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FBI is SCUM... Scum I tell you

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cytg111 said:
Not surprising really

www.msnbc.com

Trump calls FBI ‘scum’ at rally

At a rally in Pennsylvania, Trump called the FBI ‘scum’ amid the release of an IG report on the FBI's investigation of the 2016 Trump campaign. The IG
www.msnbc.com www.msnbc.com

Radicalization of the base ... one inch closer to the edge every single day!
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I tell you true... when I watch the evening news and they show a 10 second (or whatever) clip of Trump speaking, I fast forward through it. He's that anathema to my psyche. Similarly, I never read his tweets. They offend as well. Every time.
 
zinfamous said:
When you reduce these down, I think it goes back to moonbeam being correct. Trump would never be possible without decades of Fox news, nor would Mitch's blatant totalitarian regime that seeks to ignore all law and order, for the simple need to maintain fragile power within the tiniest of ideological minorities within the most powerful country in the world.
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Yeah, silliness aside, I think there's plenty of validity in the argument that it's Fox news and related media that are the fundmanental problem. I went with McConnell under the theory that the Senate is *supposed* to be a guardrail against unfettered populism.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
I still have my fingers crossed the President hurts Moscow Mitches feels which prompts Moscow Mitch to make the impeachment vote secret.
Then all of a sudden there will be a bunch of Senate Republicans saying “who me?”
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Mitch doesn't have feelings, or at least he doesn't let them get in the way of his prime directive: obtain and retain GOP power at all costs, everything else be damned (including feelings).
Jhhnn said:
It's a terrible mistake to think that way. 62M Americans couldn't spot the con in 2016 & some of them still can't see it today. Just because we can see through it doesn't mean it doesn't work on other people. He might be the greatest con artist who ever lived.
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SteveGrabowski said:
Of course Trump is a skilled conman. He has been nothing but a fuck up in business but managed to get a bank bailout so they could use his name as well a show on NBC about how great a great businessman he was. The guy knows how to bend media to his will.
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Nah. Sure he knows the basic tricks but even those he can't help but fuck up once he gets wound up. He has no self-control. People are using him to make money and throwing him scraps along the way. Of course, even those scraps are more money than most of us would ever earn in a lifetime, but that is beside the point. Other people make the plans and execute them.

Regarding the media, he isn't bending them to his will. Again, he just fucks up so often that nobody has time to do anything about the fuckups before he fucks up again. He isn't trying, he is just being himself, and the world can't even process it.

The reality is, he isn't the conman, he is the mark. Everyone knows how to get him to do whatever they want and use him as a front to make lots of illegal money.
 
Have you guys been noticing the trend where Trump wanders aimlessly after ending a press conference outside? 😱 😵😳
 
dank69 said:
Regarding the media, he isn't bending them to his will. Again, he just fucks up so often that nobody has time to do anything about the fuckups before he fucks up again. He isn't trying, he is just being himself, and the world can't even process it.

The reality is, he isn't the conman, he is the mark. Everyone knows how to get him to do whatever they want and use him as a front to make lots of illegal money.
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Trump has been using the media his whole life to build this great businessman, brilliant leader persona of his despite being a complete fuck up in business. He still knows exactly what he's doing with the media so now he can play poor little victim all the time now instead of brilliant real estate man he played before. He's not stupid, he's evil.
 
SteveGrabowski said:
Trump has been using the media his whole life to build this great businessman, brilliant leader persona of his despite being a complete fuck up in business. He still knows exactly what he's doing with the media so now he can play poor little victim all the time now instead of brilliant real estate man he played before. He's not stupid, he's evil.
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Being a victim and being a brilliant real estate man are not mutually exclusive. You think if someone asked him if he is still a brilliant real estate man today he would say no?

