Ferrai Enzo; 0-60 in 3.4 seconds

[geno]

A real enthusiast goes for performance first..

And the Enzo outperforms any Vette Lingenfelter has ever put out, so what's your point?

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Lingenfelter Corvette wins in terms of performance/value. A real enthusiast goes for performance first.. a European yuppy goes for a Ferrari.

If you want an exotic sports car that you can actually drive without having to get a repair every 3000 miles instead of an oil change, get a Porsche, Mercedes, BMW...

How about the NSX?

 

[Shantanu]

The exterior styling on the Enzo is horrendous.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Lingenfelter Corvette wins in terms of performance/value. A real enthusiast goes for performance first.. a European yuppy goes for a Ferrari.

If you want an exotic sports car that you can actually drive without having to get a repair every 3000 miles instead of an oil change, get a Porsche, Mercedes, BMW...

And a Neon SRT beats an Infiniti G35 in performance/value

Someone that can afford a Lingenfelter Corvette or Enzo isn't worrying about a value. Stop thinking on an income level of the average American and start thinking like a millionare. People this rich aren't bothered with such "silly" compromises.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: geno

A real enthusiast goes for performance first..

And the Enzo outperforms any Vette Lingenfelter has ever put out, so what's your point?

ummmm... did you read the thread?

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: geno

A real enthusiast goes for performance first..

And the Enzo outperforms any Vette Lingenfelter has ever put out, so what's your point?

ummmm... did you read the thread?

Sure did. He said that a "real enthusiast" will opt for performance first. Well, the Enzo is the clear winner, so why not go for that first? Maybe he meant "a real enthusiast goes for bang/buck factor" ?

 

[TonyB]

if i was a billionare, i'd have 7 enzos in 7 different colors, so that i can drive a different one each day of the week.

 

[Oscar1613]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Not even this one?

If you want to compare a tricked out $40,000 car to this, then be my guest.


Again, there is NO comparison.


This is enough to drool over:

http://www.velocityphotos.com//images/full/2003/s2003010901/fr2003enzo6008.jpg

God that thing is ugly. FUGLY to be precise.

ditto... i would MUCH rather have a Bugatti Veyron... 0-60 in 3.2s, 0-186 in under 14s, top speed of 252mph

pics :drool:

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: TonyB
if i was a billionare, i'd have 7 enzos in 7 different colors, so that i can drive a different one each day of the week.

I think they only come in 3 different colors (Red Yellow and Black)... it'd cost a lot of money to get the other 4 repainted, but hey, you're a billionaire!

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: geno

A real enthusiast goes for performance first..

And the Enzo outperforms any Vette Lingenfelter has ever put out, so what's your point?

ummmm... did you read the thread?

Sure did. He said that a "real enthusiast" will opt for performance first. Well, the Enzo is the clear winner, so why not go for that first? Maybe he meant "a real enthusiast goes for bang/buck factor" ?

Try again..427 Corvette, 0-60, 1.92 seconds.

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
First of all everyone saying to trick out a corvette and it's just as good as the enzo: Step away from the crack pipe.

I've seen a civic on TV do 0-60 in 3 seconds flat. That's faster than the enzo. It was also cheaper. Is it just as good? Seriously. Just say no to drugs.

Enzo is a sweet car but my heart is still with the mclaren f1!

Did that Civic also pull a 1.01g on the skidpad? Also, does anyone have any hard evidence on what the Enzo pulls on a Skidpad?

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: geno

A real enthusiast goes for performance first..

And the Enzo outperforms any Vette Lingenfelter has ever put out, so what's your point?

ummmm... did you read the thread?

Sure did. He said that a "real enthusiast" will opt for performance first. Well, the Enzo is the clear winner, so why not go for that first? Maybe he meant "a real enthusiast goes for bang/buck factor" ?

Try again..427 Corvette, 0-60, 1.92 seconds.

In a *race circuit* what car would actually win? Straight line speed is all well and good but how does it take the turns? Remember if it can't take the turns with speed its going to lose time and how does it control at the higher speeds?

