Finally... More Young Americans Who 'Believe' in Evolution Than Creationism

[AMDisTheBEST]

Life as we know it can not exist without Proteins. That's why they are called Precursors of Life. So, they are not just special, they are necessary.

A problem with new Life forming is that the precursor organic molecules necessary can not form in an Oxygen atmosphere. Early Earth did not have this problem, but that problem exists today. Even if that wasn't an issue, any new Life forms would start out microscopically and would need millions of years to evolve before you could see it with the naked eye, if it could avoid just becoming food for the Life forms already existing.

What are you talking about? Plenty of life today does not need oxygen for metabolism. Aka, plants. They soak in carbon dioxide and spew out oxygen as byproducts. What conditions today are you talking about? Many deep sea volcanic vents have conditions similar to early Earth. Has any researchers ever discover something like protocells forming in these conditions? Have we ever see signs of life arising out of not life?

Water is also essential to life, can you please show me if your bottle of water will come to life on its own?

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

They were stupid or ignorant then.

"Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations."

You disagree with that?

I do not disagree that life undergones changes to adapt to its environment, just not BS that life arose out of nonliving materials like many evolunists like to rant about. This is nonsense.

 

[WelshBloke]

I do not disagree that life undergones changes to adapt to its environment, just not BS that life arose out of nonliving materials like many evolunists like to rant about. This is nonsense.

So youre agreeing with evolution and disagreeing about something that isnt evolution?

Evolution doesn't talk about the origin of life

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

So youre agreeing with evolution and disagreeing about something that isnt evolution?

Evolution doesn't talk about the origin of life

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/origsoflife_01
What do you think the word “evolutionary” biology is?

 

[WelshBloke]

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/origsoflife_01
What do you think the word “evolutionary” biology is?

Go on then explain how evolutionary theory describes the origin of life.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Go on then explain how evolutionary theory describes the origin of life.

Life arising out of not life. Pure and simple and ridiculous

 

[WelshBloke]

Life arising out of not life. Pure and simple and ridiculous

You appear to be making up your own definition of evolution just so you can disagree with it.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

You appear to be making up your own definition of evolution just so you can disagree with it.

Define evolutionary biology then because I can tell you are obviously an expert.

 

[WelshBloke]

Define evolutionary biology then because I can tell you are obviously an expert.

I've already given you the definition of evolution.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

I've already given you the definition of evolution.

Like the first life “evolved” from not life? Go on, tell me your amazing theory where first life come from

 

[WelshBloke]

Like the first life “evolved” from not life? Go on, tell me your amazing theory where first life come from

Again you seem to be making up your own theories.
Evolution describes what's happens when there is life that can pass information down the generations, it doesn't describe where life came from.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Again you seem to be making up your own theories.
Evolution describes what's happens when there is life that can pass information down the generations, it doesn't describe where life came from.

Really? Wha-...
Alright, i’ll play along. I disagree because where did the very first generation inherited its traits from? You better answer my question to where the first life come from otherwise you have a huge hole in the theory

 

[WelshBloke]

Really? Wha-...
Alright, i’ll play along. I disagree because where did the very first generation inherited its traits first? You better answer my question to where the first life come from other wise you have a huge hole in the theory

I shall say this very slowly as I appear to be repeating myself and its obviously not getting through.

The. Theory. Of. Evolution. Does. Not. State. Where. Life. Originated. From. And. Does. Not. Try. To. Explain. That.

That is a separate subject. The thing that you want to argue about is Abiogenesis, which is a pretty interesting subject.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

I shall say this very slowly as I appear to be repeating myself and its obviously not getting through.

The. Theory. Of. Evolution. Does. Not. State. Where. Life. Originated. From. And. Does. Not. Try. To. Explain. That.

That is a separate subject. The thing that you want to argue about is Abiogenesis, which is a pretty interesting subject.

Abiogenesis is nothing more than modern day form of spontaneous generation, a theory ridicule by all biologists.

