FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama admn approved nuclear deal

[JSt0rm]

Bill Clinton sought State’s permission to meet with Russian nuclear official during Obama uranium decision

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...tates-permission-to-meet-with-russian-nuclear

As he prepared to collect a $500,000 payday in Moscow in 2010, Bill Clinton sought clearance from the State Department to meet with a key board director of the Russian nuclear energy firm Rosatom — which at the time needed the Obama administration’s approval for a controversial uranium deal, government records show.

Arkady Dvorkovich, a top aide to then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev and one of the highest-ranking government officials to serve on Rosatom’s board of supervisors, was listed on a May 14, 2010, email as one of 15 Russians the former president wanted to meet during a late June 2010 trip, the documents show.

And trups kids didnt even ask state for permission to meet with the russians. hmmmm

 

[brandonbull]

And trups kids didnt even ask state for permission to meet with the russians. hmmmm

And why were they meeting again?

 

[fskimospy]

Bill Clinton sought State’s permission to meet with Russian nuclear official during Obama uranium decision

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...tates-permission-to-meet-with-russian-nuclear

As he prepared to collect a $500,000 payday in Moscow in 2010, Bill Clinton sought clearance from the State Department to meet with a key board director of the Russian nuclear energy firm Rosatom — which at the time needed the Obama administration’s approval for a controversial uranium deal, government records show.

Arkady Dvorkovich, a top aide to then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev and one of the highest-ranking government officials to serve on Rosatom’s board of supervisors, was listed on a May 14, 2010, email as one of 15 Russians the former president wanted to meet during a late June 2010 trip, the documents show.

Nothing shows intent to subvert the law and corruptly get a deal passed like making a public record of your request for meetings with foreign officials.

Even more deviously he didn't even end up meeting with them, hahaha.

 

[UglyCasanova]

So why would he try and meet with them

 

[ivwshane]

So why would he try and meet with them

Because he was going to do a paid speech.

 

[IronWing]

So why would he try and meet with them

To provide you, years later, with a distraction from Congress preparing to hand trillions in tax shelters to the rich.

 

[fskimospy]

So why would he try and meet with them

You can't be serious. For the second time in this thread alone you're asking questions that are answered by your own links:

Documents show Bill Clinton’s personal lawyer on April 5, 2010, sent a conflict of interest review to the State Department asking for permission to give the speech in late June, and it was approved two days later.

The Clinton friend said the former president’s office then began assembling a list of requests to meet with Russian business and government executives whom he could meet on the trip. One of the goals of the trip was to try to help a Clinton family relative “grow investments in their business with Russian oligarchs and other businesses,” the friend told The Hill.

This obsession with the Clintons is getting pretty weird. You seem very convinced that there's some sort of corruption here despite literally zero evidence for it. As I've asked in the past can you maybe draw up some sort of general chain of events that you think happened? My guess is you can't.

 

[Maxima1]

That's the same sort of attack that worked so well against Clinton, isn't it? You're assigning scurrilous motive to events when you don't know enough about it to do anything else. It's just the usual faux-progressive concern trolling.

Explain it then. No company would have one person looking at the budget, and taking out the Ellison people for props to keep the patronage going is sleazy. Just stating the facts on Obama as well. He established OFA and ignored DNC and didn't do diddly for local/state for all of his terms. Hell, state Dems have called OFA Obama's shadow party.

This is baffling in so many ways. First, one of the founding principles of neoliberalism is free trade, something Trump hates. I've found most people who use the term neoliberalism don't understand what it is and instead use it as a proxy for 'things I don't like'.

I didn't say all of it. And you want to talk about baffling? Look at Feinstein's statements on Trump: "Trump will serve full term bla bla ad nauseam". Democrats always play loser while Republicans always fight ferociously for whatever they want. I voted for her last time, but she needs to be kicked out.

