FedEx guy I know is working 7 days a week until February

[Chaotic42]

Isn't there a federal law about overtime now?

IIRC it starts in January.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I "live"on a lot less than that.

(Mmm, Ramen again for dinner, I see. )

 

[cbrunny]

What education reqs? Reeding? Talking out the big face hole?

 

[Zorba]

IIRC it starts in January.

It was supposed to start in December, but just got blocked by a judge.

 

[who?]

The updated federal reg. is on hold but the original is still in effect..
American Freightways became Fed Ex Freight East. Pacific Intermountain Express became Fed Ex Freight West.

 

[Imp]

I'd love to be a delivery driver... except I'd only do it at night when there's little traffic. Too bad people don't seem to like strangers knocking on their doors at 3am for some reason... We need some sort of drop off box system.

 

[who?]

Fed Ex ground was Roadway Package service that Fed Ex bought from Roadway trucking which had tried to compete with UPS with it.

 

[shortylickens]

1) It's a "regulation" which the labor department is supposed to enforce, not an actual law. Next president could overturn it.
2) It's been pending for a while because of lawsuits. So it'll be delayed until a couple more court rulings come down, anyway.

Being required to work more without additional compensation is something the GOP is apparently a-okay with.

Next president?

You mean the piece of shit who screws over his employees, investors, random strangers, and never pays taxes?
THAT president?

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Next president?

You mean the piece of shit who screws over his employees, investors, random strangers, and never pays taxes?
THAT president?

 

[MrSquished]

Next president?

You mean the piece of shit who screws over his employees, investors, random strangers, and never pays taxes?
THAT president?

Yep that president. According to exit polls 41% of his voters made under 50K and this regulation would have affected all workers making 47K or less. So 41% of his voters is approximately 20 million. 20 million fools that just voted themselves out of overtime pay by electing a charlatan. Unreal right?

 

[Elixer]

and he makes 25k a year. Since he is "management" he isn't eligible for overtime. He was recently promoted from hourly where he made 16k.

That's some American capitalism for ya,

They are lying to you.
Local manager here makes $79K, and we don't live in a big city.

 

[rh71]

Well OP, what did he go to school to study that relegates him to $25k/year?

 

[dave_the_nerd]

They are lying to you.
Local manager here makes $79K, and we don't live in a big city.

OP didn't say what part of Fedex he worked for.

Assistant Manager pay at Fedex Office started as low as ~$13/hour when I worked there. (Until 2013.)

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Well obviously he just doesn't work hard enough and needs to pull himself up by his bootstraps.
Wait... what?

If the situation in the OP is true, he needs to work smarter, not harder.

Pulling oneself up by the bootstraps involves a good deal of judgment. The job in the OP is fine ... for a limited time and provided its a stepping stone to a better job. If its the peak of the career spectrum . . . time to start looking for how to make money in some other way.

It is amazing to me that so many people are willing to work themselves into the ground at a low paying job when there are plenty of opportunities in the trades to make better money and work less.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Problem is if you're working that many hours you have no time to better yourself. I know people that are in a cycle like that and it's pretty much a living hell. Work work work sleep. Repeat. And those jobs are barely enough to pay the bills. Often you need government assistance on top of it.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

If the situation in the OP is true, he needs to work smarter, not harder.

Pulling oneself up by the bootstraps involves a good deal of judgment. The job in the OP is fine ... for a limited time and provided its a stepping stone to a better job. If its the peak of the career spectrum . . . time to start looking for how to make money in some other way.

It is amazing to me that so many people are willing to work themselves into the ground at a low paying job when there are plenty of opportunities in the trades to make better money and work less.

When the "OMG TRADES" goldrush taps out, the newly-minted welders, mechanics, and electricians will be working retail alongside the STEM grads and the Law School grads who didn't make the cut for the finite number of jobs in their field.

While there's no shortage of dumbasses either, I'm not willing to assume that somebody is one of them just because they work too hard for too little pay.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

When the "OMG TRADES" goldrush taps out, the newly-minted welders, mechanics, and electricians will be working retail alongside the STEM grads and the Law School grads who didn't make the cut for the finite number of jobs in their field.

While there's no shortage of dumbasses either, I'm not willing to assume that somebody is one of them just because they work too hard for too little pay.

