FedEx guy I know is working 7 days a week until February

desura

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and he makes 25k a year. Since he is "management" he isn't eligible for overtime. He was recently promoted from hourly where he made 16k.

That's some American capitalism for ya,
 

Mai72

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So, my guess is Fed Ex is holding a gun to his head? No? Then why the hell is he straying? 7 days a week with no chance at OT? Something ain't right. And, how does one survive on $25k a year. I don't care where you live.

I have a friend who loads the trucks for the UPS guys. He's been doing it for about 5 years now. I asked him why doesn't he drive for UPS. They make good money. He told me that the hours are super crazy. From 8am-9pm, 6 days a week during the holidays. He went on to say that many of the UPS drivers are divorced because they are never home. Even during the regular season the hours are crazy.
 
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Well obviously he just doesn't work hard enough and needs to pull himself up by his bootstraps.

Wait... what?
 
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Isn't there a federal law about overtime now?
1) It's a "regulation" which the labor department is supposed to enforce, not an actual law. Next president could overturn it.
2) It's been pending for a while because of lawsuits. So it'll be delayed until a couple more court rulings come down, anyway.

Being required to work more without additional compensation is something the GOP is apparently a-okay with.
 

brianmanahan

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i call BS, no way someone is making as little as 25$k as a fedex manager

looking at the glassdoor numbers, no manager is making below 40$k. the lowest pay i see is 16$ an hour average for a dock worker.
 

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i call BS, no way someone is making as little as 25$k as a fedex manager

looking at the glassdoor numbers, no manager is making below 40$k. the lowest pay i see is 16$ an hour average for a dock worker.

Agreed. Unless he's part time and "managing" cleaning the floors, he is making significantly more than 25k... probably closer to 52k.
 

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I started working there 2 weeks ago to pay off numerous repairs on my SUV. As a new hiree, you will be a loader, responsible for filling a 53' trailer from bottom to top. It is the hardest job I have ever done - at least 1,000 squats that first week, but my legs built up endurance after a week. What now hurts the most is my elbows/forearms. I had at least a dozen 100+ lb packages in one trailer last night. When it says 'Team Lift' on the box, that essentially means 'Team You' better lift that shit. Starting salary for that position is $13, but they run a holiday promotion starting in September that raises the hourly $2/hr every month until December, so if you started working anytime in September, you'd scale up to $19/hr by December.
 
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I worked as a Ground package handler in Madison. $10 hour for about 24 hours a week. Some were full time limited to 39 hours a week.
That said, some of the management are shift managers who only cover one 4-6 hour shift.
That pay could be for 24-30 hours a week. Ground has 3 different shifts depending on location. OTP is usually 11pm to 3am depending on package load. 24k for manager of that shift is not too bad hour wise. Beats Mcdonalds I'd imagine.
 

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So, my guess is Fed Ex is holding a gun to his head? No? Then why the hell is he straying? 7 days a week with no chance at OT? Something ain't right. And, how does one survive on $25k a year. I don't care where you live.

I have a friend who loads the trucks for the UPS guys. He's been doing it for about 5 years now. I asked him why doesn't he drive for UPS. They make good money. He told me that the hours are super crazy. From 8am-9pm, 6 days a week during the holidays. He went on to say that many of the UPS drivers are divorced because they are never home. Even during the regular season the hours are crazy.
Wanna know how I know you live on the coast and are clueless about the rest of the country?
 

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That's brutal, at that point life is practically not even worth it. That's not living. I'd be trying to find another job, but in this market that's very hard to do, and if you're working all the time then you don't even have TIME to find another job. And yeah I can't imagine living on 25k. i make about 70k and have maybe a few hundred bucks at the end of the month left over. Does not help that costs of living keep going up at an exponential rate.
 
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Mixolydian

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Glad I'm at UPS and not FedEx. We're union. :p but yeah I start at midnight 3 of the 5 days this week, and 1 AM the other two. Fortunately anything over 5 hours is overtime. But peak season is always rough.
 
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Had dinner with a friend that works for a subsidiary of their competition. He said one of the big differences if that only the 'Express' is really FedEx, and everything else is contractors. So, things like Ground, LTL, etc., are not really FedEx.

Not related to this post was another difference: Because they got started as an airline it is illegal for FedEx pilots to strike. This is dramatically different for competition like UPS, etc., which got started as a [ground] delivery service so their pilots can legally strike.
 

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Had dinner with a friend that works for a subsidiary of their competition. He said one of the big differences if that only the 'Express' is really FedEx, and everything else is contractors. So, things like Ground, LTL, etc., are not really FedEx.

Not related to this post was another difference: Because they got started as an airline it is illegal for FedEx pilots to strike. This is dramatically different for competition like UPS, etc., which got started as a [ground] delivery service so their pilots can legally strike.

You are right in that the drivers are contractors. The rest of the workers at Ground and Home I.E.:management, loaders, etc are all fedex employees.
 

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i call BS, no way someone is making as little as 25$k as a fedex manager

looking at the glassdoor numbers, no manager is making below 40$k. the lowest pay i see is 16$ an hour average for a dock worker.

Unless it's part time...I completely agree. There are several different independent FedEx companies that handle different types of shipping needs. But I truly can't imagine any of them pay that little for any full time management jobs. I worked for one of their companies as a supervisor in the 90's and made $50k back then, the hours did suck and there wasn't OT but you can say no and leave if their demands are unreasonable.
 

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You are right in that the drivers are contractors. The rest of the workers at Ground and Home I.E.:management, loaders, etc are all fedex employees.

Had dinner with a friend that works for a subsidiary of their competition. He said one of the big differences if that only the 'Express' is really FedEx, and everything else is contractors. So, things like Ground, LTL, etc., are not really FedEx.

Not related to this post was another difference: Because they got started as an airline it is illegal for FedEx pilots to strike. This is dramatically different for competition like UPS, etc., which got started as a [ground] delivery service so their pilots can legally strike.

Ground has the contracted drivers, but the LTL is FedEx Freight and is simply another company (American Freightways) that they purchased in the early 2000's and changed the name to FedEx Freight. All their employees work for FedEx, however there are many linehaul loads that get picked up by contractors that do not have FedEx on the truck, but this is the exception not the rule.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I'm sure even in the flyover states that pay is not a ton though either.
You're right. My point is that the "flyover States" make up the MAJORITY of the country and the ones influencing policy and making laws think their living situation is average when they're at the top.
 

Red Squirrel

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Even here in Canada in a small city I can't imagine living on only 25k. I make about 70k and barely have much left over at the end. When you start to add up all the bills, there's not much place left to cut.