More importantly though the way you behave here with the constant demonization of those you disagree with and hazy relationship with facts reminds me a lot more of Trump than any establishment Democrat.

lol You guys say I'm right-wing and similar drivel when I can point to areas where I'm more liberal whereas you co-opt previous GOP positions before they lurched into more extreme territory.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Is that an adequate answer? He's looking for money from Russian oligarchs at a time when his wife has influence over a potential deal? Does that not look like corruption to you?

 

[fskimospy]

Is that an adequate answer? He's looking for money from Russian oligarchs at a time when his wife has influence over a potential deal? Does that not look like corruption to you?

He made the request through the State Department as part of a public record and then ended up not meeting with them. That is about the dumbest way to engage in corruption I could possibly think of.

You are now yet again insinuating corruption so I'm going to make yet another request for even a basic outline of you are alleging as you simply cannot get around the fact that State was one of 13 agencies that signed off on this deal and so this elaborate plan to bribe Hillary Clinton is entirely pointless unless you've got all the other agencies on the take too.

So, Bill Clinton goes and gets paid for a speech and then meets with this Russian official. Does he then go back home and ask Hillary to approve the uranium deal? If so, did she then pressure the people in State who made the decision to do so as we know she didn't make the decision herself? Did she then go and strong arm the 13 other agencies that signed off on it? Did the Russians bribe all of them too? What?

Just give us an even REMOTELY plausible theory of how this occurred instead of trying to cling to some 'there's a cloud' thing like the media did with the Clinton Foundation before the election. Surely that's not too much to ask.

 

[fskimospy]

I didn't say all of it. And you want to talk about baffling? Look at Feinstein's statements on Trump: "Trump will serve full term bla bla ad nauseam". Democrats always play loser while Republicans always fight ferociously for whatever they want. I voted for her last time, but she needs to be kicked out.

lol You guys say I'm right-wing and similar drivel when I can point to areas where I'm more liberal whereas you co-opt previous GOP positions before they lurched into more extreme territory.

I didn't say you were right wing, I said you were Trumpist. (Trump is not particularly ideological) You have extreme tribalist stances on things as shown by the Feinstein quote that has so enraged you. You demonize your opponents to an extreme and disturbing level. You don't particularly care about facts. That's what Trumpism is. This post is a great example of it and it's funny to me that you hate Trump so much when you're so similar to him.

 

[UglyCasanova]

FBI informant blocked from telling Congress about Russia nuclear corruption case, lawyer says

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...ed-from-telling-congress-about-russia-nuclear

An American businessman who worked for years undercover as an FBI confidential witness was blocked by the Obama Justice Department from telling Congress about conversations and transactions he witnessed related to the Russian nuclear industry's efforts to win favor with Bill and Hillary Clinton and influence Obama administration decisions, his lawyer tells The Hill.

 

[Maxima1]

I didn't say you were right wing, I said you were Trumpist. (Trump is not particularly ideological) You have extreme tribalist stances on things as shown by the Feinstein quote that has so enraged you. You demonize your opponents to an extreme and disturbing level. You don't particularly care about facts. That's what Trumpism is. This post is a great example of it and it's funny to me that you hate Trump so much when you're so similar to him.

You say I don't care about facts but you haven't rebutted what I said. You incorrectly act as if DNC can't funnel money to state parties or that there wasn't a problem with funding.

Feinstein has stated something similar to that numerous times. It's a joke and just normalizes Trumpism. She also is very lukewarm on Citizens United and other high priority things and the reason is obvious.

If I have to criticize you, you seem to defend Democrat establishment in the same way you insinuate I do.

 

[fskimospy]

It's interesting to see the right wing media whipping itself up into a frenzy about this. I did a quick google search and Breitbart, the Daily Caller, etc, are absolutely incandescent with rage. What's weird is that when this turns out to be another Benghazi/Vince Foster/whatever there will be zero introspection, they will just convince themselves that they were right but the devious Clintons escaped yet again.

Meanwhile Trump is hand picking the federal prosecutors who would potentially prosecute him, his family/administration, or his major business interests. Somehow that kind of blatant corruption doesn't even merit a mention. lol. Partisanship is a hell of a drug.

