Finally got a Glock 17.

[JeffreyLebowski]

Anecdotal IMO. If you had to go into the Thunderdome of gunfights, and on your way in you were presented with a Ruger P90, a Beretta 92, a Glock 17, a Sig 226, and an H&K USP, which one would you take? Having no prior experience with those specific, individual guns, I'd prefer to bet my life on one of the European brands known for quality, rather than an American brand known for "value."

What does it matter where the brand is from? Beretta, Sig, HK and Ruger and Glock all either make their guns 100% in america or assemble them here from parts from else where.
Stop being gun snob that doesn't know enough to be a snob.
I'll take my Smith and Wesson 1911PD or ATI Beretta 92 Centurion clone any day over a Glock.

Glocks aren't as popular as they are because they are the best gun. They are as popular as they are because they are inexpensive yet reliable.
I've had several glocks and never had any mechanical issues with them. I don't like the triggers and the grip is at an odd angle.
Ruger firearms are very dependable and tough. A Ruger revolver or P series semi auto will outlive you or I? My Security Six is older than I am and still going stong. No play in the cylinder, good lockup and dead accurate.


To add. It's funny how people keep crapping on other brands and hold Glock up to some mythical status, but fail to mention that Glock had teething problems with the .40SW based guns because they don't use a fully supported chamber. Does Glock Ka-Boom ring a bell?
I don't trust any gun out of the box. I trust a gun after taking it to the range and putting a bunch of rounds through it and it not giving me problems.
CZ turned me off to their products with the CZ-40p. That thing jammed every other shot. One of the night site inserts fell out on thr 1st shot i took with the gun.

Different guns for different people.
The only rugers that have had problems are the little micro guns they put out. But to bad mouth Ruger as making junk guns is about as foolish as saying Intel sucks because of the Pentium 4.

 

[shortylickens]

For reference: This isnt my first Glock.

Over the past year I've been renting just about every model from my local gun range and even though those things are beat to hell, they ALWAYS work reliably. More so than my brand new Ruger or Sig even after a good break-in period of 1000 rounds each.
I didnt get it for showing off, I got it cuz its a well made weapon I could trust my life to.

For showing off I will get a custom Kimber or something along those lines. Actually a Luger would be a better conversation piece.

 

[Codewiz]

Yes, really. Its called an "opinion", maybe you should get one instead of just following the herd.

I can say I do not like a glock, just like I can say I do not like GM/Chevy, Ford or Dodge and I do not like onions on my cheeseburger - unless the onions are cooked.

To each their own.

See here is the problem. You didn't say you just don't prefer or like glocks. You said you don't buy into the hype. There is a difference......

 

[DivideBYZero]

LOL. guns.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

I'm going with the Springfield XD-40. Should have it next week.

 

[nick1985]

I'm going with the Springfield XD-40. Should have it next week.

I have one. Awesome gun. :thumbsup:

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

I have one. Awesome gun. :thumbsup:

Yeah my brother has one and I fired it at the range with him a couple weeks ago and decided I needed one right then and there. It is like they took the best parts of several guns and incorporated them all.

 

[Nebor]

yes a brick with a barrel attached to it will solve most people complaints about the glock grip feel D:

I love my H&Ks. Extremely reliable and rugged. And I like the feel of them better than Glocks. Good luck trading a Glock for an H&K though, there's a bit of a price difference. 😀

 

[ViviTheMage]

Shit, if short is carrying, I better get one to defend myself from him...

I love the XDM 9mm

 

[Nebor]

What does it matter where the brand is from? Beretta, Sig, HK and Ruger and Glock all either make their guns 100% in america or assemble them here from parts from else where.
Stop being gun snob that doesn't know enough to be a snob.

Shit, you're right, I'm a total gun noob. :'(

Guns, cars and watches designed in Europe are better designed, engineered and manufactured even if the final assembly takes place in the US. The parts are all sourced from Europe anyway.

I don't understand bringing revolvers into the discussion. It's pretty hard to fuck up a revolver. Also, revolvers are silly. I have one, an original Colt Python in .357 mag. It's a safe queen.

 

[Josh123]

I love my H&Ks. Extremely reliable and rugged. And I like the feel of them better than Glocks. Good luck trading a Glock for an H&K though, there's a bit of a price difference. 😀

Mine was used by a cop so I got a good price on it ($550). It's still in great shape and came with night sites.

 

[Farmer]

Also, revolvers are silly. I have one, an original Colt Python in .357 mag. It's a safe queen.

Maybe you should go shoot it. It would then stop being a safe queen.

 

[Nebor]

Maybe you should go shoot it. It would then stop being a safe queen.

I hate revolvers. They make me feel like an old man. Like I should have driven to the range in a model T or something.

