Well, they illary servers were scrubbed before the FBI could look at them, but it's very possible that she sent emails to / from huma and huma was using her hubby's laptop. That laptop was not scrubbed, so all of a sudden there might be some interesting emails there that had been scrubbed from the server. Or, there might be nothing new. Given that there was the letter, I'd say they found something interesting. Huma for sure has some 'splainin to do, because she supposedly claimed she had never used her husband's laptop, yet emails to / from her were apparently found on it.
Well, they illary servers were scrubbed before the FBI could look at them, but it's very possible that she sent emails to / from huma and huma was using her hubby's laptop. That laptop was not scrubbed, so all of a sudden there might be some interesting emails there that had been scrubbed from the server. Or, there might be nothing new. Given that there was the letter, I'd say they found something interesting. Huma for sure has some 'splainin to do, because she supposedly claimed she had never used her husband's laptop, yet emails to / from her were apparently found on it.
When he wrote the letter he had literally zero idea as to the contents of any of those emails. They didn't obtain clearance to look at them until days later.
Always hard to understand what's going on without context of other related communications, but that sure doesn't look good... "dumping" all the emails right after getting a subpoena? Yeah, nothing wrong with that
Always hard to understand what's going on without context of other related communications, but that sure doesn't look good... "dumping" all the emails right after getting a subpoena? Yeah, nothing wrong with that
Of course people also frequently refer to a mass transmission of emails and other things as the result of a subpoena as a 'document dump', which would mean there was absolutely nothing wrong with that.
UglyCasanova
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Actually that interpretation is spot on. You have to be pretty, well honestly, stupid to believe that means data scrubbing it or something.
Good point, he likely didn't know what was included in the emails, just that they might very well be relevant.
zinfamous
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Always hard to understand what's going on without context of other related communications, but that sure doesn't look good... "dumping" all the emails right after getting a subpoena? Yeah, nothing wrong with that
weren't you the guy laughing about what desperation looks like earlier?
Another interesting side to the story is that Lynch apparently tried to stop Comey from releasing the letter but he called her bluff. The story I read said he asked her point blank if he was being ordered not to release the letter, which she did not do. Pretty scary when the head of the FBI has to battle to do his job when investigating activities of someone who many think should be above the law.....
I don't see any comment on my post, just drivel. When you have something to add, go ahead and post it.
Mere innuendo & the acceptance of it as fact.
"The story you read"... Breitbart? Newsmax? World Nut Daily?
Reading comprehension fail as usual. Did you miss where I said "apparently"? That is not a statement of fact, nor have I accepted it as fact. You must be one of those victims of the great public school system. Oh, and no, no and no on those sources, I don't generally read any of those or any other huffpo level trash.
Relevant in some vague & undefined way obviously. The whole notion that the discovery of their existence justifies a search warrant stands on very shaky legal grounds. Their existence alone is not proof of criminal activity. It's not like seeing a sawed off shotgun laying on the back seat. The original warrant allows a search to gather evidence concerning alleged sexting of a minor & nothing more. What crime does the FBI allege to have occurred in connection with the emails? How do they get a warrant w/o that?
Pens1566
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The chain of evidence for a warrant cannot be circular. They can't obtain one on the basis of information they broke the law to collect in the first place. Their original warrant doesn't cover it.
What are you babbling about? They obtained the warrant needed to collect the information. The fact that the information was first discovered as part of another (unrelated) investigation into wiener and his sordid affairs has no relevance whatsoever. There is nothing circular about it, this is being played absolutely by the book.
You really don't seem to have any idea what's going on huh? Very simple. The FBI looked at all the emails on her server to determine if there was criminal activity. They decided there was not enough evidence there to warrant criminal prosecution. Many of the emails were gone because of the scrubbing, so they could obviously not review those as part of their investigation. Then they find a laptop because of their investigation of wiener, which includes emails to/from illary's private server. Obviously, those emails are relevant to the earlier investigation of her email activities, and they need to be reviewed... so the FBI obtains a warrant to review those. Nothing all that difficult to understand, very normal activity. The only thing unusual in this case is the parties involved, the case itself is not special.
UglyCasanova
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FBI released documents on the Clinton Foundtion:
https://vault.fbi.gov/william-j.-clinton-foundation/william-j.-clinton-foundation.pdf/view
It's almost entirely redacted though. What does it mean...?
https://vault.fbi.gov/william-j.-clinton-foundation/william-j.-clinton-foundation.pdf/view
It's almost entirely redacted though. What does it mean...?
It doesn't mean anything. They are documents related to an investigation from 15 years ago where the Clintons were cleared of any wrongdoing.
Heh. Your reasoning is circular. You said "Given that there was the letter, I'd say they found something interesting", the implication being that they'd already opened emails not pertinent to the sexting allegations. The presence of Huma's emails is not evidence of wrongdoing, is it?
Valid search warrants aren't just fishing licenses. They allege violation of specific statutes & I'd be very interested to see what, if any, such allegations have been made in obtaining this one.
UglyCasanova
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It doesn't mean anything? Then why release them? Why now?
It does mean something, I'm just not sure what. Docs on an investigation into Marc Rich? Released 8 days before election day?
runzwithsizorz
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I have no idea what you are talking about, nor do you. The FBI obtained a warrant to seize and examine Anthony Weiner's laptop for the purpose of his sexting scandal. While looking through it they discovered a treasure trove of emails, roughly 650,000! The FBI has been looking at them for some time now, but cannot use them for it was not part of the original warrant. Well, now they can, for the DOJ has granted a new warrant to do so. This *COULD* be the holy grail where the unvarnished, non-redacted truth lies, and trust me the FBI ALREADY knows, hence, the bombshell. If the cops get a warrant to search your car for drugs, but instead find a body in your trunk, do you really think you're gonna skate?
theeedude
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There is actually not zero context. The context is about getting the information out there ASAP instead of waiting.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/303768-clinton-aide-advised-dump-all-those-emails
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