I agree with neither, I find it super weird that the people whose life is literally dictated 24/7 by the state have no say in what the state does.
What if the state and the courts have no idea what you owe and have no method to reliably tell you what your debt actually is?
They keep their shrinking base based on the feels. Their policies are designed to ensure that shrinking base is enough to keep them in power. It’s getting harder and harder for them to pull that off though.
Thank you, it will be interesting to see if the conservatives who are angry about this ruling will address the actual reasons behind it.
I understand what you are saying. The only things I am advocating paying before the return of the right to vote are those fines, legal fees, and victim reparations that are adjudicated in the sentencing phase by the judge, not what may be tacked on later. And since they are part of the public record, the State should be required to record them and track them. Those are the payments that we voted for, not some addon after the fact.
I understand what you are saying. The only things I am advocating paying before the return of the right to vote are those fines, legal fees, and victim reparations that are adjudicated in the sentencing phase by the judge, not what may be tacked on later. And since they are part of the public record, the State should be required to record them and track them. Those are the payments that we voted for, not some addons after the fact. Just those that were part of the felony sentence.
The primary system that favors radicalization amongst the GOP biases the elected people to try and entrench their power in the short term.
What do they care? They'll be retired/dead by the time comeuppance rears its ugly head for the party.
LOL, "legal fee's" for a public defender?, only in FL. Virtually all of these will be "added on" since everything possible incurs a charge. Correctly struck down by the Judge.
Surpreme Courts ruling - https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/politics/supreme-court-florida-felons/index.html
The dissent - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19a1071_4h25.pdf
The Supreme Court Just Stopped 1 Million Floridians From Voting in November
The justices refused to halt Florida’s poll tax on ex-felons—and didn’t bother explaining why.slate.com
The news out of Florida, another swing state infamous for assaults on suffrage, is no better. In May, U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle held unconstitutional a Florida scheme that forced ex-felons to pay court-imposed fines and fees before regaining the right to vote. This scheme effectively imposed a poll tax, denying people the ballot unless they had enough money to pay court debt. Moreover, it was totally unworkable: Florida has no idea how much formerly incarcerated people owe and no way to find out. As a result, Hinkle explained, even those ex-felons with the means to pay off court debt could never really be sure they paid in full. And if they miscalculated, they could be prosecuted and imprisoned.
Hinkle devised a system wherein formerly incarcerated people could ask the state to reveal how much court debt they owe. If the state could not provide an answer within three weeks, the individual regained the right to vote. Furthermore, no one could be denied the ballot simply because they couldn’t afford to pay their court debt, since wealth-based disenfranchisement violates the constitution.
On Wednesday, the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals blocked Hinkle’s order, allowing Florida to resume denying registration to people convicted of felonies.And, in a highly unusual move, the court accepted Florida’s request to hear the case en banc before a three-judge panel had the opportunity to hear it. There is only one plausible reason the court, which Donald Trump recently flipped, would’ve taken this rather shady step: The conservative majority likely worried that a three-judge panel would include two liberals who would uphold Hinkle’s order, keeping the Florida scheme on hold through the November election. So they short-circuited the appeals process, handing the state an instant victory by lifting Hinkle’s injunction and a probable long-term victory by siding with Florida down the road.
The Federal Judiciary Tells Disenfranchised Voters: You’re on Your Own
In four awful decisions over the past two weeks, federal courts cleared the way for voter suppression in November.slate.com
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There are court cases from at least 2 states that prove voter suppression by Republicans is real
I guess @blackangst1 just loves playing the role of resident liar. Or perhaps he does that in real life as well.
Care to explain how this is not voter suppression? It literally suppresses peoples ability to vote based on their ability to pay fines.
