Fired Ambassador to the Ukraine claims she was told to tweet praise of president to save her job

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1prophet

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I know...I still don't understand what that 40% expects to gain long term.
Hear the same thing from white people when they see minorities burning down their own neighborhoods, defies logic,

but so does trickle down, profits only matter, globalization to benefit the few at the expense of the many, being told all your life get an education, get a job, get a house and raise a family, you know the American Dream, something that many are realizing is a dream because you have to be asleep to believe it,

But this says it much better and in greater detail, how the failure to fix the problems or at the very least hold those who created and sustained them personally accountable not just a slap on the wrist is why Trump is president today against all odds.

It’s Time to Hold American Elites Accountable for Their Abuses

If Democrats want to address simmering middle-class anger, they need to deliver justice.

As the White House chief of staff, I argued, unsuccessfully, that the American people needed the catharsis of seeing that the bankers who had gotten the country into this mess were being forced to take responsibility—that faith in government would plummet if we failed to deliver some “Old Testament justice.” Others feared that attacking Wall Street would undermine the recovery, and they won the day. Perhaps they were right on the economics. But the political implications were significant, and we’re still living with them today. The middle class believes even now that elites have license to make irresponsible decisions without paying a price.

No matter how noxious he was personally—and despite the irony that he was a perfect example of elite privilege—Trump embodied the country’s desire to hit back. Justice was a long time coming.



 

Jhhnn

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Trump tweets out for the GOP to come up with alternative transcripts of the witnesses. Because Schiff will have them altered. I shit you not.


So when the transcripts the GOP has been screaming for are made public, they'll already be labeled as fake. And when the witnesses affirm the veracity of the transcripts in public hearings, that'll be fake, too.
 

brycejones

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Hear the same thing from white people when they see minorities burning down their own neighborhoods, defies logic,

but so does trickle down, profits only matter, globalization to benefit the few at the expense of the many, being told all your life get an education, get a job, get a house and raise a family, you know the American Dream, something that many are realizing is a dream because you have to be asleep to believe it,

But this says it much better and in greater detail, how the failure to fix the problems or at the very least hold those who created and sustained them personally accountable not just a slap on the wrist is why Trump is president today against all odds.

It’s Time to Hold American Elites Accountable for Their Abuses

If Democrats want to address simmering middle-class anger, they need to deliver justice.

Its always why don't the Dems keep the GOP from doing bad shit. Can you for once hold the GOP accountable for their actions?
 

brycejones

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Trump tweets out for the GOP to come up with alternative transcripts of the witnesses. Because Schiff will have them altered. I shit you not.


So when the transcripts the GOP has been screaming for are made public, they'll already be labeled as fake. And when the witnesses affirm the veracity of the transcripts in public hearings, that'll be fake, too.

Trump has told his "followers" that only he can be trusted and to ignore anything he doesn't say. This is why he did that early on.
 

Jhhnn

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Its always why don't the Dems keep the GOP from doing bad shit. Can you for once hold the GOP accountable for their actions?

From his linked article-

Every time Democrats look at a problem, they think of a program. And while those programs often point the way forward, Democrats need to focus their energy on convincing the middle class that they share their values more than just their economic interests. There is more to voters than their wallets. To do that, Democrats need to prove to them that they know the difference between right and wrong, and that begins with owning the terms accountability and responsibility. Democrats need to be the ones demanding that those who fall short, no matter how privileged, be made to answer for their own decisions. Every one of us should have to live by the same moral and ethical codes. The nation’s elite shouldn’t have any special license to take the easy way out.

He apparently failed to notice that's exactly what Dems are doing with Trump.
 
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Jhhnn

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So the man who has altered transcripts is alleging others will alter transcripts? Not surprised.

As if the people who were interviewed wouldn't object to an inaccurate transcription of their words. It's an absurd proposition that only the truly gullible would fall for.

OTOH, Trump as President is an absurd proposition yet here we are...
 

HomerJS

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I think what was said was that Mr Sondland gave her the advice. Trump didn't ask her to tweet it.
Are you absolving Trump from creating such a climate that Sonland would advise her to do this? Is that how a State Department should be run? Even the Ukraine's warned her to "watch her back" and Rudy and his people would "do things" to her.

Trump bears no responsibility??
 
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brycejones

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Are you absolving Trump from creating such a climate that Sonland would advise her to do this? Is that how a State Department should be run? Even the Ukraine's warned her to "watch her back" and Rudy and his people would "do things" to her.

Trump bears no responsibility??

Trumpy didn't tell her directly so it doesn't count! But that isn't what he really said because reasons and secrets.
 
