Finally... More Young Americans Who 'Believe' in Evolution Than Creationism

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zinfamous

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There are more than opinions. For example, China's new Dark Matter satellite just compiled 18 months of data a few weeks ago and concluded that there is virtually no difference in the properties of matter and anti-matter. Both types of particles should have been generated equally during the Big Bang, yet we're surrounded by matter today. Where did the anti-matter go? By all rights, nothing should exist.

that's great.

wtf does physics have to do with evolution? Hey, super smart physics man: us biologists need to start hanging out more with you physics guys, seriously, because a lot of you don't really work with biostats, eco, and evolutionary math. I mean, it's all science and everything works amongst all of us, but it's weird how so many physicists are prone to not "get" how this works, or what it actually argues. You know what I mean? ;)

When you see the creationists waving their "books of knowledge," they are always written by some physics or astronomy hobbiest or PhD. someone that, well, really doesn't give a shit about biology. lol.
 

zinfamous

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OK, I'll change that to things that were accepted as facts are then proven as false later.

Look this goes nowhere as you atheist are not going to accept anything short of God popping up on your lawn and showing you.

I believe what I believe and so do you...

I don't believe what I believe. I know what I know.

see how that works? No?
 

zinfamous

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No, God likes balance and harmony. Precision and equilibrium.

Bullshit. God likes tentacles and giant phalluses, like barnacle dicks.

This is why the world is filled with tentacles and dicks that are 400% larger than the organism commanding them (like barnacles). Try to call that balance and order.

I know my god. Do you?
 
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AMDisTheBEST

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Darwin married his first cousin and fathered several genetic close inbreeds.

Early proponents of the theory of evolution are all nazi eurgenists who wished to wiped out the weak, retarded, and the mentally insane, believing natural selection would doomed them to extinction anyway.

What’s the morale of the story here? Don’t be evolutionists or I will believe you are an inbreed mutant or a psychopathic nazi.
 

John Connor

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Yes you can, if you can understand the forces that operate on them. Of course that leaves you out.


You are very myopic. Describe why these processes happen in a particular why. Why do all of these spin? God could have made a completely different universe beyond your meager understanding.
 

AMDisTheBEST

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that's great.

wtf does physics have to do with evolution? Hey, super smart physics man: us biologists need to start hanging out more with you physics guys, seriously, because a lot of you don't really work with biostats, eco, and evolutionary math. I mean, it's all science and everything works amongst all of us, but it's weird how so many physicists are prone to not "get" how this works, or what it actually argues. You know what I mean? ;)

When you see the creationists waving their "books of knowledge," they are always written by some physics or astronomy hobbiest or PhD. someone that, well, really doesn't give a shit about biology. lol.


Evolution is just biology, biology is organic chemistry, organic chemistry is the interaction of atoms, atoms is the interaction of fundamental forces and elementary particle which are just physics.
 

sandorski

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Darwin married his first cousin and fathered several genetic close inbreeds.

Early proponents of the theory of evolution are all nazi eurgenists who wished to wiped out the weak, retarded, and the mentally insane, believing natural selection would doomed them to extinction anyway.

What’s the morale of the story here? Don’t be evolutionists or I will believe you are an inbreed mutant or a psychopathic nazi.

BS. A few Evolution supporters promoted Eugenics, but Darwin himself rejected it. Nazi Eugenicists didn't exist until nearly 50 years after that movement had begun.

Regardless of all this, Evolution is a fact. If you believe people accepting Evolution as fact are Nazis, that's just your stupid opinion.
 

AMDisTheBEST

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BS. A few Evolution supporters promoted Eugenics, but Darwin himself rejected it. Nazi Eugenicists didn't exist until nearly 50 years after that movement had begun.

Regardless of all this, Evolution is a fact. If you believe people accepting Evolution as fact are Nazis, that's just your stupid opinion.

Yo, life can only be borne from existing life. From known time, scientists never had witnesses life arose naturally from inorganic substances. Please tell me how the first life form came into being? There can only be some higher being seeding life.

Edit: nazi eugenicists get their inspiration from American eurgencists who are early subscribers of Darwinism.
 
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sandorski

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Yo, life can only be borne from existing life. From known time, scientists never had witnesses life arose naturally from inorganic substances. Please tell me how the first life form came into being? There can only be some higher being seeding life.

Abiogenesis, look into it. What you said is not a rebuttal of Evolution. Your last assertion is completely unsupported by any Evidence.
 

John Connor

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Yo, life can only be borne from existing life. From known time, scientists never had witnesses life arose naturally from inorganic substances. Please tell me how the first life form came into being? There can only be some higher being seeding life.

Edit: nazi eugenicists get their inspiration from American eurgencists who are early subscribers of Darwinism.


Apparently, lightning.
 

AMDisTheBEST

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Abiogenesis, look into it. What you said is not a rebuttal of Evolution. Your last assertion is completely unsupported by any Evidence.
Abiogenesis is a fantasy. No one has ever observed such occurrence in real life. Name me one real life instance in which anyone has ever witnessed life arose out of none living materials. Go on, I am waiting.

