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Amused

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Originally posted by: Elganja
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Amused
It's amazing how little people know about liquor anymore since everyone mixes it and kills the taste. This is why companies like Absolut and Grey Goose can sell what is little better than well brand liquor for top shelf price and get away with it. They are the Bose of Vodkas.

The best way to learn about whiskeys and scotches is to sip it straight, on the rocks, or on the rocks with a splash. Same with vodkas. Ever wonder which vodka is best? Start drinking gimlets and you'll find out fast.

Glenfiddich 12 and 18 y/o is excellent on the rocks and/or with a splash. To me, Scotch is always tastier with a splash. The 21 year old is like a dream.

Try Jonnie Walker red or black straight and you'll quickly taste the difference bwtween them and premium single malts.

For whiskey, I like Jameson neat. It's funny when people claim to like whiskey and claim to love Jack Danniels. Get them to try that neat then some Jameson and they quickly change their tune.

I like my scotches and whiskeys smooth, not too burnt and not too sweet. When it is too much of one or the other it overwhelms all the subtle flavers even a slob like me can pick up on. (Canadian whiskeys and blends are way too sweet, Walker too burnt)

I've always advocated drinking the liquor neat. If it cannot be enjoyed neat, it will not be consumed.

I agree to a point. But with scotch, a splash (not a mix mind you) tends to bring out so much more flavor in the liqour. A splash on the rocks makes it a bit more refreshing, while still getting all the flavor.

But yeah, I totally agree. People have for the most part lost the taste for true quality liquor. Prohibition gave us the mixed drink to hide the horrible taste of bathtub gin, and little has changed since.

can you elaborate a little more on a "splash"? Like do you mean a little water? or some flavored drink like a coke/sprite?

Just a dab of water. If you have a glass with three fingers of liquor in it, a spalsh would be less than quarter finger. Just enough to bring out the flaver, but not enough to dilute it to any extent.

Mixing a fine scotch or whiskey with a flavored drink is just a shameful waste of money. Use the cheaper stuff for that. It'll taste the same and save you a ton of cash.
 

Elganja

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Elganja

can you elaborate a little more on a "splash"? Like do you mean a little water? or some flavored drink like a coke/sprite?

Just a dab of water. If you have a glass with three fingers of liquor in it, a spalsh would be less than quarter finger. Just enough to bring out the flaver, but not enough to dilute it to any extent.

Mixing a fine scotch or whiskey with a flavored drink is just a shameful waste of money. Use the cheaper stuff for that. It'll taste the same and save you a ton of cash.

cool, i'll try it next time, thanks for the tip

 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: CRXican
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: CRXican
Originally posted by: finite automaton
What's a good noob-scotch-drinker scotch to get started with? I've had scotch once, and disliked it. However, at one point in life I disliked beer as well.

Johnnie Walker Red or Black

Blue lable is the ONLY Johnnie Walker worth drinking, and it sadly costs a lot more then 50$

lame

trying to be cool


eh nothing with trying to be cool, red and black arnt very good, blue is, pretty simple concept

So is green and gold...

Eh, I actually like black more than green. Smokier flavor. green is okay, but not my speed. Blue is good, but way overrated/overpriced.

The single malts that are blended into Green are not really known for a smoke flavor profile (its component from the Islay is Caol Ila which is a pretty light islay scotch), so that make sense -- its flavor is more of a spicy highland type profile. I think you would enjoy Lagavulin.

I do like Lagavulin, and I love Laphroaig. :)
 

KGB

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If you really want to impress him, get some Knockando or Cragganmore.

Both are reasonably priced and sometime hard to find.

If your wife's boss drinks his scotch neat or on the rocks, get him one of these.
If he's a wuss and adds water, get him some decent blended stuff (Chivas, etc.)
If he mixes it with Coke, she need to find a new job. :p
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: CRXican
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: CRXican
Originally posted by: finite automaton
What's a good noob-scotch-drinker scotch to get started with? I've had scotch once, and disliked it. However, at one point in life I disliked beer as well.

Johnnie Walker Red or Black

Blue lable is the ONLY Johnnie Walker worth drinking, and it sadly costs a lot more then 50$

lame

trying to be cool


eh nothing with trying to be cool, red and black arnt very good, blue is, pretty simple concept

So is green and gold...

Eh, I actually like black more than green. Smokier flavor. green is okay, but not my speed. Blue is good, but way overrated/overpriced.

