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LikeLinus

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Federer really isn't as good as he's made out to be. He's playing against some of the worst comp. It's like the best of the "good", not great.
 

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Federer really isn't as good as he's made out to be. He's playing against some of the worst comp. It's like the best of the "good", not great.

I would contend that he hasn't been himself all year.
 

z0mb13

Lifer
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Federer really isn't as good as he's made out to be. He's playing against some of the worst comp. It's like the best of the "good", not great.

FAIL.

nadal and federer are just simply outclassing ANYONE in the tennis world. they are just that good.

but right now I'm afraid to say that Nadal might actually be better than federer..

the no 1 crown will be handed over soon.
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Federer really isn't as good as he's made out to be. He's playing against some of the worst comp. It's like the best of the "good", not great.

FAIL.

nadal and federer are just simply outclassing ANYONE in the tennis world. they are just that good.

but right now I'm afraid to say that Nadal might actually be better than federer..

the no 1 crown will be handed over soon.

How can it be a "Fail" if it's an opinion? Stupid.

Basically you can name two good players in their day. Take a look at who Sampras defeated.

John McEnroe (Former #1)
Andre Agassi (Former #1)
Ivan Lendl (Former #1)
Jim Courier (Former #1)
Boris Becker (Former #1)
Goran Ivanisevic (Former #2)
Michael Chang (Former #2)
Stefan Edberg (Former #1)
Lleyton Hewitt (Former #1)

So yeah, I really don't think the comp that Federer and Nadal play really make them "great". They are really good players, but I think if you put them against all those great players, they wouldn't have won like they are now.

That's all I'm saying. It's an opinion.
 

Legendary

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Federer really isn't as good as he's made out to be. He's playing against some of the worst comp. It's like the best of the "good", not great.

FAIL.

nadal and federer are just simply outclassing ANYONE in the tennis world. they are just that good.

but right now I'm afraid to say that Nadal might actually be better than federer..

the no 1 crown will be handed over soon.

How can it be a "Fail" if it's an opinion? Stupid.

Basically you can name two good players in their day. Take a look at who Sampras defeated.

John McEnroe (Former #1)
Andre Agassi (Former #1)
Ivan Lendl (Former #1)
Jim Courier (Former #1)
Boris Becker (Former #1)
Goran Ivanisevic (Former #2)
Michael Chang (Former #2)
Stefan Edberg (Former #1)
Lleyton Hewitt (Former #1)

So yeah, I really don't think the comp that Federer and Nadal play really make them "great". They are really good players, but I think if you put them against all those great players, they wouldn't have won like they are now.

That's all I'm saying. It's an opinion.

I'll second this.
In any tournament nowadays, if Nadal is knocked out, you can basically guarantee that Federer will win it.
 

z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Federer really isn't as good as he's made out to be. He's playing against some of the worst comp. It's like the best of the "good", not great.

FAIL.

nadal and federer are just simply outclassing ANYONE in the tennis world. they are just that good.

but right now I'm afraid to say that Nadal might actually be better than federer..

the no 1 crown will be handed over soon.

How can it be a "Fail" if it's an opinion? Stupid.

Basically you can name two good players in their day. Take a look at who Sampras defeated.

John McEnroe (Former #1)
Andre Agassi (Former #1)
Ivan Lendl (Former #1)
Jim Courier (Former #1)
Boris Becker (Former #1)
Goran Ivanisevic (Former #2)
Michael Chang (Former #2)
Stefan Edberg (Former #1)
Lleyton Hewitt (Former #1)

So yeah, I really don't think the comp that Federer and Nadal play really make them "great". They are really good players, but I think if you put them against all those great players, they wouldn't have won like they are now.

That's all I'm saying. It's an opinion.

ok instead of saying FAIL, i will say stupid opinion. like it better? :p
federer beat all these former no 1 or two: sampras, agassi, safin, roddick, hewit, etc.
After roger's rise to prominence, no other players got CLOSE to being number 1. especially after nadal came on the scene as no 2.

Roddick is a great player, also that black dude whose name escape me for some reason.
Roddick won a major before roger became truly great, but after roger is godlike then roddick cant win anymore.
safin was also a major winner.

Roger and nadal are hitting shots that no one could before. They are simply THAT good, so great players just become good players when roger and nadal destroy them
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
Jul 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: z0mb13
ok instead of saying FAIL, i will say stupid opinion. like it better? :p
federer beat all these former no 1 or two: sampras, agassi, safin, roddick, hewit, etc.
After roger's rise to prominence, no other players got CLOSE to being number 1. especially after nadal came on the scene as no 2.

