Fired Ambassador to the Ukraine claims she was told to tweet praise of president to save her job

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zinfamous

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But i think if you put two and two together and follow where the trail of "give praise" leads to, you can pretty much figure out Trump directed it of Sondland.

Republicans never try to put two-and-two together unless it's Glen Beck in front of a white board drawing nonsense connections between the Clintons, the evil Jews of the world (the Soros meme, the Rothschilds), the Reptilians and the Knights Templar, etc.

and this is no hyperbole: republicans literally believe that shit to be true.

But plain-spoken mobster Trump blathering publicly about his mobster ways? "LoL! Prove it, libtards!"
 

thilanliyan

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But this says it much better and in greater detail, how the failure to fix the problems or at the very least hold those who created and sustained them personally accountable not just a slap on the wrist is why Trump is president today against all odds.
No disagreement from me.

Repubs are in power right now. What are they doing to fix the problem?
 

hal2kilo

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Hear the same thing from white people when they see minorities burning down their own neighborhoods, defies logic,

but so does trickle down, profits only matter, globalization to benefit the few at the expense of the many, being told all your life get an education, get a job, get a house and raise a family, you know the American Dream, something that many are realizing is a dream because you have to be asleep to believe it,

But this says it much better and in greater detail, how the failure to fix the problems or at the very least hold those who created and sustained them personally accountable not just a slap on the wrist is why Trump is president today against all odds.

It’s Time to Hold American Elites Accountable for Their Abuses

If Democrats want to address simmering middle-class anger, they need to deliver justice.
It's what's destroying democracy throughout the globe. Not communists.
 

rommelrommel

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In a striking reversal, a top diplomat revised his testimony in the House impeachment inquiry of U.S. President Donald Trump to acknowledge he understood that American aid to Ukraine was being withheld until the country promised to investigate corruption.

The three-page update from U.S. Ambassador Gordon Sondland, tucked beneath hundreds of pages of sworn testimony released Tuesday, provides new insight into Trump's push for Ukraine to investigate Democrats and Joe Biden in what the Democrats call a quid pro quo at the centre of the House inquiry.

Specifically, Sondland, the ambassador to the EU, said he now recalls telling a top aide to Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, on the sidelines of a Warsaw meeting with U.S. Vice President Mike Pence, that military aid to the country likely would not resume until Ukraine had provided a public anti-corruption statement, as Trump wanted.

Trump has denied any quid pro quo, but Democrats say that is the singular narrative developing from his July 25 call with Zelensky. In that call, Trump, asked for "a favour," the spark for the impeachment inquiry.

Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the Democratic chairman of the intelligence committee, said the House panels conducting the inquiry are releasing the word-by-word transcripts of the past weeks' closed-door hearings so the American public can decide for themselves.

"This is about more than just one call," Schiff wrote Tuesday in an op-ed in USA Today. "We now know that the call was just one piece of a larger operation to redirect our foreign policy to benefit Donald Trump's personal and political interests, not the national interest."

Pushing back, Trump's Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham issued a statement saying the transcripts "show there is even less evidence for this illegitimate impeachment sham than previously thought."

House investigators released more transcripts Tuesday from Sondland, a wealthy businessman who donated $1 million to Trump's inauguration, and Kurt Volker, the former special envoy to Ukraine, and announced they want to hear from Trump's acting chief of staff, reaching to the highest levels of the White House.

The documents include dozens of pages of text messages as the diplomats tried to navigate the demands of Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal lawyer, who they soon learn is running a back channel U.S. foreign policy on Ukraine.

Sondland testified that he spoke with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo about Giuliani, "and Pompeo rolled his eyes and said: 'Yes, it's something we have to deal with."'

Pressed by investigators, Sondland — who initially said he didn't know that the Ukraine firm Burisma that Trump wanted to investigate was linked to Biden's son, Hunter — also testified that it would be improper for the U.S. to prompt Ukraine to investigate the Biden family. "It doesn't sound good," he said.

In his revised testimony, Sondland says his memory was refreshed by the opening statements of two other key inquiry witnesses: the top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, William Taylor, and Tim Morrison, a European expert at the National Security Council.

Public hearings could begin as soon as next week in the impeachment inquiry that Trump says is illegitimate and Republicans in Congress call a sham.

The release of more transcripts comes as the Trump administration resumes its stonewalling of the inquiry. Two more White House officials, an energy adviser and a budget official, declined to appear Tuesday before investigators, even after one received a subpoena.

Meanwhile, investigators say they want to hear from chief of staff Mick Mulvaney because his news conference last month amounted to "nothing less than a televised confession" of Trump's efforts to have Ukraine investigate Democrats and Biden as the White House was blocking military funding for the Eastern European ally.

Trump says he did nothing wrong, and Mulvaney later walked back his remarks.

The White House has instructed its officials not to comply with the impeachment inquiry being led by House Democrats. It is uncertain if Mulvaney will appear.