Pretty sure it is impossible otherwise you would see your table, chair, and walls coming to life which is ridiculous.
 

AMDisTheBEST

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Apparently, lightning.
We have plenty of lighting today, why isn’t life raining from the sky? Lol.

I only see life born from already existing life. This is a confirmed fact of biology. Just accept it, life can only be created and arose out of existing life. None living materials can’t just one day come to life arbitrarily.
 

John Connor

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We have plenty of lighting today, why isn’t life raining from the sky? Lol.

I only see life born from already existing life. This is a confirmed fact of biology. Just accept it, life can only be created and arise out of existing life. None living materials can’t just one day come to life arbitrarily.


Yeah. It was a blob of bullshit and lightning hit it creating the first organism.

It's been a long time since I read about all this crap.
 

sandorski

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Abiogenesis is a fantasy. No one has ever observed such occurrence in real life. Name me one real life instance in which anyone has ever witnessed life arose out of none living materials. Go on, I am waiting.

Pretty sure it is impossible otherwise you would see your table, chair, and walls coming to life which is ridiculous.

Most of the proteins and precursors of Life have been formed in the Lab using Natural means under conditions thought to mirror early Earth conditions. Some of the Proteins have even been found in meteorites, showing that they can form in Space itself. Abiogenesis is far from "fantasy", it has Evidential support.
 

AMDisTheBEST

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Yeah. It was a blob of bullshit and lightning hit it creating the first organism.

It's been a long time since I read about all this crap.

Yep, exactly, glad you see my point. It’s sad that modern schools are teaching and brainwashing the children with these craps. At least the books should say it is just a theory and not an absolute fact.
 

AMDisTheBEST

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Most of the proteins and precursors of Life have been formed in the Lab using Natural means under conditions thought to mirror early Earth conditions. Some of the Proteins have even been found in meteorites, showing that they can form in Space itself. Abiogenesis is far from "fantasy", it has Evidential support.
Protein ain’t life. It is organic substance yes but anything carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen based is organic chemistry, heck that is all there is to the word organic. It is just a long complex compounds made up of bunch of carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen atoms. There is nothing special about them. Pretty sure you can spot them naturally occurring in places like upper atomosphere of planet Jupiter.

Today, earth is in a better condition than ever to support life. Why isn’t life arising out of none living substances today? Why the hell do you need to go back to 3 billion + years ago when earth was bombarded by meteors and a hellish toxic environment to search for sign of Abiogenesis?

That is just ridiculous.
 

sandorski

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Yep, exactly, glad you see my point. It’s sad that modern schools are teaching and brainwashing the children with these craps. At least the books should say it is just a theory and not an absolute fact.

Scientific theories are Facts. You must have missed School.
 

AMDisTheBEST

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Scientific theories are Facts. You must have missed School.

Early Greek philosophers used to think heavier object fall faster than lighter object to be a scientific fact lol.

Look, Albert Einstein’s is a religious Jew and early astronomers and scientific thinkers all happened to be religious monks or priests. Science does not rule out creationism.

My physics and chemistry professors are all religious believers and they rejected evolution theory.

But I am pretty sure you are stubborn and believe you have everything all figured out don’t you?
 

sandorski

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Protein ain’t life. It is organic substance yes but anything carbon based chemistry is organic, heck that is there is to word organic. It is just a long complex compounds made of bunch of carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen atoms. There is nothing special about them. Pretty sure you can spot them naturally occurring in placers like upper atomosphere of planet Jupiter.

Today, earth is in a better condition than ever to support life. Why isn’t life arising out of none living substances today? Why the hell do you need to go back to 3 billion + years ago when earth was bombarded by meteors and a hellish toxic environment to search for sign of Abiogenesis?

That is just ridiculous.

Life as we know it can not exist without Proteins. That's why they are called Precursors of Life. So, they are not just special, they are necessary.

A problem with new Life forming is that the precursor organic molecules necessary can not form in an Oxygen atmosphere. Early Earth did not have this problem, but that problem exists today. Even if that wasn't an issue, any new Life forms would start out microscopically and would need millions of years to evolve before you could see it with the naked eye, if it could avoid just becoming food for the Life forms already existing.
 

sandorski

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Early Greek philosophers used to think heavier object fall faster than lighter object to be a scientific fact lol.

Look, Albert Einstein’s is a religious Jew and early astronomers and scientific thinkers all happened to be religious monks or priests. Science does not rule out creationism.

My physics and chemistry professors are all religious believers and they rejected evolution theory.

But I am pretty sure you are stubborn and believe you have everything all figured out don’t you?

The evidence that supports Evolution is overwhelming. I'm sorry that you have been mislead on the subject.
 

WelshBloke

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My physics and chemistry professors are all religious believers and they rejected evolution theory.

They were stupid or ignorant then.

"Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations."

You disagree with that?