit of the doubt. I always do in a situation like this until more is known. My gut tells me the guy is guilty and as the term goes, should hang for his crimes. However, I'm not the type to start making the noose until I know more details. The detail recently released that the woman had her hand shoot because it was on her husband's chest in an attempt to hold him back is one such detail.
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The detail I read was that she had her hand on her husband's chest in an attempt to calm him down. That doesn't necessarily mean she was physically trying to hold him back, and if she was, one hand to the chest was a pretty mild way of doing it. A loved one placing her hand on someone to communicate something is natural and something someone would do without even thinking (normally you'd go for the shoulder or something but this guy is a giant compared to her)
 
Exophase said:
"Judge, my client performed a reasonable assessment of the situation that lead him to believe that he was in immediate danger and that fleeing would incur additional risk, therefore acted with deadly force as the only available option."

"That's not going to fly."

"Oh. Judge, my client is out of his mind and has no idea what the hell he was doing."
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His big mistake was forgetting to kill all the witnesses.
 
Exophase said:
"Judge, my client performed a reasonable assessment of the situation that lead him to believe that he was in immediate danger and that fleeing would incur additional risk, therefore acted with deadly force as the only available option."

"That's not going to fly."

"Oh. Judge, my client is out of his mind and has no idea what the hell he was doing."
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This is essentially what is happening
 
HumblePie said:
Yah, I was about to look into that, because most of the no gun signs around Texas are like that. unless it's a 30.06 sign, it means nothing. Those silly red bar through a gun signs aren't worth what they are printed on in Texas. I think more than a few states do similar things for their laws in allowing private businesses to notify people they don't want concealed carriers on their premises.

As far as giving him the benefit of the doubt. I always do in a situation like this until more is known. My gut tells me the guy is guilty and as the term goes, should hang for his crimes. However, I'm not the type to start making the noose until I know more details. The detail recently released that the woman had her hand shoot because it was on her husband's chest in an attempt to hold him back is one such detail.
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Many states have reformed their laws in favor of gun-carriers and against property owner's rights. Florida is one such state, where there is no explicit legal sign that a business can display to keep people from carrying firearms on their property. The best they can do is trespass them if they discover they are carrying a firearm. But say there was an incident, and someone with a firearm was forced to use it; there's no crime to charge them with for carrying a gun there against the property owner's wishes.
 
Nebor said:
You've got to be pretty quick at that age to continually survive the winter without being dragged off by wolves. :biggrin:
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-farmer-shoots-3-wolves-1.907950

Just not wolves, TIMBER WOLVES

sk-wolves-cadrain2-2010.jpg
 
TerryMathews said:
I advise you to review self-defense law in Florida. The Zimmerman thread may be of some help, as the relevant codes were cited numerous times.
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By all means, cite the statute that allows the use of lethal force because you're afraid you're going to be attacked. The law is very clear, you may use deadly force when you "reasonably believe that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm." http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes...ute&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.012.html

The prosecutor will stand in front of the jury, read the applicable law and ask, "ladies and gentlemen, does a reasonable person believe that they are about to be killed because popcorn was thrown at them?" Then, this guy will go to jail for the rest of his life. The only way this guy might get off is if there are witnesses who will state that he was being held down and beaten, or that the deceased had pulled a knife/gun/etc.

PS, this case has nothing in common with Zimmerman. Z was definitely involved in a fight, and claimed he was pinned down and about to be killed. Prosecution had no way to disprove his claim, therefore he got off on presumption of innocence.
 
Venix said:
The "good guy with a gun" argument simply states that in a mass murder situation, the killer will continue his rampage until he encounters armed resistance. If his victims are armed, he's likely to be neutralized sooner than if they have to wait for a police response. Whether it's a legitimate argument is out of scope for this thread since it's completely unrelated to the topic (an argument ending in a single-victim homicide).

I'm honestly surprised that I have to explain this.
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"Mass murder situation?" How often do those actually happen?
 
Rakehellion said:
"Mass murder situation?" How often do those actually happen?
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Too often :/ If the media is any indication, at least as if not more often than concealed carry holders losing it and shooting a stranger over an argument (and not counting that one tends to leave a lot more bodies than the other)
 
bshole said:
I guess this guy had some serious issues with texting. Seriously this guy is fucked in the head.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/
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Just a reminder...... There were lots of similar BS that came out after trayvon got himself shot, where people were coming out of the woodwork making all sorts of claims and almost all turned out to be false.


Sounds like Jamira has some issues herself. We need some hard evidence here, not random nutter gun grabbers trying to jump on the race brigade train.
 
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