The Enzo looks like so because of aerodynamics. That is why the front end looks very much like the front end of an F1 car. The nose and the way it comes out. Obviously the Enzo can't have a nose exactly like the F1 car as it would probably fail crash tests. So its the way it has to be. Some like it some don't.......

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: geno

A real enthusiast goes for performance first..

And the Enzo outperforms any Vette Lingenfelter has ever put out, so what's your point?

ummmm... did you read the thread?

Sure did. He said that a "real enthusiast" will opt for performance first. Well, the Enzo is the clear winner, so why not go for that first? Maybe he meant "a real enthusiast goes for bang/buck factor" ?

Try again..427 Corvette, 0-60, 1.92 seconds.

Well the vette has slicks and the Enzo doesn't. No way a car can do a 0-60 time that fast without having slicks.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

I can't even imagine buying an Enzo and enjoying it. I would be afraid to test its limits... So I guess I would rather have a Corvette.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I can't even imagine buying an Enzo and enjoying it. I would be afraid to test its limits... So I guess I would rather have a Corvette.

i'd be afraid to test either car's limits. did you see andretti's crash the other day? if you do that in a street car they're going to be scraping your off the concrete

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: geno

A real enthusiast goes for performance first..

And the Enzo outperforms any Vette Lingenfelter has ever put out, so what's your point?

ummmm... did you read the thread?

Sure did. He said that a "real enthusiast" will opt for performance first. Well, the Enzo is the clear winner, so why not go for that first? Maybe he meant "a real enthusiast goes for bang/buck factor" ?

Try again..427 Corvette, 0-60, 1.92 seconds.

In a *race circuit* what car would actually win? Straight line speed is all well and good but how does it take the turns? Remember if it can't take the turns with speed its going to lose time and how does it control at the higher speeds?

The Enzo looks like so because of aerodynamics. That is why the front end looks very much like the front end of an F1 car. The nose and the way it comes out. Obviously the Enzo can't have a nose exactly like the F1 car as it would probably fail crash tests. So its the way it has to be. Some like it some don't.......

Look at the title of this thread and tell me how that is relevant..

 

[WarCon]

NM.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: SnapIT
The corvette isn't just as fast or faster, unless you drive it only straight ahead... on a track where you have curves, you would have to drive it like it had half the power it actually has...

The enzo was built for the horsepower it has, everything about the car screams racer, the vette was never built to handle that kind of power...

Read the first post in this thread again. Was it about track performance? Was it about how many g's an Enzo can pull? Was it about a new slalom time of the Enzo?

NO. It was aimed towards ZERO TO SIXTY times. Look at the friggin' title.

The fact is, the Enzo's 0-60 time (which again, which is why this thread was started), is beat BADLY by a car that costs a fraction of its price. Therefore, one can conclude that the Enzo's 0-60 time is NOT that impressive.

NO ONE is claiming that the Vette is a more desirable car, or a car that's even in the same league as the Enzo.

But still, while we're on the subject, the 427 Vette pulls over a G on the skidpad, and anyone who says the Vette in any form is only a straight line car needs to get their head checked.

And..to anyone that talks about making a Civic a fast car, may I remind you that the Civic is a front wheel drive econo box designed for getting good gas mileage. You will not be able to make it turn in whatever direction you point the wheel and expect it to go there. The Vette is a sports car, designed to go fast and handle well, practicality being second. The Enzo, on a different level obviously, has the same philosophy. Comparing those two is just a little more valid than putting a Civic in the mix.

The lingenfelter is a souped up vette, it's meant to go fast in a straight line, nobody in their right mind would even try to race an Enzo with that on a track...

And this thread is about the Ferrari Enzo and that it does go as fast as Ferrari said it would, not about track driving OR vettes...

So you have strayed from the topic as much as anyone...

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: SnapIT
The corvette isn't just as fast or faster, unless you drive it only straight ahead... on a track where you have curves, you would have to drive it like it had half the power it actually has...

The enzo was built for the horsepower it has, everything about the car screams racer, the vette was never built to handle that kind of power...

