FBI reopens investigation into Clinton email use

[zinfamous]

Another thing to keep in mind is that if you look at countries with significantly lower tax burdens than the US, you see a bunch of places most of us would rather not be. But hey, I guess if a low tax burden is all that matters, conservatives shouldn't mind moving to places like Chad, Burma or Nigeria.

Yup. I was going to make that point earlier but I get tired of searching for that table every time I hear this "taxed enough already!" nonsense. lol. Perspective: so few have it. so few appreciate what they have and what they get.

OTOH, your table says that Norway and Denmark have the highest tax burden the world. Yet Norway typically ranks first in the Human Development Index, indicating the highest standard of living in the entire world. IIRC Denmark is also typically in the top 5.

If further bolsters the situation in the US, imo. You compare Scandinavia and then look at what we manage to achieve with our astonishingly cheap tax burden--from a historical and current world-economic perspective--and the only argument to make is that we get amazing value for our "deplorably" cheap tax basis in this country.

 

[theeedude]

Is somebody still arguing that trickle down tax cuts work?
With a straight face?

 

[fskimospy]

Not does it become a crime because you wish it did.

It's kind of amazing. They are certain she committed some crime. When it turns out that the FBI says they are wrong they don't change their minds, they just decide the FBI is part of the conspiracy.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's kind of amazing. They are certain she committed some crime. When it turns out that the FBI says they are wrong they don't change their minds, they just decide the FBI is part of the conspiracy.

"Maybe I was mistaken" is a concept they can't entertain under any circumstances.

 

[theeedude]

Comey is going to give Hillary another clean bill of health this week. Fox is already transitioning to WikiLeaks to distract attention from that.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Uh oh:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press...anges-classified-information-unsecure-server/

 

[DrDoug]

There sure seems to be some sensitivity among conservatives about Russia this year:

FBI Director James Comey argued privately that it was too close to Election Day for the United States government to name Russia as meddling in the U.S. election and ultimately ensured that the FBI’s name was not on the document that the U.S. government put out, a former FBI official tells CNBC.

The official said some government insiders are perplexed as to why Comey would have election timing concerns with the Russian disclosure but not with the Huma Abedin email discovery disclosure he made Friday.

This is from a CNBC story I tripped across. What is this Republican tippy-toeing around all things Russian? Now the head of the FBI, a conservative, didn't want Russia named as the ones meddling in our electoral process and yet he thought disclosing the discovery of the emails right before the election was just fine.

There are too many things going on that are just outright strange when it comes to Republicans and Russia...

 

[UglyCasanova]

Damn I thought Trumpsters wore the tin foil hats lol. McCarthy would be proud of y'all!

 

[FelixDeCat]

Comey is going to give Hillary another clean bill of health this week.

 

[theeedude]

Breitbart is switching attention to Donna Brazile, Comey narrative is about to swing the other way, so they want to move on.

 

[sdifox]

Just heard a radio interview with a former chief ethics officer under GW Bush who filed a complaint against Comley saying he violated the Hatch Act. Not sure about spelling of the name of the act.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Just heard a radio interview with a former chief ethics officer under GW Bush who filed a complaint against Comley saying he violated the Hatch Act. Not sure about spelling of the name of the act.

Was there intent though..

 

[theeedude]

Watch and see. He is in a tight spot politically and the clock is ticking.
His options:
-Punt till after the election or refuse to comment further, but then he'll be seen as interfering in the election with unsubstantiated innuendo with nothing to back it up, and then refusing to mitigate the damage. He ran his mouth too much, if he stopped now, it would look political.
-Recommend charges, before the election. But then who is going to take it as anything other than a political rush job? At this point, this is such a politicized issue, he would need a completely iron tight case that DOJ will take, there is no time nor goodwill left for him to get there.
-Say that nothing substantially new came up in the emails and the investigation is closed again, before the election. The only real option he has left.
Of course he is now known to double down on bad decisions, so anything could happen, but now that his whole maverick shtick is backfiring, I think he's going to stop digging.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Watch and see. He is in a tight spot politically and the clock is ticking.
His options:
-Punt till after the election or refuse to comment further, but then he'll be seen as interfering in the election with unsubstantiated innuendo with nothing to back it up, and then refusing to mitigate the damage. He ran his mouth too much, if he stopped now, it would look political.
-Recommend charges, before the election. But then who is going to take it as anything other than a political rush job? At this point, this is such a politicized issue, he would need a completely iron tight case that DOJ will take, there is no time nor goodwill left for him to get there.
-Say that nothing substantially new came up in the emails and the investigation is closed again, before the election. The only real option he has left.
Of course he is now known to double down on bad decisions, so anything could happen, but now that his whole maverick shtick is backfiring, I think he's going to stop digging.