Republicans have been unable to deliver a unified argument against the impeachment probe, but one of them, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, said Tuesday he's "pretty sure" how it all will end.

"I don't think there's any question it would not lead to a removal," of Trump from the White House, McConnell said.

Most of those who have testified before the House panel are from the ranks of the State Department, including recalled U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovonavitch, whose testimony was released Monday. Diplomats have testified to the mounting concerns in the State Department over Trump's interest in having a foreign ally investigate Biden.

Volker and Sondland both testified they were disappointed after briefing Trump at the White House upon their return from Zelensky's inauguration in May as a new leader of the young democracy vowing to fight corruption.

That pivotal May 23 meeting raised red flags when Trump told them to work with Rudy Giuliani, his personal attorney, on Ukraine issues.

Trump "went on and on and on about how Ukraine is a disaster and they're bad people," Sondland testified.

Trump holds an alternative view that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that interfered in the 2016 election, a theory counter to U.S. intelligence. "'They tried to take me down.' He kept saying that over and over," Sondland said.

So umm, yeah. Sondland is sure trying to give himself enough wiggle room to avoid being held in contempt.
 

zinfamous

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So umm, yeah. Sondland is sure trying to give himself enough wiggle room to avoid being held in contempt.

lol!

Specifically, Sondland, the ambassador to the EU, said he now recalls telling a top aide to Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, on the sidelines of a Warsaw meeting with U.S. Vice President Mike Pence, that military aid to the country likely would not resume until Ukraine had provided a public anti-corruption statement, as Trump wanted.

Remember when Trump publicly demanded that the press and democrats start asking about Mike Pence and what he said to Ukraine?

LOLOLOLOOLOL

We might get a fiver when sweeping out the scum on this one.
 

TheVrolok

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lol!



Remember when Trump publicly demanded that the press and democrats start asking about Mike Pence and what he said to Ukraine?

LOLOLOLOOLOL

We might get a fiver when sweeping out the scum on this one.
Sondlands revelatory memory is pretty amusing.
 

pcgeek11

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But i think if you put two and two together and follow where the trail of "give praise" leads to, you can pretty much figure out Trump directed it of Sondland.

You don't know that. That is a guess or assumption on your part. It was stupid advice even if it would have probably been effective with Trumps personality.

Frankly I'm embarrassed for this country over shit like this. Too bad you think it makes us look strong. (Yes I'm assuming based on your dogged defense of the orange crook)

Yes I agree that you are assuming as usual.

You are also misinterpreting me when I point out the obvious such as making this sound like Trump directed her to tweet when in fact it was Mr. Sondland. Instead you guys assume to make it fit your narrative.
 

brycejones

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You don't know that. That is a guess or assumption on your part. It was stupid advice even if it would have probably been effective with Trumps personality.



Yes I agree that you are assuming as usual.

You are also misinterpreting me when I point out the obvious such as making this sound like Trump directed her to tweet when in fact it was Mr. Sondland. Instead you guys assume to make it fit your narrative.

In other words unlike Truman, the buck never stops at Trump.
 

HomerJS

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You don't know that. That is a guess or assumption on your part. It was stupid advice even if it would have probably been effective with Trumps personality.



Yes I agree that you are assuming as usual.

You are also misinterpreting me when I point out the obvious such as making this sound like Trump directed her to tweet when in fact it was Mr. Sondland. Instead you guys assume to make it fit your narrative.
Absent that Sondland would have been acting on his own. Use that brain of your's and answer that question.

Do you also think Rudy was acting on his own?
 

pcgeek11

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I find Mr. Sondland's mysterious memory lapses disturbing.

Sound like he is making sh!t up as it goes along.
 

pcgeek11

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Absent that Sondland would have been acting on his own. Use that brain of your's and answer that question.

Do you also think Rudy was acting on his own?


I don't see any reason that he wouldn't give her advice on his own accord...

Rudy? Who knows he is pretty much a nut job anyway...
 

zzyzxroad

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I find Mr. Sondland's mysterious memory lapses disturbing.

Sound like he is making sh!t up as it goes along.

Seems clear no? He forgot this part to help trump but wasn't willing to risk perjury charges so updated his testimony.
 

woolfe9998

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But i think if you put two and two together and follow where the trail of "give praise" leads to, you can pretty much figure out Trump directed it of Sondland.

This is the guy who once demanded that his entire cabinet stand up and praise him. Yeah, Sondland came up with that on his own. LOL
 

Maxima1

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A constantly evolving story is usually flawed or false.

The "remembering" part is obviously bullshit. He knew all along but is trying to protect himself by revising his previous statements while not giving away that he lied. Now knowing this, why would you think he's making stuff up after "remembering" when the point is to steer clear of legal trouble?
 

pcgeek11

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The "remembering" part is obviously bullshit. He knew all along but is trying to protect himself by revising his previous statements while not giving away that he lied. Now knowing this, why would you think he's making stuff up after "remembering" when the point is to steer clear of legal trouble?


Well we could suppose and guess.... To no good end.