He's stupid. When he was young he was taught that you can make things true just by saying they are true. His money insulated him from the consequences of taking that philosophy way too far, as well as insulating him from the consequences of his personality disorders. He never had to learn anything because he had people to take care of everything for him, and those people were generally the scum of the earth. Yes, he is a con man, but he isn't able to fool anyone with more than a lukewarm IQ and/or an overwhelming desire to be fooled in the first place. He isn't running cons, he just fucking lies. He isn't fooling the media, they just don't care if what he says is true or not. They just want the money they get from reporting on the crazy things he says.
 
dank69 said:
I respectfully disagree. Fox News and the conservative media bubble enable this. As mentioned before, if this shit existed back in the Nixon era he never would have resigned or been impeached.
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These people were around long before Fox, etc. Ever heard of the Know Nothings? The 1800s and exactly the same people with pretty much the same complaints.
 
interchange said:
Why do you think Xi is so aggressive at controlling his own media and pressuring businesses e.g. the NBA to suppress speech detrimental to his image? Autocrats fear their own people. If they can't keep a state-sustaining narrative in sufficient public consciousness, they'll get deposed. In this case, Trump's views are clearly heavily derived from what he's getting from Fox et. al. He is both dependent upon them supporting a separatist narrative against evil Democrats prioritizing maintenance of that over reality and dependent upon them for providing him a platform for political action, or at least readily subject to their influence. I very much think Trump himself is weak, only supported by the alignment of anti-democratic interests from those with power representing conservative political voices.
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The one to fear is the 'competent' person who has been watching this and figuring out how to make it actually work.
 
In that latest lie and hate rally...Trump is now pretty much laying down the foundation to assert that he might need to turn the U.S. into a dictatorship.

www.vox.com

Trump’s speech in Hershey revealed a presidency off the rails

It was one of his ugliest rallies yet — and put the stakes of 2020 in sharp relief.
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Actually..I don't think he's laying the foundation for dictatorship. He already thinks it is. He seems to sincerely believe that if the President does it, its not illegal. If we look back at history, there is a point to be made. Reagan sold arms to a hostile foreign power, in order to raise money to support the Contras. Which Congress specifically and explicitly said he could not do.

And he skated. And some of the people that helped Reagan get away with this are now working hard on Trump's behalf.

The way we are headed, it's possible we'll never see a bipartisan impeachment effort. If the President's party controls the House, no one will ever be impeached again. If he controls at least 1/3 the Senate, no one will ever be convicted.
 
zinfamous said:
When you reduce these down, I think it goes back to moonbeam being correct. Trump would never be possible without decades of Fox news, nor would Mitch's blatant totalitarian regime that seeks to ignore all law and order, for the simple need to maintain fragile power within the tiniest of ideological minorities within the most powerful country in the world.
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Once again, I think many (most?) Americans really don't understand what happened. Read your history, these folks have been around since your country became a country. i.e The Know Nothings. I firmly believe that Trump (or a more competent version) is/was almost inevitable. The next one is, I suspect, going to be the really dangerous one as the groundwork has been laid.
 
None of the Dems on the Senate Judiciary Committee asked the DoJ IG if his findings stated the FBI were scum.
 
dank69 said:
And I bet their rise was fueled by effective use of the "social media" tools of the day.
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Right, the know-nothings were similar to today's Trumpian conservatives, but they didn't get this much traction because their reach wasn't so far. Still, it's a helpful reminder than anti-immigrant sentiment has been strongly present in this country since the beginning.
 
Victorian Gray said:
Once again, I think many (most?) Americans really don't understand what happened. Read your history, these folks have been around since your country became a country. i.e The Know Nothings. I firmly believe that Trump (or a more competent version) is/was almost inevitable. The next one is, I suspect, going to be the really dangerous one as the groundwork has been laid.
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woolfe9998 said:
Right, the know-nothings were similar to today's Trumpian conservatives, but they didn't get this much traction because their reach wasn't so far. Still, it's a helpful reminder than anti-immigrant sentiment has been strongly present in this country since the beginning.
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It was about Irish Papists instead of Mexican rapists. Canada has had their fair share of it, too, even if they were seemingly less murderous.
 
Fuck you, interchange.

Trying to convince people with images of the NBA and like them with Xi and then going Anti-Trump isn't going to win you the masses. Nothing you stated makes sense, it's just all random jumble, but a very strategic one, albeit.

Bad start here with the "Fuck you."

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I wonder how many redneck with thin blue line stickers had their heads explode over this. I'm guessing very few.
 
Jhhnn said:
It was about Irish Papists instead of Mexican rapists. Canada has had their fair share of it, too, even if they were seemingly less murderous.
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Throughout the 19th century, it was Catholics in general. The Irish just happened to be the Catholic country that sent us the most immigrants. But it was really about religious intolerance. These days, it's either race, or it is, again, religion. American protestants lost the war to keep Catholics out of America. Now they've switched to Muslims.
 
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