Read the first post in this thread again. Was it about track performance? Was it about how many g's an Enzo can pull? Was it about a new slalom time of the Enzo?

NO. It was aimed towards ZERO TO SIXTY times. Look at the friggin' title.

The fact is, the Enzo's 0-60 time (which again, which is why this thread was started), is beat BADLY by a car that costs a fraction of its price. Therefore, one can conclude that the Enzo's 0-60 time is NOT that impressive.

NO ONE is claiming that the Vette is a more desirable car, or a car that's even in the same league as the Enzo.

But still, while we're on the subject, the 427 Vette pulls over a G on the skidpad, and anyone who says the Vette in any form is only a straight line car needs to get their head checked.

And..to anyone that talks about making a Civic a fast car, may I remind you that the Civic is a front wheel drive econo box designed for getting good gas mileage. You will not be able to make it turn in whatever direction you point the wheel and expect it to go there. The Vette is a sports car, designed to go fast and handle well, practicality being second. The Enzo, on a different level obviously, has the same philosophy. Comparing those two is just a little more valid than putting a Civic in the mix.

The lingenfelter is a souped up vette, it's meant to go fast in a straight line, nobody in their right mind would even try to race an Enzo with that on a track...

And this thread is about the Ferrari Enzo and that it does go as fast as Ferrari said it would, not about track driving OR vettes...

So you have strayed from the topic as much as anyone...

Umm.... the Lingenfelter does handle pretty damn good. Hey compare the Enzo to the C5-R if you want a track comparison.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: SnapIT
The corvette isn't just as fast or faster, unless you drive it only straight ahead... on a track where you have curves, you would have to drive it like it had half the power it actually has...

The enzo was built for the horsepower it has, everything about the car screams racer, the vette was never built to handle that kind of power...

Read the first post in this thread again. Was it about track performance? Was it about how many g's an Enzo can pull? Was it about a new slalom time of the Enzo?

NO. It was aimed towards ZERO TO SIXTY times. Look at the friggin' title.

The fact is, the Enzo's 0-60 time (which again, which is why this thread was started), is beat BADLY by a car that costs a fraction of its price. Therefore, one can conclude that the Enzo's 0-60 time is NOT that impressive.

NO ONE is claiming that the Vette is a more desirable car, or a car that's even in the same league as the Enzo.

But still, while we're on the subject, the 427 Vette pulls over a G on the skidpad, and anyone who says the Vette in any form is only a straight line car needs to get their head checked.

And..to anyone that talks about making a Civic a fast car, may I remind you that the Civic is a front wheel drive econo box designed for getting good gas mileage. You will not be able to make it turn in whatever direction you point the wheel and expect it to go there. The Vette is a sports car, designed to go fast and handle well, practicality being second. The Enzo, on a different level obviously, has the same philosophy. Comparing those two is just a little more valid than putting a Civic in the mix.

The lingenfelter is a souped up vette, it's meant to go fast in a straight line, nobody in their right mind would even try to race an Enzo with that on a track...

And this thread is about the Ferrari Enzo and that it does go as fast as Ferrari said it would, not about track driving OR vettes...

So you have strayed from the topic as much as anyone...

Umm.... the Lingenfelter does handle pretty damn good. Hey compare the Enzo to the C5-R if you want a track comparison.

The Enzo can be driven on the track AND on the street. Can't say that for the C5-R.

And for all of you trying to compare the Lingenfelter Corvette to the Enzo...as a total package, the Corvette doesn't even come close to "mere" 360 Modena. Now I've had the chance to sample a C5 (albeit a friggin 4-speed auto...like most of the Vette's sold today), and it is not even in the same league construction/quality/visually compared to the 360 Modena.

I rode in a new 360 Modena with an F1 transmission. Black Conolloy leather interior with aluminum trim everywhere. Aluminum bulkheads around the center console, aluminum bulkheads around the door sills, aluminum doors with leather plastered all over. The ENTIRE dash is covered in leather from head to toe as are every portion of the doors (at least the portions without beautifully exposed aluminum). Aluminum pull handles for the doors. The seats are so form fitting...it's like they were made JUST for you. The cockpit is nothing buy high quality plastic, leather and aluminum. The Vette is like a penatly box in comparison. Cheap plastic dash, crappy materials used on the doors and switchgear and leather seats that feel like vinyl.

