FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama admn approved nuclear deal

[IronWing]

The FBI has some evidence about Clinton ,Russians, and bribes. The US only produces ~2% of world uranium production, but Kazakhstan produces much much more and that was the real target.

This folks, was the the big shift. Forget the demonstrated nonsense Mr. Bull provided in proceeding posts; we have a new story line to follow.

 

[woolfe9998]

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[Jhhnn]

People still trying to popular vote excuse I see. If that is what mattered, they both would have ran differently. They both knew the rules, that is what they went by. It is a little funny that Hillary is all about how you must take the election results, now doesn't want to. The left trying to take out the electoral process.



If none of this bothers the people claiming that this isn't a big deal, then you do not have any ground to stand on anything Trump/Russia related. It at least warrants looking into, dismissing it as it is nothing short of bias and shortsighted.

Who are you quoting?

 

[Jhhnn]

This folks, was the the big shift. Forget the demonstrated nonsense Mr. Bull provided in proceeding posts; we have a new story line to follow.

He might actually be catching on. Not likely, but it's possible.

 

[UberNeuman]

Who are you quoting?

The voices in his head.

 

[Jhhnn]

I do love all the hoopla & innuendo. What the FBI knew about Mikerin & the no bid/ kickback arrangement he made with the American trucking company is that he was stealing from his own company, Tenam, a subsidiary of Tenex, a subsidiary of Rosatom. He laundered the $2m thru offshore shell companies in Cyprus, Latvia & Switzerland.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/form...-48-months-prison-money-laundering-conspiracy

There is no evidence offered that greater malfeasance was afoot at the time. Making it bigger than that is pure speculation.

The deal with Uranium One was with an entirely different subsidiary of Rosatom, ARMZ. In that, ARMZ actually paid too much, contrary to what "analysts" said at the time, given what's happened to the price of uranium since then. Stockholders profited handsomely when they sold to ARMZ. The whole deal was up into the $B & completely unrelated to Mikeren's thievery.

http://www.mining.com/uranium-one-being-taken-private-for-1-3-b-by-russian-firm-75587/

http://www.afr.com/business/mining/...ces-descend-beyond-decade-low-20160705-gpyupv

The whole thing is Benghazi/Buttery males all over again.

 

[Maxima1]

I don't think you know what "revolving door" means.

Why don't you just spell out your point? You act like it's not bad or that nothing can be done about it.

 

[Maxima1]

Seriously, fuck you and your both sides bullshit.

Hillary also won moderates by 11 points so that blows away your other bullshit theory.

Don't look now, Democrats are taking a losing position yet again.🙄

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nc-reshuffle-has-some-worrying-about-a-purge/

I've mentioned this before about how the DNC blows the money inefficiently on these grossly overpaid consultants. What baffles me is only two people can see the budget. Now that some are clamoring for the executive committee to see it as well, they are purging those left who supported Ellison. Now it's all Clinton people.

Oh, and here they go again hiding behind identity politics defending their choices (picking minorities etc. who backed Clinton), while eliminating the diversity of ideas.

 

[ivwshane]

Why don't you just spell out your point? You act like it's not bad or that nothing can be done about it.

I did spell it out for you and you didn't understand it the first time, what makes you think you'll get it a second time?

 

[ivwshane]

Don't look now, Democrats are taking a losing position yet again.🙄

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nc-reshuffle-has-some-worrying-about-a-purge/

I've mentioned this before about how the DNC blows the money inefficiently on these grossly overpaid consultants. What baffles me is only two people can see the budget. Now that some are clamoring for the executive committee to see it as well, they are purging those left who supported Ellison. Now it's all Clinton people.

Oh, and here they go again hiding behind identity politics defending their choices (picking minorities etc. who backed Clinton), while eliminating the diversity of ideas.

I'm not sure what the DNC's incompetence has to do with the post I was responding to.

 

[Maxima1]

I did spell it out for you and you didn't understand it the first time, what makes you think you'll get it a second time?

You said I didn't understand "revolving door". And?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolving_door_(politics)

I'm not sure what the DNC's incompetence has to do with the post I was responding to.

The person you quoted mentioned PC and corporate connections. I think that's a large part of what's holding D's behind. Democrats are beholden to donors and they use identity politics to divert from discussion of reforms that would hurt those donors. This article illustrated both.

When you say "incompetence", you mean corruption. It's about the money. They don't care about the risks if the budget is ****. BTW, it's funny how you say "DNC incompetence" when Obama ignored the DNC for 8 years even after the 2010 shellacking and only now is going on a rally for the legislature. But it's all BS because nothing has changed. Hillary Onward Together was also a sham.