The single malts that are blended into Green are not really known for a smoke flavor profile (its component from the Islay is Caol Ila which is a pretty light islay scotch), so that make sense -- its flavor is more of a spicy highland type profile. I think you would enjoy Lagavulin.

I do like Lagavulin, and I love Laphroaig. :)

LOL, this is where it gets subjective. You like the smokey (burnt) stuff. To me, it tastes like I'm licking fireplace ashes. :p

But hey, go with what ya like, right? :) One thing is for sure, the variations in scotch and whiskey are wonderful, and fun to explore (in moderation, of course) LOL
 

Apathetic

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: CRXican
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: CRXican
Originally posted by: finite automaton
What's a good noob-scotch-drinker scotch to get started with? I've had scotch once, and disliked it. However, at one point in life I disliked beer as well.

Johnnie Walker Red or Black

Blue lable is the ONLY Johnnie Walker worth drinking, and it sadly costs a lot more then 50$

lame

trying to be cool


eh nothing with trying to be cool, red and black arnt very good, blue is, pretty simple concept

So is green and gold...

Eh, I actually like black more than green. Smokier flavor. green is okay, but not my speed. Blue is good, but way overrated/overpriced.

The single malts that are blended into Green are not really known for a smoke flavor profile (its component from the Islay is Caol Ila which is a pretty light islay scotch), so that make sense -- its flavor is more of a spicy highland type profile. I think you would enjoy Lagavulin.

I do like Lagavulin, and I love Laphroaig. :)

Laphroaig is a bit too smokey for me.

Dave
 

Tiamat

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Elganja
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Amused
It's amazing how little people know about liquor anymore since everyone mixes it and kills the taste. This is why companies like Absolut and Grey Goose can sell what is little better than well brand liquor for top shelf price and get away with it. They are the Bose of Vodkas.

The best way to learn about whiskeys and scotches is to sip it straight, on the rocks, or on the rocks with a splash. Same with vodkas. Ever wonder which vodka is best? Start drinking gimlets and you'll find out fast.

Glenfiddich 12 and 18 y/o is excellent on the rocks and/or with a splash. To me, Scotch is always tastier with a splash. The 21 year old is like a dream.

Try Jonnie Walker red or black straight and you'll quickly taste the difference bwtween them and premium single malts.

For whiskey, I like Jameson neat. It's funny when people claim to like whiskey and claim to love Jack Danniels. Get them to try that neat then some Jameson and they quickly change their tune.

I like my scotches and whiskeys smooth, not too burnt and not too sweet. When it is too much of one or the other it overwhelms all the subtle flavers even a slob like me can pick up on. (Canadian whiskeys and blends are way too sweet, Walker too burnt)

I've always advocated drinking the liquor neat. If it cannot be enjoyed neat, it will not be consumed.

I agree to a point. But with scotch, a splash (not a mix mind you) tends to bring out so much more flavor in the liqour. A splash on the rocks makes it a bit more refreshing, while still getting all the flavor.

But yeah, I totally agree. People have for the most part lost the taste for true quality liquor. Prohibition gave us the mixed drink to hide the horrible taste of bathtub gin, and little has changed since.

can you elaborate a little more on a "splash"? Like do you mean a little water? or some flavored drink like a coke/sprite?

Just a dab of water. If you have a glass with three fingers of liquor in it, a spalsh would be less than quarter finger. Just enough to bring out the flaver, but not enough to dilute it to any extent.

Mixing a fine scotch or whiskey with a flavored drink is just a shameful waste of money. Use the cheaper stuff for that. It'll taste the same and save you a ton of cash.

Unless there is a synergistic pairing between the premium and the spritz. For example, Tanqueray No. 10 or Rangpur in a tonic will (in my opinion) always taste better than Beefeater/Bombay in tonic due to the lime within the formerly named gins.

This synergism is also why Tanqueray No. 10 (or Hendrick's for that matter) will never make as great standard martini with olives/olive juice/onion as Bombay Sapphire; rather, the aforementioned need to be drank chilled and alone in a martini glass with a lime or cucumber respectively.

Of course, this is simply been my observations. It is important for people to try things for themselves as everyone has different palettes.
 

Tiamat

Lifer
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Laphroig is too tough for me :) If you like Laphroig, seek out the 30 year as that one is beginning to become nearly impossible to find.