Sitting in the seat, I look back over my shoulder and see the 3.6 liter V8 engine "beating" behind me through the pane of glass seperating the engine bay and the cockpit singing like a BANSHEE.

Now, the 5.7 liter unit in the Vette makes some sweet noises...but the 3.6 liter unit in the Modena simply sings!! I mean, this baby WAILS!!!!!! Who needs a damn radio/CD player with this baby behind your ears!! Just hearing that puppy go BANG BANG BANG as the right shift paddle is pulled for an upshift and your head just lunges back into the head rest. Then to feel my insides slosh from side to side as this baby flew around corners as planted as magnet on metal and feel my eyeballs suck to their sockets as the car braked like a mofo!! And then there's the ride of the car over city roads!! Simply marvelous. For it to be a supercar, its ride quality is about as sedate as your average family sedan.

Then the stares that you get in public. It's awesome!! I remember us pulling up to a Trailblazer (I think that's what it was...this was about 5 months ago). Dude does a double take when he sees the Modena. Here we are sitting at light and I'm looking at the guy, then watching the rev counter on the dash. Light turns green. SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!!! BAM BAM BAM BAM ZOOM!!!!!!!!!! Haha, I was so giddy I almost pissed my pants That happened everywhere we went. People were just going ga-ga over the 360. No one was stupid enough to challenge us either


Why am I saying all of this???? Corvettes are all well good...Lingenfelters are nice for what they are. But NOTHING of that "caliber" comes close to comparing to a Ferrari...let alone an Enzo.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: SnapIT
The corvette isn't just as fast or faster, unless you drive it only straight ahead... on a track where you have curves, you would have to drive it like it had half the power it actually has...

The enzo was built for the horsepower it has, everything about the car screams racer, the vette was never built to handle that kind of power...

Read the first post in this thread again. Was it about track performance? Was it about how many g's an Enzo can pull? Was it about a new slalom time of the Enzo?

NO. It was aimed towards ZERO TO SIXTY times. Look at the friggin' title.

The fact is, the Enzo's 0-60 time (which again, which is why this thread was started), is beat BADLY by a car that costs a fraction of its price. Therefore, one can conclude that the Enzo's 0-60 time is NOT that impressive.

NO ONE is claiming that the Vette is a more desirable car, or a car that's even in the same league as the Enzo.

But still, while we're on the subject, the 427 Vette pulls over a G on the skidpad, and anyone who says the Vette in any form is only a straight line car needs to get their head checked.

And..to anyone that talks about making a Civic a fast car, may I remind you that the Civic is a front wheel drive econo box designed for getting good gas mileage. You will not be able to make it turn in whatever direction you point the wheel and expect it to go there. The Vette is a sports car, designed to go fast and handle well, practicality being second. The Enzo, on a different level obviously, has the same philosophy. Comparing those two is just a little more valid than putting a Civic in the mix.

The lingenfelter is a souped up vette, it's meant to go fast in a straight line, nobody in their right mind would even try to race an Enzo with that on a track...

And this thread is about the Ferrari Enzo and that it does go as fast as Ferrari said it would, not about track driving OR vettes...

So you have strayed from the topic as much as anyone...

Umm.... the Lingenfelter does handle pretty damn good. Hey compare the Enzo to the C5-R if you want a track comparison.

The Enzo can be driven on the track AND on the street. Can't say that for the C5-R.

And for all of you trying to compare the Lingenfelter Corvette to the Enzo...as a total package, the Corvette doesn't even come close to "mere" 360 Modena. Now I've had the chance to sample a C5 (albeit a friggin 4-speed auto...like most of the Vette's sold today), and it is not even in the same league construction/quality/visually compared to the 360 Modena.