Roddick is a great player, also that black dude whose name escape me for some reason.
Roddick won a major before roger became truly great, but after roger is godlike then roddick cant win anymore.
safin was also a major winner.

Roger and nadal are hitting shots that no one could before. They are simply THAT good, so great players just become good players when roger and nadal destroy them
Major problem here. Most of those players were at the height of their career in the early and mid 90's. Federer played those players on at the end of their careers. Federer was BORN in 81, meaning he was 10 years old when Sampras won his first Tennis Masters Cup. LOL.

Roddick is a good player, but not one of the greats of his time. He's been spotty at best. Some great moments, but he's just not consistent. I think you are thinking about James Blake?
 

JujuFish

Lifer
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Federer really isn't as good as he's made out to be. He's playing against some of the worst comp. It's like the best of the "good", not great.

FAIL.

nadal and federer are just simply outclassing ANYONE in the tennis world. they are just that good.

but right now I'm afraid to say that Nadal might actually be better than federer..

the no 1 crown will be handed over soon.

How can it be a "Fail" if it's an opinion? Stupid.

Basically you can name two good players in their day. Take a look at who Sampras defeated.

John McEnroe (Former #1)
Andre Agassi (Former #1)
Ivan Lendl (Former #1)
Jim Courier (Former #1)
Boris Becker (Former #1)
Goran Ivanisevic (Former #2)
Michael Chang (Former #2)
Stefan Edberg (Former #1)
Lleyton Hewitt (Former #1)

So yeah, I really don't think the comp that Federer and Nadal play really make them "great". They are really good players, but I think if you put them against all those great players, they wouldn't have won like they are now.

That's all I'm saying. It's an opinion.
And who was it that broke Sampras' Wimbledon streak of 31 straight wins and 4 consecutive championships in 2001?
 

hdeck

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Legendary
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Federer really isn't as good as he's made out to be. He's playing against some of the worst comp. It's like the best of the "good", not great.

FAIL.

nadal and federer are just simply outclassing ANYONE in the tennis world. they are just that good.

but right now I'm afraid to say that Nadal might actually be better than federer..

the no 1 crown will be handed over soon.

How can it be a "Fail" if it's an opinion? Stupid.

Basically you can name two good players in their day. Take a look at who Sampras defeated.

John McEnroe (Former #1)
Andre Agassi (Former #1)
Ivan Lendl (Former #1)
Jim Courier (Former #1)
Boris Becker (Former #1)
Goran Ivanisevic (Former #2)
Michael Chang (Former #2)
Stefan Edberg (Former #1)
Lleyton Hewitt (Former #1)

So yeah, I really don't think the comp that Federer and Nadal play really make them "great". They are really good players, but I think if you put them against all those great players, they wouldn't have won like they are now.

That's all I'm saying. It's an opinion.

I'll second this.
In any tournament nowadays, if Nadal is knocked out, you can basically guarantee that Federer will win it.

i guess you missed some of the tournaments earlier this year then, lol. that wasn't the case at all.
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
Jul 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
And who was it that broke Sampras' Wimbledon streak of 31 straight wins and 4 consecutive championships in 2001?

Who retired the following year and who was just starting their career?

Come on people, atleast have intelligent replies.
 

hdeck

Lifer
Sep 26, 2002
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: z0mb13
ok instead of saying FAIL, i will say stupid opinion. like it better? :p
federer beat all these former no 1 or two: sampras, agassi, safin, roddick, hewit, etc.
After roger's rise to prominence, no other players got CLOSE to being number 1. especially after nadal came on the scene as no 2.

Roddick is a great player, also that black dude whose name escape me for some reason.
Roddick won a major before roger became truly great, but after roger is godlike then roddick cant win anymore.
safin was also a major winner.

Roger and nadal are hitting shots that no one could before. They are simply THAT good, so great players just become good players when roger and nadal destroy them
Major problem here. Most of those players were at the height of their career in the early and mid 90's. Federer played those players on at the end of their careers. Federer was BORN in 81, meaning he was 10 years old when Sampras won his first Tennis Masters Cup. LOL.

Roddick is a good player, but not one of the greats of his time. He's been spotty at best. Some great moments, but he's just not consistent. I think you are thinking about James Blake?

and you think sampras beat all those old #1s when they were in their primes? lol come on now.
 

z0mb13

Lifer
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wow nadal is probably the best ball striker ever.. his strength is just amazing.. he can hit shots from all weird positions