Comey cant say or do anything until the investigation is complete. That will take months. In the meantime I applaud the FBI for trying to be thorough.

 

[theeedude]

Comey cant say or do anything until the investigation is complete.

He has demonstrated that's not the case. So that argument won't stick. But investigation will be "complete," so it's a moot point.

That will take months. In the meantime I applaud the FBI for trying to be thorough.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...ck-work-on-renewed-clinton-email-probe-230552

The Justice Department is promising members of Congress that the renewed investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server will be given a top priority and dealt with quickly.

Why would it be given top priority if the results will come out after the election and won't matter? I don't think so.
I am going to predict that Thursday (plus minus a day), there will be an announcement saying that they have reviewed the emails and nothing substantial has been found that would alter their previous conclusion. Not too soon to make it look like they rushed it, but not too late that they are seen as prolonging this unnecessarily as people are already voting.
That is my prediction.

 

[IGBT]

I don't like Clinton but a Trump presidency is even scarier. Much much scarier. Even worse than Bush 2000-2008. All the nutjobs will rejoice when he's in office.

It will be funny to watch as they all realize that their messiah is unable to make their lives better. OTHO, maybe we need someone like Trump. An outsider who isn't afraid to do what's right for the American public.

With the clintons..the push is never to get to the truth where it concerns them and their criminal activity. The push is to get the investigation pencil whipped and closed so they can move on to their next criminal stunt.

 

[Jhhnn]

One thing's for sure- Comey really pulled the cork out of the bull's ass, didn't he?

 

[agent00f]

Fair enough.

Protocol exists to ensure consistency under predictable conditions. Protocol rarely functions under extenuating circumstances, and this year is very much an outlier.

Political parties tend not to elevate and support candidates under federal investigation. Political parties tend not to nominate sexual predators and fraudulent thieves.

When faced with a moral dilemma, our society needs leaders who have the bravery to dismiss protocol for integrity.

If you field an athlete under investigation for doping, don't blame the Olympic committee for going against protocol and barring the athlete from competing if new evidence arises on the day of the competition.

There's a psychological technique called anchoring, to take advantage of the mind's tendency to attach to a first or oft repeated claim regardless of its validity. For example when the used car salesman low-balling your trade-in, the subsequent conversation revolves around his figure and your presumably more rational/researched one as equals, hoping to meet in the middle with a fake figure at one end.

Similarly, the purpose of political operatives who insist that Clinton is a crook despite zero compelling evidence is to keep that lowball claim as one anchor point, and these threads are proof positive the technique reliably works.

As another example:

"Gumming up the works" is something done by both sides. Voter ID laws are owned by the Right for sure. Gerrymandering is another that is a dual issue.

I would caution that the Left is not far behind the right. I can see a future where the Left sinks to the same level. The base of the Right hit bottom, but I see far too many on the left wanting to play in the same mud. You look at Trump rallies and how those on the left act around them, and you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. The Right created a monster, and the left is working on theirs.

This is the anchor of american left are the Real™ racists, uneducated, dummies. So using the meet somewhere in the middle psychology, if any leftist ever does anything the right wing makes a habit of, Both Sides are the Same™. So Trump's charity can be 100% scam, and the Clinton Foundation can do 0.1% suspect activity, and both are the same in the minds of simpletons.

These techniques exploit human instincts, which are difficult to change for the less than intelligent/conscientious even when they're made fully aware of this.

On what planet would these mythical people reside?

That's why a lot of his new licensing deals are overseas.

 

[Jhhnn]

There's a psychological technique called anchoring, to take advantage of the mind's tendency to attach to a first or oft repeated claim regardless of its validity. For example when the used car salesman low-balling your trade-in, the subsequent conversation revolves around his figure and your presumably more rational/researched one as equals, hoping to meet in the middle with a fake figure at one end.