I rode in a new 360 Modena with an F1 transmission. Black Conolloy leather interior with aluminum trim everywhere. Aluminum bulkheads around the center console, aluminum bulkheads around the door sills, aluminum doors with leather plastered all over. The ENTIRE dash is covered in leather from head to toe as are every portion of the doors (at least the portions without beautifully exposed aluminum). Aluminum pull handles for the doors. The seats are so form fitting...it's like they were made JUST for you. The cockpit is nothing buy high quality plastic, leather and aluminum. The Vette is like a penatly box in comparison. Cheap plastic dash, crappy materials used on the doors and switchgear and leather seats that feel like vinyl.

Sitting in the seat, I look back over my shoulder and see the 3.6 liter V8 engine "beating" behind me through the pane of glass seperating the engine bay and the cockpit singing like a BANSHEE.

Now, the 5.7 liter unit in the Vette makes some sweet noises...but the 3.6 liter unit in the Modena simply sings!! I mean, this baby WAILS!!!!!! Who needs a damn radio/CD player with this baby behind your ears!! Just hearing that puppy go BANG BANG BANG as the right shift paddle is pulled for an upshift and your head just lunges back into the head rest. Then to feel my insides slosh from side to side as this baby flew around corners as planted as magnet on metal and feel my eyeballs suck to their sockets as the car braked like a mofo!! And then there's the ride of the car over city roads!! Simply marvelous. For it to be a supercar, its ride quality is about as sedate as your average family sedan.

Then the stares that you get in public. It's awesome!! I remember us pulling up to a Trailblazer (I think that's what it was...this was about 5 months ago). Dude does a double take when he sees the Modena. Here we are sitting at light and I'm looking at the guy, then watching the rev counter on the dash. Light turns green. SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!!! BAM BAM BAM BAM ZOOM!!!!!!!!!! Haha, I was so giddy I almost pissed my pants That happened everywhere we went. People were just going ga-ga over the 360. No one was stupid enough to challenge us either


Why am I saying all of this???? Corvettes are all well good...Lingenfelters are nice for what they are. But NOTHING of that "caliber" comes close to comparing to a Ferrari...let alone an Enzo.

I was just talking about track comparisons... I never talked about build quality or the like. To be honest, I wouldn't want either car. Mclaren for me.

 

[NFS4]

I was just talking about track comparisons... I never talked about build quality or the like. To be honest, I wouldn't want either car. Mclaren for me.

I know you were. That's what my first sentence addressed.

It's just that after I wrote that sentence, I just started getting pissed at all the Lingenfelter vs Ferrari comparisons that I just had to break it down from my eyes

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

The lingenfelter is a souped up vette, it's meant to go fast in a straight line, nobody in their right mind would even try to race an Enzo with that on a track...

And this thread is about the Ferrari Enzo and that it does go as fast as Ferrari said it would, not about track driving OR vettes...

So you have strayed from the topic as much as anyone...

vettes handle pretty damn well...

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: geno

A real enthusiast goes for performance first..

And the Enzo outperforms any Vette Lingenfelter has ever put out, so what's your point?

ummmm... did you read the thread?

Sure did. He said that a "real enthusiast" will opt for performance first. Well, the Enzo is the clear winner, so why not go for that first? Maybe he meant "a real enthusiast goes for bang/buck factor" ?

Try again..427 Corvette, 0-60, 1.92 seconds.

0-60 does not make an all around sports car. In overall racing ability and quickness, the Enzo wins.

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: geno

A real enthusiast goes for performance first..

And the Enzo outperforms any Vette Lingenfelter has ever put out, so what's your point?

ummmm... did you read the thread?

Sure did. He said that a "real enthusiast" will opt for performance first. Well, the Enzo is the clear winner, so why not go for that first? Maybe he meant "a real enthusiast goes for bang/buck factor" ?

Try again..427 Corvette, 0-60, 1.92 seconds.

0-60 does not make an all around sports car. In overall racing ability and quickness, the Enzo wins.

Does anybody know for a fact any of the Enzo's performance figures, besides acceleration?