Look . . . people do what they do for their own reasons. There is no silver bullet to fix every situation, nor should there be. And there will ALWAYS be people who are underpaid and overworked. My point is that people who are dissatisfied with their lot in life should take steps to change that situation, and stop letting life "happen" to them. If the guy in the OP is happy with his position, fine. Who am I to judge?

But if he is not satisfied with his situation . . . the solution isn't to keep running on the hampster wheel hoping that someone else will get him out of it. There are always opportunities out there. Will finding the right opportunities take some effort? Sure. Will they take some luck? Absolutely. But if you go through life thinking that there are no opportunities because they are not intuitively obvious to you or you are too busy to pursue them, you might as well give up because you have already lost.

Succeeding in the work force is a lot like succeeding in the gym. If you don't put enough of the right effort in, with the right support and/or secondary considerations, you probably won't realize your potential. A trainer can't "make" a person fit, just like the government can't "make" a person successful in the work force.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Look . . . people do what they do for their own reasons. There is no silver bullet to fix every situation, nor should there be. And there will ALWAYS be people who are underpaid and overworked. My point is that people who are dissatisfied with their lot in life should take steps to change that situation, and stop letting life "happen" to them. If the guy in the OP is happy with his position, fine. Who am I to judge?

But if he is not satisfied with his situation . . . the solution isn't to keep running on the hampster wheel hoping that someone else will get him out of it. There are always opportunities out there. Will finding the right opportunities take some effort? Sure. Will they take some luck? Absolutely. But if you go through life thinking that there are no opportunities because they are not intuitively obvious to you or you are too busy to pursue them, you might as well give up because you have already lost.

Succeeding in the work force is a lot like succeeding in the gym. If you don't put enough of the right effort in, with the right support and/or secondary considerations, you probably won't realize your potential. A trainer can't "make" a person fit, just like the government can't "make" a person succeed in the work force.

And like making progress athletically, it takes time.

What government can and should do is make sure that people who feel like they don't have any other option at the moment, or who don't have any opportunities right this second aren't being eaten alive by their jobs. So they have the time and energy to plan and execute their self-improvement.

Also, health insurance. A LOT of people stay in crappy jobs because their kids are on some weird meds or something that cost more than rent.

 

[lupi]

Either some details missing out or those numbers are way off.

 

[brianmanahan]

OP is noticeably absent from this thread...

the ol' troll 'n run

 

[darkswordsman17]

You're right. My point is that the "flyover States" make up the MAJORITY of the country and the ones influencing policy and making laws think their living situation is average when they're at the top.

Your point is senseless because they neither make up the majority of the population or the economic output of the US. That's not to say they aren't a very important part, but you're being equally obtuse if you think they actually represent average America any more than the people on the coasts. You're outright delusional if you think they aren't fully aware that they are not the average.

 

[OutHouse]

Well obviously he just doesn't work hard enough and needs to pull himself up by his bootstraps.

Wait... what?

dude he is working his ass off. probably working harder than you are.

 

[OutHouse]

Nobody in their right mind would work 3 months straight for 25k.

 

[highland145]

And like making progress athletically, it takes time.

What government can and should do is make sure that people who feel like they don't have any other option at the moment, or who don't have any opportunities right this second aren't being eaten alive by their jobs. So they have the time and energy to plan and execute their self-improvement.

Also, health insurance. A LOT of people stay in crappy jobs because their kids are on some weird meds or something that cost more than rent.

So the 1st 18 years was a waste and the government needs to hold their hand a little longer. Sounds like great parenting.

As far as insurance, under the new ACA, I could pay $29.5K out of pocket before insurance pays a dime. Pretty sure I'm subsidizing that guy with the sick kid and crappy job.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

1) It's a "regulation" which the labor department is supposed to enforce, not an actual law. Next president could overturn it.
2) It's been pending for a while because of lawsuits. So it'll be delayed until a couple more court rulings come down, anyway.

Being required to work more without additional compensation is something the GOP is apparently a-okay with.

I agree, it's bullshit. And I don't think it should be limited to < $50k or whatever it is. I think anyone on Salary should be paid time and a half if over 40 hours are worked. Period.

I can only think of ways this can help the economy:
1. Less time spent working. Employers don't (and will not) pay time and a half, so they will be forced for you to stop working at 40 hours. This means you get to spend more time out with friends/family, shopping, buying, being a consumer. If I got out of work at 5:00 every day I would definitely spend more time buying/spending
2. If more work needs to be done after 40 hours that simply means someone else needs to be hired to fill in. More employment = better as well.