 

[JSt0rm]

And why were they meeting again?

we dont know because they didnt clear it with state. See how that works?

 

[Jhhnn]

Bill Clinton sought State’s permission to meet with Russian nuclear official during Obama uranium decision

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...tates-permission-to-meet-with-russian-nuclear

As he prepared to collect a $500,000 payday in Moscow in 2010, Bill Clinton sought clearance from the State Department to meet with a key board director of the Russian nuclear energy firm Rosatom — which at the time needed the Obama administration’s approval for a controversial uranium deal, government records show.

Arkady Dvorkovich, a top aide to then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev and one of the highest-ranking government officials to serve on Rosatom’s board of supervisors, was listed on a May 14, 2010, email as one of 15 Russians the former president wanted to meet during a late June 2010 trip, the documents show.

More magnificent nothingburger-

Aides to the ex-president, Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation said Bill Clinton did not have any conversations about Rosatom or the Uranium One deal while in Russia, and that no one connected to the deal was involved in the trip.

It's telling that you have to divert from the nothingburger story into more nothingburgrer attacks. Clinton asked for something that never happpened & that's a big fucking deal? Really?

WTF does Bill Clinton's tirp to Russia have to do with Mikeren stealing $2M from his own company back in the US?

Cuz OMFG! Uranium! or what?

 

[Jhhnn]

It's interesting to see the right wing media whipping itself up into a frenzy about this. I did a quick google search and Breitbart, the Daily Caller, etc, are absolutely incandescent with rage. What's weird is that when this turns out to be another Benghazi/Vince Foster/whatever there will be zero introspection, they will just convince themselves that they were right but the devious Clintons escaped yet again.

Meanwhile Trump is hand picking the federal prosecutors who would potentially prosecute him, his family/administration, or his major business interests. Somehow that kind of blatant corruption doesn't even merit a mention. lol. Partisanship is a hell of a drug.

I already laid it out at #231, above. The FBI somehow gets a line on a bribery/ kickback/ money laundering scheme run by Mikeren. He's stealing from his employer, Tenam, a licensed corporation. They're the victim. That's who the FBI & the DoJ are obligated to protect, and they do. It all has jack shit to do with the pending sale of Uranium One. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. It's just garden variety criminality & they treat it as such. It's also an ongoing investigation in 2010 & they don't want to tip the perps.

Too simple. Too easy. Too honest. Needs more Benghazi & by God the right wing noise machine intends to deliver.

 

[Jhhnn]

And why were they meeting again?

The Trump Kids? Junior said he was there for collusion but the Russians didn't give him anything so it's all A-OK.

 

[fskimospy]

I already laid it out at #231, above. The FBI somehow gets a line on a bribery/ kickback/ money laundering scheme run by Mikeren. He's stealing from his employer, Tenam, a licensed corporation. They're the victim. That's who the FBI & the DoJ are obligated to protect, and they do. It all has jack shit to do with the pending sale of Uranium One. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. It's just garden variety criminality & they treat it as such. It's also an ongoing investigation in 2010 & they don't want to tip the perps.

Too simple. Too easy. Too honest. Needs more Benghazi & by God the right wing noise machine intends to deliver.

That seems reasonable.

What I think is so telling here is that UC keeps saying 'doesn't that sound like corruption???' and then when asked to describe what corruption it is adamantly refuses to.

He's basically pulling the whole DSF 'who, me?' thing.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I've asked multiple times in this thread why the Clinton Foundation would be receiving millions from Russian nuclear officials, you've yet to answer.

 

[Victorian Gray]

And the distraction efforts continue. Trump who?

 

[Jhhnn]

I've asked multiple times in this thread why the Clinton Foundation would be receiving millions from Russian nuclear officials, you've yet to answer.

Still thrashing around off topic about something that apparently didn't happen other than in the fevered conspiracy theory addled brains of conservatives.

 

[UglyCasanova]

So what's the answer?

 

[Victorian Gray]

So what's the answer?

The answer is at the pizza shop.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Ah a dodge. Works for me