Tell me, where does the first life inherit its traits from? If evolution is based off the assumption that new species arose from inheriting multiple of beneficial traits from a previously mutated population, you gotta tell me where the previous population, it’s previous population, all the way to the very first population inherited its traits from. If you can’t answer that, the theory holds little water and can easily be dismissed.

 

[WelshBloke]

Abiogenesis is nothing more than modern day form of spontaneous generation, a theory ridicule by all biologists.

Lol no.

Tell me, where does the first life inherit its traits from? If evolution is based off the assumption that new species arose from inheriting multiple of beneficial traits from a mutated population, you gotta tell me where the previous population, previous population, all the way to the very first population inherited its traits from. If you can’t answer that, the theory holds little water and can easily be dismissed.

What? Evolution is describing a process that's occurs when life exists. Your asking it to describe a process before the process had started.

It's pretty obvious that you don't understand the definitions of the things that you are arguing about. It's fine to disable with something, just try to disagree with the right thing for the right reasons.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Lol no.

What? Evolution is describing a process that's occurs when life exists. Your asking it to describe a process before the process had started.

It's pretty obvious that you don't understand the definitions of the things that you are arguing about. It's fine to disable with something, just try to disagree with the right thing for the right reasons.

Dude, origin of life and evolution is not separate issues.
http://gregladen.com/blog/2011/06/28/is-the-origin-of-life-differen/

You can’t just dodged around a ridiculous theory by asserting it does not dwell into its most ridiculous aspects.

Where the hell does life comes from? Abiogenesis is life from not life. Spontaneous generation is life from not life.
https://socratic.org/questions/what-are-abiogenesis-and-spontaneous-generation
Tell me the difference pls. I know you are the expert here so please enlighten me with your anwesome myriads of facts instead of a “lol” and a “no” which I assume means you disagree but it’s hard to tell because you said nothing else. What a cogent rebuttal.

Edit: Typos fix

 

[WelshBloke]

Dude, origin of life and evolution is not separate issues.
http://gregladen.com/blog/2011/06/28/is-the-origin-of-life-differen/

You can’t just dodged around a ridiculous theory by asserting it does not dwell into its most ridiculous aspects.

WTF. Did you just link to a random blog to redefine an already well defined theory?

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

WTF. Did you just link to a random blog to redefine an already well defined theory?

Read the blog, I won't bother explain to you why it’s not a separate issue when I already cited a good source.

Also, you are just doing your argument a disfavored by shamelessly refusing to acknowledge and answer a problem that you find inconvenient.

 

[WelshBloke]

Read the blog, I won't bother explain to you why it’s not a separate issue when I already cited a good source.

Thats not a good source, its some random opinion.

Also, you are just doing your argument a disfavored by shamelessly refusing to acknowledge and answer a problem that you find inconvenient.

My argument about evolution has nothing to do with abiogenesis thats why.

 

[IronWing]

Thats not a good source, its some random opinion.


My argument about evolution has nothing to do with abiogenesis thats why.

You have set a mighty task before you. Good luck and God bless.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

You are very myopic. Describe why these processes happen in a particular why. Why do all of these spin? God could have made a completely different universe beyond your meager understanding.

Because science. If you don't understand gravity clumping things together and angular momentum giving them spin you're too stupid to explain things to any farther than that, so...

 

[pcgeek11]

I don't believe what I believe. I know what I know.

see how that works? No?

OK.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The irony is that Conner says that we cant understand the mind of god, while he claims to understand the mind of god. such haughtiness was forbidden in the bible.

 

[John Connor]

Because science. If you don't understand gravity clumping things together and angular momentum giving them spin you're too stupid to explain things to any farther than that, so...

You still don't get the point.

 

[lxskllr]

The irony is that Conner says that we cant understand the mind of god, while he claims to understand the mind of god. such haughtiness was forbidden in the bible.

A natural born huckster preacher.