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FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama admn approved nuclear deal

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Maxima1 said:
I'm not talking about the Uranium deal as if Hillary had a scheme going on. I'm talking about the legal aspect of what constitutes pay-to-play. For example, SA gave the foundation a lot of money and then stopped around the time she became Sec of State. But the distinction between past donations and future ones seems a bit blurred. I know the Clintons are smart enough to go by the bounds of the law. But it doesn't mean anything isn't shady because of it. I find it funny, for example, that somehow Menendez did something "wrong", yet according to Citizens United and McCutcheon they've legalized bribery?
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One of the things I liked about HRC is that, if I was concerned about corruption, I could go review her publicly available tax returns and other financials for any evidence of it.
 
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brandonbull said:
Just another notch in the Democrats working with the Russians belt which gets translated into Liberal speak as: "Trump colluded with the Russians."
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Who cares about the Russians when the President of the United States attacks the Constitution on a daily basis?
 
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edcoolio said:
Here is a thought exercise:

Look-up "Joseph McCarthy", who ran as both a Democrat and Republican in his political career.

Replace the word "Communist" with "Russian", and the year to 2016.

Time to find a new political assassination playbook for both parties and stop copying the old ones. Just sayin'
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Speaking of changing playbooks, the whole Milo-bot/alt-right free speech thing kinda took a shit when their Dear Leader started attacking the 1st amendment on Twitter every day. Just saying.
 
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OutHouse said:
So far, there is actually more evidence that the Obama Administration and the Clintons "colluded" with Russia than there is evidence of Trump campaign collusion.
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So you're perfectly ok with the fact that Trump colluded with the Russians as long as that collusion was somehow less than Obama's or the Clintons?
And this is why I hate whataboutism. "My guy is just as bad as your guy which makes my guy better." Idiot.
 
OutHouse said:
So far, there is actually more evidence that the Obama Administration and the Clintons "colluded" with Russia than there is evidence of Trump campaign collusion.
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Is that right next to the "evidence" that Donald Trump is a decent human being or the "evidence" he is fit to be president?
 
Jhhnn said:
All jumbled up in your head, huh? I do like how you can frame an assertion as a question, like how the Russians supposedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation. You need to show that it happened. Links & all that. I know it's sooo inconvenient & unfair...

The uranium mined by Russian subsidiaries is not being shipped out of this country-



http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

But, please, do go on...
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I don't think Kazakhstan has the same restrictions on exporting, and they produce many more times the uranium than the US does.
 
Vic said:
So you're perfectly ok with the fact that Trump colluded with the Russians as long as that collusion was somehow less than Obama's or the Clintons?
And this is why I hate whataboutism. "My guy is just as bad as your guy which makes my guy better." Idiot.
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There is more evidence that Clinton colluded with the Ukrainians than Trump colluded with the Russians. As far as Russian/foreign collusion goes, seems like any real evidence is pointing to the Dems and not Trump.
 
brandonbull said:
There is more evidence that Clinton colluded with the Ukrainians than Trump colluded with the Russians. As far as Russian/foreign collusion goes, seems like any real evidence is pointing to the Dems and not Trump.
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Right over your head, eh?

Suppose, if you will, a murder is committed by 2 killers, do we let the 2nd one get off because the other fired first?
You see, the real world doesn't exist within your bipartisan false dilemma. If both of them colluded with the Russians unlawfully, then both should fry for it.
 
UberNeuman said:
lol... Trump is going to be impeached.
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That all depends on what happens next November. If the Democrats keep being stupid and fighting amongst themselves (over what should be long term goals) rather than focusing on the threat in the present, then I'm expecting 8 years of corruption and abuse of power, with useful idiots still saying, "but Hillary," in 2024.
 
Vic said:
That all depends on what happens next November. If the Democrats keep being stupid and fighting amongst themselves (over what should be long term goals) rather than focusing on the threat in the present, then I'm expecting 8 years of corruption and abuse of power, with useful idiots still saying, "but Hillary," in 2024.
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Once the Muller juggernaut drops its mega-bomb all bets are off the table. Trump will be lucky to finish a first term - or get Nixon'ed into the next term should he win re-election. Either way, he's getting impeached or facing time with his NY ties.
 
UberNeuman said:
Once the Muller juggernaut drops its mega-bomb all bets are off the table. Trump will be lucky to finish a first term - or get Nixon'ed into the next term should he win re-election. Either way, he's getting impeached or facing time with his NY ties.
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I would advise against excess optimism in that regard. By that I mean, Muller could deliver the mother of all mega-bombs tomorrow, complete with undeniable video evidence of Trump pissing on the flag while wiping his ass with the Constitution while gunning someone down in the middle of 5th avenue, and his supporters would still call it fake news.
You want to win this? It'll have to be at the ballot box.
 
UberNeuman said:
Once the Muller juggernaut drops its mega-bomb all bets are off the table. Trump will be lucky to finish a first term - or get Nixon'ed into the next term should he win re-election. Either way, he's getting impeached or facing time with his NY ties.
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That mega-bomb is not going to fall on Trump's head. Obama and his underlings better be looking for non extradition countries.
 
Vic said:
I would advise against excess optimism in that regard. By that I mean, Muller could deliver the mother of all mega-bombs tomorrow, complete with undeniable video evidence of Trump pissing on the flag while wiping his ass with the Constitution while gunning someone down in the middle of 5th avenue, and his supporters would still call it fake news.
You want to win this? It'll have to be at the ballot box.
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Oh, I agree. It will be at the ballot box that voices the decision. I have no interest in bickering with Trump cult members anymore. These people have shown they are against what we should be as Americans, and they will just keep repeating the same empty accusations and rampant paranoid that consumes their dull and meaningless lives. The loony Koch boys, the racists, and the Evangelical crowd are their base... You can't reason with dishonest people.

See Comrade Stupid above me. Keeps repeating the same nonsense over and over again - like a chimp banging on the glass for its next Krockodile fix. Sad.

*and see below me... lol....
 
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Vic said:
One of the things I liked about HRC is that, if I was concerned about corruption, I could go review her publicly available tax returns and other financials for any evidence of it.
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and you really think she would admit to corruption in her taxes? how dumb do you think she is?
 
IronWing said:
A point which makes the whole "Russia bribed Clinton to obtain U.S. uranium" story ridiculous.
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Not to mention the time line of donations claimed to be the influencing donations were made a couple of years before Clinton even knew she'd be tapped for SoS.
 
brandonbull said:
There is more evidence that Clinton colluded with the Ukrainians than Trump colluded with the Russians. As far as Russian/foreign collusion goes, seems like any real evidence is pointing to the Dems and not Trump.
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And that evidence is what, exactly? Link us up.
 
While Hilbot was SOS, "russian nuclear officials" donated millions to the Clinton Foundation

To do what, exactly?

Fight AIDS?

GMAFB
 
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