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pcgeek11

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Are you absolving Trump from creating such a climate that Sonland would advise her to do this? Is that how a State Department should be run? Even the Ukraine's warned her to "watch her back" and Rudy and his people would "do things" to her.

Trump bears no responsibility??


I was reading the link after reading the posts and the post made out as if the President had made it a stipulation of her continued employment that she publicly tweet his praise. Which turned out to be incorrect Mr Sondland gave her advice of his own accord.

Trump doesn't bear any responsibility for advice given by someone else unless he directed the advice. Did he? The article did not indicate it.

I don't have the power to absolve anyone of anything.
 

Jhhnn

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I was reading the link after reading the posts and the post made out as if the President had made it a stipulation of her continued employment that she publicly tweet his praise. Which turned out to be incorrect Mr Sondland gave her advice of his own accord.

Trump doesn't bear any responsibility for advice given by someone else unless he directed the advice. Did he? The article did not indicate it.

I don't have the power to absolve anyone of anything.

It wasn't really very good advice. Sondland should have just told her she needed to play Giuliani's game & everything would be fine.
 

rommelrommel

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I was reading the link after reading the posts and the post made out as if the President had made it a stipulation of her continued employment that she publicly tweet his praise. Which turned out to be incorrect Mr Sondland gave her advice of his own accord.

Trump doesn't bear any responsibility for advice given by someone else unless he directed the advice. Did he? The article did not indicate it.

I don't have the power to absolve anyone of anything.

This is how mobster bosses insulate themselves.
 

sportage

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Folks.... YOU AINT SEEN NOTHIN YET!!!!

Just wait until Trump is re-elected in 2020 and then demands EVERY AMERICAN prove their undying loyalty to Trump an to his administration.
Or.....
Trump will instruct Satan to release the flying monkey demons from hell to devour the earth.
Democrats pray that Donald Trump will not be re-elected.
Republicans hope Donald Trump will be.
Satan is counting on it.....
 
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Bitek

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This is how mobster bosses insulate themselves.

Exactly. Conservatives would be arguing they never saw Al Capone pull any triggers.

It's clearly part of the culture. How many senators and congressmen do we have leaking how much they detest Trump and his actions, but won't confront him publicly out of fear.

Look what he does to former officials if they speak out.

At this point, we should assume everything GOP pols say are lies and cya
 

brycejones

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I was reading the link after reading the posts and the post made out as if the President had made it a stipulation of her continued employment that she publicly tweet his praise. Which turned out to be incorrect Mr Sondland gave her advice of his own accord.

Trump doesn't bear any responsibility for advice given by someone else unless he directed the advice. Did he? The article did not indicate it.

I don't have the power to absolve anyone of anything.

When does Trump become responsible for the culture he has created in his administration?
 
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I think what was said was that Mr Sondland gave her the advice. Trump didn't ask her to tweet it.

But i think if you put two and two together and follow where the trail of "give praise" leads to, you can pretty much figure out Trump directed it of Sondland.
 

HomerJS

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I think what was said was that Mr Sondland gave her the advice. Trump didn't ask her to tweet it.
Frankly I'm embarrassed for this country over shit like this. Too bad you think it makes us look strong. (Yes I'm assuming based on your dogged defense of the orange crook)
 

dank69

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Hear the same thing from white people when they see minorities burning down their own neighborhoods, defies logic,

but so does trickle down, profits only matter, globalization to benefit the few at the expense of the many, being told all your life get an education, get a job, get a house and raise a family, you know the American Dream, something that many are realizing is a dream because you have to be asleep to believe it,

But this says it much better and in greater detail, how the failure to fix the problems or at the very least hold those who created and sustained them personally accountable not just a slap on the wrist is why Trump is president today against all odds.

It’s Time to Hold American Elites Accountable for Their Abuses

If Democrats want to address simmering middle-class anger, they need to deliver justice.







Why is it Democrats' responsibility to hold them accountable? They are busy just trying to hold them at bay. People like you blame Deomcrats for not doing enough which just enables the GOP to sell us all out to them even faster. Good plan.
 

zinfamous

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Trump tweets out for the GOP to come up with alternative transcripts of the witnesses. Because Schiff will have them altered. I shit you not.


So when the transcripts the GOP has been screaming for are made public, they'll already be labeled as fake. And when the witnesses affirm the veracity of the transcripts in public hearings, that'll be fake, too.

exactly. Truth is not Truth. Only I know what is correct. Trumptards swallow this shit like gruel. (...I hope they get used to gruel)
 

Puffnstuff

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Dear leader's fragile ego depends on a$$ kissing so shore up on your praise and worship skills that are demonstrated every week at your local church.