theflyingpig
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Nazi? That doesn't even make sense. Killer, murderer, psychopath, demon, baby killer; all of those would have been more appropriate than Nazi. Do you even know what a Nazi is? Do you know what their goals where? Do you?
taltamir
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if you watched the presidential debate, obama said we need to get out of iraq which had nothing to do with september 11, and go into afghanistan and pakistan where the dregs of al qaeda lie. when confronted about the issue that pakistan is a friendly nuclear power he said that if they are not willing to let us in, we will go in anyways.
ranmaniac
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America is acting like the Soviets did. Irresponsible superpower. We take solace in the fact that its demise is just around the corner.
You don't see it because your media is censored. If you look around the internet maybe you will find what it's really like to be someone from Wazrisitan, Afghanistan and Gaza.
I believe he should stand trial just like Bush. I also believe Obama is young and will be alive when justice will be done.
Originally posted by: palehorse
The "demise" of the U.S.?! Seriously!? :laugh:
Didn't you welcome NATO attacks on the Taliban and AQ in Pakistan just a week ago?! Didn't you admit that your own country wasn't doing enough?!
You're ridiculous...
He can't keep his opinions straight. He is about as backwards as his country.
palehorse
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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: palehorse
The "demise" of the U.S.?! Seriously!? :laugh:
Didn't you welcome NATO attacks on the Taliban and AQ in Pakistan just a week ago?! Didn't you admit that your own country wasn't doing enough?!
You're ridiculous...
He can't keep his opinions straight. He is about as backwards as his country.
He's just a mouthpiece for whatever message his Imam chooses to put out every week... my guess is that he hasn't had an original thought since birth.
This is the internet, remember? Anybody can make the claims that you do, while none of the rest of us have the power to verify it, at all. That's why verifiable sources are so important.
And I don't know quite what to think about the missile attacks in Pakistan, other than I don't support them, never have. Those who have and continue to do so share in the responsibility for them, obviously- whether that's GWB, Palehorse, Ocguy31, Alchemize or Obama.
I knew the guy wouldn't be a perfect president when I voted for him- nobody could be, particularly given the situation that the previous admin created. I trust his judgement more than I trusted his predecessor, that's for sure, and more than I trusted his opponent in the election, so we'll just have to wait and see how things work out.
I try not to rely on "facts" not in evidence- the results of doing so are all around us, the wreckage of the Bush Admin. Mere assertion is not necessarily fact, as we've seen, so it's important that we question such assertions to actually determine facts... Just because some talking point is asserted over and over again doesn't make it so.
Originally posted by: palehorse
The "demise" of the U.S.?! Seriously!? :laugh:
Didn't you welcome NATO attacks on the Taliban and AQ in Pakistan just a week ago?! Didn't you admit that your own country wasn't doing enough?!
You're ridiculous...
I welcome them. But I don't welcome your attitude. That's dangerous. And just because I think they're good it doesn't mean they're legal.
Deeko
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hahahaha, Nazi! You just called him a Nazi for supporting military technology that prevents death on his side!
Ummm...are you aware that that's a pretty common goal of military technology? To inflict the most damage possible on the other side, while keeping your side safe?
And on top of that...you...don't actually know what a Nazi is, do you? I'm guessing no. However, you'll respond that I am the one who knows nothing about Nazis, because my media is so censored, but it doesn't matter, because my downfall is imminent!!!
Silly little green bean.
Here are your facts. The strikes will continue on order of Obama.
:thumbsup: to Obama.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...a_st_pe/gates_predator
Lemon law
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- Nov 6, 2005
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I can confirm the Ocguy31 link, as Gates did indeed shoot off his mouth. And did say these preditor strikes will continue inside Pakistan as Official Obama policy. But one critical distinction must be made, so far the verbiage applies to Al-Quida but not necessarily to the Taliban.
In MHO, the Gates stated policy may be no smarter than the already failed GWB policies, but facts are facts and this link may be the last word for now.
Only time will tell if Obama and Petraeus learn a damn thing, but I have to be somewhat optimistic that they will.
Or we may see the UN, at the urging of both Afghanistan and Pakistan to say, Nato, do not go away mad, just leave the area. You Nato A holes are not part of any solution, you are the problem.
In MHO, the Gates stated policy may be no smarter than the already failed GWB policies, but facts are facts and this link may be the last word for now.
Only time will tell if Obama and Petraeus learn a damn thing, but I have to be somewhat optimistic that they will.
Or we may see the UN, at the urging of both Afghanistan and Pakistan to say, Nato, do not go away mad, just leave the area. You Nato A holes are not part of any solution, you are the problem.
What about now? Has it been long enough? Does this substantiate it?
:thumbsup: Obama.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...p_on_re_as/as_pakistan
Lemon law
Lifer
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One of the big reasons that Nato occupation is failing in Afghanistan is due to lack of troops. Afghanistan with a population of 31 million basically requires 600,000 troops to run a respectable occupation.
What many fail to realize is that these predator strikes inside of Pakistan have an incredible destabilizing effect on the Pakistani government, something that The Green Bean has the courtesy to remind of us of. And if we manage to cause the government of Pakistan to fall, its then going to basically take a army of 3.6 million Nato troops to run any kind of occupation of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
And failing those 3.6 million troops, the whole damn region is going to become a terrorist playground for decades or centuries.
But then again, the delusions of grandeur military types, always think in terms of a bigger hammer, as they seek to widen every war. Did it work in Vietnam?
Get a clue, it will not work in Afghanistan either in case we fail to notice our seven plus year track record of continuous dis improvement.
What many fail to realize is that these predator strikes inside of Pakistan have an incredible destabilizing effect on the Pakistani government, something that The Green Bean has the courtesy to remind of us of. And if we manage to cause the government of Pakistan to fall, its then going to basically take a army of 3.6 million Nato troops to run any kind of occupation of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
And failing those 3.6 million troops, the whole damn region is going to become a terrorist playground for decades or centuries.
But then again, the delusions of grandeur military types, always think in terms of a bigger hammer, as they seek to widen every war. Did it work in Vietnam?
Get a clue, it will not work in Afghanistan either in case we fail to notice our seven plus year track record of continuous dis improvement.
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