Similarly, the purpose of political operatives who insist that Clinton is a crook despite zero compelling evidence is to keep that lowball claim as one anchor point, and these threads are proof positive the technique reliably works.

As another example:



This is the anchor of american left are the Real™ racists, uneducated, dummies. So using the meet somewhere in the middle psychology, if any leftist ever does anything the right wing makes a habit of, Both Sides are the Same™. So Trump's charity can be 100% scam, and the Clinton Foundation can do 0.1% suspect activity, and both are the same in the minds of simpletons.

These techniques exploit human instincts, which are difficult to change for the less than intelligent/conscientious even when they're made fully aware of this.


That's why a lot of his new licensing deals are overseas.

Both sides! Both sides do it!

 

[Pens1566]

So an investigation rooted in someone allegedly violating government policy (private server) where information from a classified system was supposedly sent to an unclassified environment (emails) has now come full circle with another government employee actually violating government policy (Comey speaking about an active investigation) and someone leaking his email from a classified system (his email to FBI was apparently sent on their classified side, and marked FOUO).

Can't get any funnier than this. And no, I don't have a link for that last bit. Just have heard it from folks who would know and that I trust.

 

[0roo0roo]

May the Wiener sing to save us all!

Comey Did Nothing Wrong in Notifying Congress of the New Emails on Weiner's Computer

Comey Would Have Violated the Hatch Act by Not Telling Congress: Also, H.A. Goodman Shoutout!

WIKILEAKS 24 JUST RELEASED: Clinton's FBI Constitutional Crisis. Brazile Gives Hillary Two Questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_0yEO8xPhA

Comey is going to give Hillary another clean bill of health this week. Fox is already transitioning to WikiLeaks to distract attention from that.

You can dream, people are likely being thrown under the bus as we speak, Huma's missing..

If wiener had all this, I'm sure the russians and the chinese have been laughing for years. No wonder they just laugh when they don't let Obama off his own plane now.

 

[Starbuck1975]

There's a psychological technique called anchoring, to take advantage of the mind's tendency to attach to a first or oft repeated claim regardless of its validity. For example when the used car salesman low-balling your trade-in, the subsequent conversation revolves around his figure and your presumably more rational/researched one as equals, hoping to meet in the middle with a fake figure at one end.

Similarly, the purpose of political operatives who insist that Clinton is a crook despite zero compelling evidence is to keep that lowball claim as one anchor point, and these threads are proof positive the technique reliably works.

As another example:



This is the anchor of american left are the Real™ racists, uneducated, dummies. So using the meet somewhere in the middle psychology, if any leftist ever does anything the right wing makes a habit of, Both Sides are the Same™. So Trump's charity can be 100% scam, and the Clinton Foundation can do 0.1% suspect activity, and both are the same in the minds of simpletons.

These techniques exploit human instincts, which are difficult to change for the less than intelligent/conscientious even when they're made fully aware of this.


That's why a lot of his new licensing deals are overseas.

I am familiar with the lowball dynamic, but I see it in play another way. Democrats are trying to sell us a Yugo by reminding us the dealer next door is selling a Pinto. They keep telling us how we will certainly die a horrible fiery death if we buy the Pinto, and that is most certainly true. That doesn't however suddenly make the Yugo a great car.

 

[agent00f]

I am familiar with the lowball dynamic, but I see it in play another way. Democrats are trying to sell us a Yugo by reminding us the dealer next door is selling a Pinto. They keep telling us how we will certainly die a horrible fiery death if we buy the Pinto, and that is most certainly true. That doesn't however suddenly make the Yugo a great car.

I'm pretty sure my post already references the both cars of similar inherent shittiness argument, and it's not coming from the democrats.

 

[Grooveriding]

Does ororororroooo really get his information from some guy growing his hair out to look like jesus making crappy washed out youtube videos from beside his window ? Where does your head have to be to take that sort of excrement as having some value ?

 

[realibrad]

Both sides! Both sides do it!

So because both sides do those few topics, it must mean they are equal in all things. Nevermind the fact that I gave an example of a Right issue. Ignore that I clearly said the Left was not at rock bottom like the Right and Trump supporters. Just focus on dismissing every criticism as a false equivalency.