I feel sorry that I got caught up in the premium 1911 craze of the past decade. I've had a Colt Gold Cup 1911 for years and years, but somehow I thought the "premium" Kimbers and Wilsons would change my mind. $6000 later... not so much. Guns are technology, and technology should be new. 😛

 

[JJ650]

Yes, really. Its called an "opinion", maybe you should get one instead of just following the herd.

I can say I do not like a glock, just like I can say I do not like GM/Chevy, Ford or Dodge and I do not like onions on my cheeseburger - unless the onions are cooked.

To each their own.

Who said I was following the herd?
Don't blame you on the Glock, but a Ruger? Ew. Never found their quality to be impressive.

 

[JJ650]

Stupid double post

 

[HOOfan 1]

Actually revolvers are mechanically more complex than autos. The majority of autos today are based largely on designs by John Moses Browning....from Utah, USA.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Not liking Glock for ergo's is one thing (although Glocks are very easy to get aftermarket stuff to help with that), but saying that you prefer a Ruger over one for SD/CCW use is idiotic IMO.

If I get a firearm for SD/CCW, then I want something that will fire EVERY time. I don't see Ruger having that reliability I'm looking for.

 

[Nebor]

Actually revolvers are mechanically more complex than autos. The majority of autos today are based largely on designs by John Moses Browning....from Utah, USA.

That's like saying a dot matrix printer is mechanically more complex than a modern laser jet.

 

[Zargon]

You should trade it in for a H&K USP .40.

I love my H&Ks. Extremely reliable and rugged. And I like the feel of them better than Glocks. Good luck trading a Glock for an H&K though, there's a bit of a price difference. 😀

used USP's arent that expensive

and they are notorious for being rather fat gripped, go read ar15.com

I've held one, its the of xbox controller of the gun world. I have medium sized hands(IE I wear medium sized gloves comfortable, large in those that run smaller) and have issues with finger coverage for a good 2 handed grip.


I could NEVER one hand one and dream of accuracy in the least. I never said they werent rugged or reliable, just that they have a brick for a grip.

which is way better than actually being a brick, like hi points 😀

I would love a P7, I shot a friends and was sad when he sold it, it was great.

I also wouldnt never go from 9 to 40, talk about increasing the cost of ownership. shooting 40SW costs waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much!

 

[Zargon]

Mine was used by a cop so I got a good price on it ($550). It's still in great shape and came with night sites.

damn. my local police outfitter sells their used duty guns for about 400 😱

 

[Nebor]

used USP's arent that expensive

and they are notorious for being rather fat gripped, go read ar15.com

I've held one, its the of xbox controller of the gun world. I have medium sized hands(IE I wear medium sized gloves comfortable, large in those that run smaller) and have issues with finger coverage for a good 2 handed grip.


I could NEVER one hand one and dream of accuracy in the least. I never said they werent rugged or reliable, just that they have a brick for a grip.

which is way better than actually being a brick, like hi points 😀

I would love a P7, I shot a friends and was sad when he sold it, it was great.

I also wouldnt never go from 9 to 40, talk about increasing the cost of ownership. shooting 40SW costs waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much!

I have large hands. I've never thought that a grip on a handgun was too big. I can understand how that would be a problem when it comes to manipulating the magazine release and for general comfort\control reasons.

I almost exclusively carry an H&K USP Compact in .357 Sig these days.

 

[HOOfan 1]

That's like saying a dot matrix printer is mechanically more complex than a modern laser jet.

There are plenty of items from the past that would be cost prohibitive to make today. Newer does not always equal easier to make.

Automatics do not have to worry about cylinder timing.

Is it more likely that a revolver will not be picky about ammo? Yes.

Is a revolver simpler to make? No.

 

[Nebor]

There are plenty of items from the past that would be cost prohibitive to make today. Newer does not always equal easier to make.

Automatics do not have to worry about cylinder timing.

Is it more likely that a revolver will not be picky about ammo? Yes.

Is a revolver simpler to make? No.

I hate revolvers.

 

[HOOfan 1]

I hate revolvers.

That is fine. I think shooting an auto is more fun as well, but I understand that revolvers are also very fine weapons and I actually shoot better with my Security 6 than any other hand gun. I can shoot an inch group with .357 magnum at 10 yards. While not world class, I think that is impressive.

 

[Electric Amish]

Not liking Glock for ergo's is one thing (although Glocks are very easy to get aftermarket stuff to help with that), but saying that you prefer a Ruger over one for SD/CCW use is idiotic IMO.

If I get a firearm for SD/CCW, then I want something that will fire EVERY time. I don't see Ruger having that reliability I'm looking for.

So you're guessing the Ruger has poor reliability. You have no concrete evidence? Like I said before, I have never had a failure on my SR9. I don't carry it, but just because it's a little big. Not due to reliability issues...