For the smokey scotches, they go very well with the whole fireplace scene. They go well with eating smoked foods like bacon. They pair nicely with smokey cheeses as well. The only thing I liked about upstate NY was the wood burning fireplaces you could smell. Lagavulin reminds me of that and more. It certainly isn't a drink for social times like the martini, but is a great "sit back and relax" drink (just like any mature scotch).
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Elganja
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Amused
It's amazing how little people know about liquor anymore since everyone mixes it and kills the taste. This is why companies like Absolut and Grey Goose can sell what is little better than well brand liquor for top shelf price and get away with it. They are the Bose of Vodkas.

The best way to learn about whiskeys and scotches is to sip it straight, on the rocks, or on the rocks with a splash. Same with vodkas. Ever wonder which vodka is best? Start drinking gimlets and you'll find out fast.

Glenfiddich 12 and 18 y/o is excellent on the rocks and/or with a splash. To me, Scotch is always tastier with a splash. The 21 year old is like a dream.

Try Jonnie Walker red or black straight and you'll quickly taste the difference bwtween them and premium single malts.

For whiskey, I like Jameson neat. It's funny when people claim to like whiskey and claim to love Jack Danniels. Get them to try that neat then some Jameson and they quickly change their tune.

I like my scotches and whiskeys smooth, not too burnt and not too sweet. When it is too much of one or the other it overwhelms all the subtle flavers even a slob like me can pick up on. (Canadian whiskeys and blends are way too sweet, Walker too burnt)

I've always advocated drinking the liquor neat. If it cannot be enjoyed neat, it will not be consumed.

I agree to a point. But with scotch, a splash (not a mix mind you) tends to bring out so much more flavor in the liqour. A splash on the rocks makes it a bit more refreshing, while still getting all the flavor.

But yeah, I totally agree. People have for the most part lost the taste for true quality liquor. Prohibition gave us the mixed drink to hide the horrible taste of bathtub gin, and little has changed since.

can you elaborate a little more on a "splash"? Like do you mean a little water? or some flavored drink like a coke/sprite?

Just a dab of water. If you have a glass with three fingers of liquor in it, a spalsh would be less than quarter finger. Just enough to bring out the flaver, but not enough to dilute it to any extent.

Mixing a fine scotch or whiskey with a flavored drink is just a shameful waste of money. Use the cheaper stuff for that. It'll taste the same and save you a ton of cash.

Unless there is a synergistic pairing between the premium and the spritz. For example, Tanqueray No. 10 or Rangpur in a tonic will (in my opinion) always taste better than Beefeater/Bombay in tonic due to the lime within the formerly named gins.

This synergism is also why Tanqueray No. 10 (or Hendrick's for that matter) will never make as great standard martini with olives/olive juice/onion as Bombay Sapphire; rather, the aforementioned need to be drank chilled and alone in a martini glass with a lime or cucumber respectively.

Of course, this is simply been my observations. It is important for people to try things for themselves as everyone has different palettes.

Ah, a gin drinker. Having grown up in an area with a lot of Eucalyptus trees, I never could get into the taste of gin. Probably because I hated the smell of the trees when I was young and gin reminds me of that. Juniper smells somewhat like Eucalyptus to me.
 

ThePresence

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In the OP's price range, I would also recommend Glenmorangie. Good scotch, not too expensive.
 

Tiamat

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
In the OP's price range, I would also recommend Glenmorangie. Good scotch, not too expensive.

I still have yet to try that. In Boston, it is always priced with Macallan so I always just get a 15 yr Speyside instead :(
 

jiggahertz

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Lagavulin 16. It is 75$ but well worth it. Otherwise, Glenlivet 15 year, Glenfiddich 15 year,

Laphroaig 10 yr is a good alternative to Lagavulin 16 and is ~$40 at liquor stores around here.
 

Tiamat

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Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Lagavulin 16. It is 75$ but well worth it. Otherwise, Glenlivet 15 year, Glenfiddich 15 year,

Laphroaig 10 yr is a good alternative to Lagavulin 16 and is ~$40 at liquor stores around here.

Laphroaig is a bit too strong for me, Lagavulin just hits the right spots for me. In Boston (where everythign is more expensive) Laphroaig comes in at 60$ :(
 

Fiat1

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Drink you Scotch with a splash of soda instead of water for a great treat. Then you might try to make your own soda with one of these soda siphons and you will never use water again.
 

Tiamat

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Fiat1
Drink you Scotch with a splash of soda instead of water for a great treat. Then you might try to make your own soda with one of these soda siphons and you will never use water again.

Like Club soda / tonic water?
 