 

[ivwshane]

You said I didn't understand "revolving door". And?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolving_door_(politics)



The person you quoted mentioned PC and corporate connections. I think that's a large part of what's holding D's behind. Democrats are beholden to donors and they use identity politics to divert from discussion of reforms that would hurt those donors. This article illustrated both.

When you say "incompetence", you mean corruption. It's about the money. They don't care about the risks if the budget is ****. BTW, it's funny how you say "DNC incompetence" when Obama ignored the DNC for 8 years even after the 2010 shellacking and only now is going on a rally for the legislature. But it's all BS because nothing has changed. Hillary Onward Together was also a sham.

No I meant incompetence which is why I used that word. Do you not understand how English works?

 

[Jhhnn]

Don't look now, Democrats are taking a losing position yet again.🙄

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nc-reshuffle-has-some-worrying-about-a-purge/

I've mentioned this before about how the DNC blows the money inefficiently on these grossly overpaid consultants. What baffles me is only two people can see the budget. Now that some are clamoring for the executive committee to see it as well, they are purging those left who supported Ellison. Now it's all Clinton people.

Oh, and here they go again hiding behind identity politics defending their choices (picking minorities etc. who backed Clinton), while eliminating the diversity of ideas.

Your off topic concern trolling is duly noted.

 

[Maxima1]

No I meant incompetence which is why I used that word. Do you not understand how English works?

It's something they're doing purposely, so it's not incompetence.

 

[fskimospy]

You said I didn't understand "revolving door". And?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolving_door_(politics)

The person you quoted mentioned PC and corporate connections. I think that's a large part of what's holding D's behind. Democrats are beholden to donors and they use identity politics to divert from discussion of reforms that would hurt those donors. This article illustrated both.

When you say "incompetence", you mean corruption. It's about the money. They don't care about the risks if the budget is ****. BTW, it's funny how you say "DNC incompetence" when Obama ignored the DNC for 8 years even after the 2010 shellacking and only now is going on a rally for the legislature. But it's all BS because nothing has changed. Hillary Onward Together was also a sham.

Nobody but former Bernie supporters cares about the DNC. Most people don't even know what it is. Contrary to what Bernie supporters try and tell themselves it had no effect on the outcome of the primary, which Clinton won by millions of votes.

If you're really interested in promoting candidates like Sanders you need to look into why he lost, not find excuses.

 

[zinfamous]

This is good. We need to completely halt the expansive Mueller investigation with the ~half dozen? grand juries until this real plot, this truly evil Demo-Russian conspiracy can be fully investigated. Both sides! the real truth! We need a dozen or more senate hearings, despite a total lack of evidence, dragging in so-called witnesses to make a very nice public show of "something that must be true because I see it on the TV over and over and of course I trust these specific handful of congressmen even though in the same breath I claim that they are all liars and the government is evil" type of events....for the next 7 years, hopefully.

Because that's what this country needs. No more law, no more actual investigations. We need to make sure the pros stop doing their jobs because you know it's only my feels that matter, and that is all the evidence I need to know a crook when I see one! /the Theocratic Republican Terrorist party, c. 2009-present

 

[Maxima1]

Nobody but former Bernie supporters cares about the DNC. Most people don't even know what it is. Contrary to what Bernie supporters try and tell themselves it had no effect on the outcome of the primary, which Clinton won by millions of votes.

So nobody should care about DNC then? Wut? Why are they so hell-bent on purging anyone that's progressive?

I'm not sure why you decided to bring up Bernie when I was discussing the patronage system. The DNC has been ignoring local/state level because the budget is focused on the presidency (what the consultants want) and inefficiently at that.

If you're really interested in promoting candidates like Sanders you need to look into why he lost, not find excuses.

It's funny because a lot of you think Hillary was so grand because of her experience and public record, yet it looks like the Democrats are coalescing around Kamala Harris. She's black and female on top so even harder for progressives to criticize. I can't judge her completely yet, though, but it looks like the playbook may be female Obama hope & change.

 

[fskimospy]

So nobody should care about DNC then? Wut? Why are they so hell-bent on purging anyone that's progressive?

Nobody is hell-bent on that. Weird paranoia on your part.

I'm not sure why you decided to bring up Bernie when I was discussing the patronage system. The DNC has been ignoring local/state level because the budget is focused on the presidency (what the consultants want) and inefficiently at that.

That's because the primary purpose of the DNC is the presidency and development of the party platform. I'm not sure why you're mad at the DNC for doing what the DNC was created to do. There are state and local committees whose job it is to focus on the state and local level.

It's funny because a lot of you think Hillary was so grand because of her experience and public record, yet it looks like the Democrats are coalescing around Kamala Harris. She's black and female on top so even harder for progressives to criticize. I can't judge her completely yet, though, but it looks like the playbook may be female Obama hope & change.

I don't really care about who people are thinking about nominating three years from now.

 

[brandonbull]

This is good. We need to completely halt the expansive Mueller investigation with the ~half dozen? grand juries until this real plot, this truly evil Demo-Russian conspiracy can be fully investigated. Both sides! the real truth! We need a dozen or more senate hearings, despite a total lack of evidence, dragging in so-called witnesses to make a very nice public show of "something that must be true because I see it on the TV over and over and of course I trust these specific handful of congressmen even though in the same breath I claim that they are all liars and the government is evil" type of events....for the next 7 years, hopefully.

Because that's what this country needs. No more law, no more actual investigations. We need to make sure the pros stop doing their jobs because you know it's only my feels that matter, and that is all the evidence I need to know a crook when I see one! /the Theocratic Republican Terrorist party, c. 2009-present

I guess the actual evidence collected by the FBI is no good, but some unverified dossier financed by Fusion GPS is the source of truth.

 

[Thebobo]

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/clinton-foundation/478
Compared to most charities, the Clinton foundation looks very transparent and honest.

But Benghazi!

 

[zinfamous]

I guess the actual evidence collected by the FBI is no good, but some unverified dossier financed by Fusion GPS is the source of truth.

lol. you think that's the only source of evidence for Mueller/FBI's extensive Trump family investigation. You poor, gaslighted child.

Yeah, that's the kind of evidence that you convene half a dozen grand juries for.

idiot.

 

[Maxima1]

Nobody is hell-bent on that. Weird paranoia on your part.

I just posted an article on how they're targeting the Ellison people and hiding the budget from anyone who won't be just a prop.

Establishment Democrats hate progressives. In fact, I would go as far as saying many would be fine with Trumpism in a lot of ways because of their embrace of neoliberalism.

That's because the primary purpose of the DNC is the presidency and development of the party platform. I'm not sure why you're mad at the DNC for doing what the DNC was created to do. There are state and local committees whose job it is to focus on the state and local level.

Yeah, they're not funding the DLCC. And Obama ignored the DNC while leading us to 1000 losses. It's really pathetic how close Republicans are to unilaterally changing the Constitution to whatever they want. Even discounting that, your queen Broom Hilda bashed the DNC for her loss. I think there's a point to what was said, though. It's patronage and no longer provides services.

"I get the nomination. So I'm now the nominee of the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party," Clinton said Wednesday. "I mean, it was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. I had to inject money into it."

 

[Jhhnn]

I just posted an article on how they're targeting the Ellison people and hiding the budget from anyone who won't be just a prop.

Establishment Democrats hate progressives. In fact, I would go as far as saying many would be fine with Trumpism in a lot of ways because of their embrace of neoliberalism.



Yeah, they're not funding the DLCC. And Obama ignored the DNC while leading us to 1000 losses. It's really pathetic how close Republicans are to unilaterally changing the Constitution to whatever they want. Even discounting that, your queen Broom Hilda bashed the DNC for her loss. I think there's a point to what was said, though. It's patronage and no longer provides services.

"I get the nomination. So I'm now the nominee of the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party," Clinton said Wednesday. "I mean, it was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. I had to inject money into it."

That's the same sort of attack that worked so well against Clinton, isn't it? You're assigning scurrilous motive to events when you don't know enough about it to do anything else. It's just the usual faux-progressive concern trolling.

 

[fskimospy]

I just posted an article on how they're targeting the Ellison people and hiding the budget from anyone who won't be just a prop.

Establishment Democrats hate progressives. In fact, I would go as far as saying many would be fine with Trumpism in a lot of ways because of their embrace of neoliberalism.

This is baffling in so many ways. First, one of the founding principles of neoliberalism is free trade, something Trump hates. I've found most people who use the term neoliberalism don't understand what it is and instead use it as a proxy for 'things I don't like'.

More importantly though the way you behave here with the constant demonization of those you disagree with and hazy relationship with facts reminds me a lot more of Trump than any establishment Democrat.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Bill Clinton sought State’s permission to meet with Russian nuclear official during Obama uranium decision

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...tates-permission-to-meet-with-russian-nuclear

As he prepared to collect a $500,000 payday in Moscow in 2010, Bill Clinton sought clearance from the State Department to meet with a key board director of the Russian nuclear energy firm Rosatom — which at the time needed the Obama administration’s approval for a controversial uranium deal, government records show.

Arkady Dvorkovich, a top aide to then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev and one of the highest-ranking government officials to serve on Rosatom’s board of supervisors, was listed on a May 14, 2010, email as one of 15 Russians the former president wanted to meet during a late June 2010 trip, the documents show.