Fiat1

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Fiat1
Drink you Scotch with a splash of soda instead of water for a great treat. Then you might try to make your own soda with one of these soda siphons and you will never use water again.

Like Club soda / tonic water?

Yes club soda will work. Fresh Soda made with CO2 doesn't add any flavor and it gives it a
effervescent quality.
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: Fiat1
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Fiat1
Drink you Scotch with a splash of soda instead of water for a great treat. Then you might try to make your own soda with one of these soda siphons and you will never use water again.

Like Club soda / tonic water?

Yes club soda will work. Fresh Soda made with CO2 doesn't add any flavor and it gives it a
effervescent quality.

It will dull the taste and kill the aromas, just like ice. What a waste.
 

jiggahertz

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Lagavulin 16. It is 75$ but well worth it. Otherwise, Glenlivet 15 year, Glenfiddich 15 year,

Laphroaig 10 yr is a good alternative to Lagavulin 16 and is ~$40 at liquor stores around here.

Laphroaig is a bit too strong for me, Lagavulin just hits the right spots for me. In Boston (where everythign is more expensive) Laphroaig comes in at 60$ :(

Stop by the NH Liquor Store if you're ever up in the area :)
 

Tiamat

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Lagavulin 16. It is 75$ but well worth it. Otherwise, Glenlivet 15 year, Glenfiddich 15 year,

Laphroaig 10 yr is a good alternative to Lagavulin 16 and is ~$40 at liquor stores around here.

Laphroaig is a bit too strong for me, Lagavulin just hits the right spots for me. In Boston (where everythign is more expensive) Laphroaig comes in at 60$ :(

Stop by the NH Liquor Store if you're ever up in the area :)

How far from Hudson would it be?
 

Zebo

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http://www.glenmorangie.com/

I personally have been drinking this about 12 years now. It's like Jif peanut butter or something else you found to be perfect product and never change or experiment with another.

A review: Anyway, not a smoky, spicy Scotch like the Islays I like, but a lot more complex and flavourful than Glenfiddich. It has a light, delicate flavor, no obvious flaws, though it is a bit sharp at first. If mixed with water or soda suddenly a whole lot of subtle flavours come out.
 

jiggahertz

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Lagavulin 16. It is 75$ but well worth it. Otherwise, Glenlivet 15 year, Glenfiddich 15 year,

Laphroaig 10 yr is a good alternative to Lagavulin 16 and is ~$40 at liquor stores around here.

Laphroaig is a bit too strong for me, Lagavulin just hits the right spots for me. In Boston (where everythign is more expensive) Laphroaig comes in at 60$ :(

Stop by the NH Liquor Store if you're ever up in the area :)

How far from Hudson would it be?

What do I look like, mapquest? There is one right across the state line in nashua (exit 1 off rte 3). Selection is not as good as MA, but price is better.
 

SMOGZINN

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Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: Fiat1
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Fiat1
Drink you Scotch with a splash of soda instead of water for a great treat. Then you might try to make your own soda with one of these soda siphons and you will never use water again.

Like Club soda / tonic water?

Yes club soda will work. Fresh Soda made with CO2 doesn't add any flavor and it gives it a
effervescent quality.

It will dull the taste and kill the aromas, just like ice. What a waste.

pretty much all the experts agree that a splash of water actually opens up the flavors of scotch. I personally like a single ice cube, but if you can make some soda that will work well too.
 

Descartes

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Glenlivet or Glenrothes for a Speyside malt. I love Glenlivet and I'll even use it for mixed drinks just because I can. I love Rusty Nails with a Glenlivet 12 year.

Glenmorangie or Aberlour for a Highland. Aberlour in particular is all from a Sherry cask, I believe. It has a great flavor, but don't put it on the rocks and certainly don't try mixing it (I have).

I'm not a fan of Glenfiddich.

And I think JWB is just fine for mixed drinks.
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: Fiat1
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Fiat1
Drink you Scotch with a splash of soda instead of water for a great treat. Then you might try to make your own soda with one of these soda siphons and you will never use water again.

Like Club soda / tonic water?

Yes club soda will work. Fresh Soda made with CO2 doesn't add any flavor and it gives it a
effervescent quality.

It will dull the taste and kill the aromas, just like ice. What a waste.

pretty much all the experts agree that a splash of water actually opens up the flavors of scotch. I personally like a single ice cube, but if you can make some soda that will work well too.

A splash of pure, soft water argubly opens of the flavors (and not nearly all experts agree on this). Not tap water, or ice cubes made from tap, or soda water.