FBI Hate Crime Statistics

[Don Vito Corleone]

How many crimes are white on black or black on white that aren't reported as a hate crime?

Presumably many. It is certainly the case that black-on-white crimes are far more common than white-on-black ones.

 

[peonyu]

Keep in mind that crime data is scewed -

1 - All Hispanics are counted as White when then they are considered as a possible Perp. So that inflates White numbers in the hate crime category AND in the overall crime rate for Whites.

2 - Hispanics are counted as Hispanic if one is a victim. So if a White guy attacks a Hispanic then its listed as a Hispanic victim of a possible hate crime. A hispanic can be a Victim but NEVER a perp as far as official crime records go [there is no listing for Hispanic under the Perp category at all].

3 - If a Hispanic attacks a White person out of racial bias [ie- hate crime] then its not listed as a possible hate but instead its listed as a White on White crime.

4 - Arabs, Asian-Indians, Jews and North Africans are also listed as Whites if they are the perps of a crime. But are "minorities" or "Muslim/Hindu/Jewish" if they are a victim of crime. This is because like Hispanics, official records have no box for Jews, Arabs, North Africans or Asian-Indians if they commited a crime so "White" is checked by default instead.

5 - Considering that, data that doesn't break down each group by itself [Jewish, Arab, Hispanic] as both a possible PERP and as Victim is bullshit data.

 

[Lemon law]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EL67ajELJw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6RjVZwcw24

Lots of anti-semitism in the US.

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Lots of other type hate crimes in the USA, this recent Tulsa shooting being a prime example.

And not to in any way excuse some idiot spry painting swastikas, but that is far more survivable than being shot by bullets, or beating gays or Lesbians to death. Or need I mention, Federal grand standing by the ATF that led to Ruby Ridge and Waco Texas.

And gotta love the first Albatross link when the perp was a Jew.

Sadly, Xenophobia and violence is seeming ingrained in human nature.

Maybe and lucky for me, I live in an area of the USA where such incidents are rare. The formula is not difficult to figure out as we tend to live by the golden rule. As we treat others as we hope to be treated

 

[RearAdmiral]

■0.6 percent were prompted by disability bias. (Based on Table 1.)

I sure showed that peg leg who was boss.

 

[theevilsharpie]

Keep in mind that crime data is scewed -

1 - All Hispanics are counted as White when then they are considered as a possible Perp. So that inflates White numbers in the hate crime category AND in the overall crime rate for Whites.

2 - Hispanics are counted as Hispanic if one is a victim. So if a White guy attacks a Hispanic then its listed as a Hispanic victim of a possible hate crime. A hispanic can be a Victim but NEVER a perp as far as official crime records go [there is no listing for Hispanic under the Perp category at all].

3 - If a Hispanic attacks a White person out of racial bias [ie- hate crime] then its not listed as a possible hate but instead its listed as a White on White crime.

4 - Arabs, Asian-Indians, Jews and North Africans are also listed as Whites if they are the perps of a crime. But are "minorities" or "Muslim/Hindu/Jewish" if they are a victim of crime. This is because like Hispanics, official records have no box for Jews, Arabs, North Africans or Asian-Indians if they commited a crime so "White" is checked by default instead.

5 - Considering that, data that doesn't break down each group by itself [Jewish, Arab, Hispanic] as both a possible PERP and as Victim is bullshit data.

This. I don't know about the rest of the country, but here in So. Cal, racially/ethnically motivated hate crimes are far more likely to be Brown on Black (and vice versa) than anything else.

 

[Throckmorton]

I posted this a year or two ago. People on this forum repeatedly claim that only crimes committed by whites are classified as hate crimes, which isn't true. Blacks are only 11% of the population but commit 18% of hate crimes.

 

[Lithium381]

I'm curious to know how this is validated. As Throckmorton said, Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime to their population . . how is not more of it of the "hate" variety, while ANY crime by a white against a black is considered a hate crime.

 

[Yreka]

■0.6 percent were prompted by disability bias. (Based on Table 1.)

I sure showed that peg leg who was boss.

This entire entry was caused by a handful of kids in Iowa who thought it was a good idea to go Drunken Wheelchair Tipping

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I'm curious to know how this is validated. As Throckmorton said, Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime to their population . . how is not more of it of the "hate" variety, while ANY crime by a white against a black is considered a hate crime.

To me that demonstrates the intrinsic goofiness about having "hate crimes." I would argue that the fact that a crime was motivated by someone's race or religion might justify a harsher sentence (the dragging death of James Byrd Jr., which was one of the crimes that led to the creation of federal hate crimes statutes, is a well-known example), but the arbitrary application of these laws makes me uncomfortable with creating an entire category of statutory "hate crimes."

 

[CLite]

I'm curious to know how this is validated. As Throckmorton said, Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime to their population . . how is not more of it of the "hate" variety, while ANY crime by a white against a black is considered a hate crime.

You're talking out of your ass. Review the statistics, unless you think there was a grand total of 3,725 * 0.586 = 2183 white on black crimes committed to meet your "any crime by a white against a black is considered a hate crime". Overall less than half a percent of violent crimes are considered racially motivated hate crimes.

 

[hal2kilo]

This. I don't know about the rest of the country, but here in So. Cal, racially/ethnically motivated hate crimes are far more likely to be Brown on Black (and vice versa) than anything else.

Yep.

 

[corwin]

You're talking out of your ass. Review the statistics, unless you think there was a grand total of 3,725 * 0.586 = 2183 white on black crimes committed to meet your "any crime by a white against a black is considered a hate crime". Overall less than half a percent of violent crimes are considered racially motivated hate crimes.

I think more to his point would be that usually any (violent) white on black crime is investigated as a hate crime by default while black on white usually is not...there is a "reverse" racial bias that has been over correcting for a very long time, yes there was a time not too long ago that was terrible and went the opposite way, but by and large the US is WAY past that and we have since steered back to where the opposite is becoming more the norm

 

[shortylickens]

Since the very concept of a hate crime is bullshit, any data collected on the subject wouldnt be worth analyzing or interpreting.

 

[woolfe9999]

I think more to his point would be that usually any (violent) white on black crime is investigated as a hate crime by default while black on white usually is not...there is a "reverse" racial bias that has been over correcting for a very long time, yes there was a time not too long ago that was terrible and went the opposite way, but by and large the US is WAY past that and we have since steered back to where the opposite is becoming more the norm

It's possible there's some investigation bias, but only a small percentage are prosecuted as hate crimes. It's difficult to prove the bias motivation beyond reasonable doubt.

 

[Lithium381]

You're talking out of your ass. Review the statistics, unless you think there was a grand total of 3,725 * 0.586 = 2183 white on black crimes committed to meet your "any crime by a white against a black is considered a hate crime". Overall less than half a percent of violent crimes are considered racially motivated hate crimes.

I wonder why I hear so much about white>black hate-crimes on the news so much then . . .

 

[Siddhartha]

You guys are really straining to use the FBI Hate Crime Statistics to support your "Blacks victimizing Whites" dogma. Which it does not.

 

[CLite]

I wonder why I hear so much about white>black hate-crimes on the news so much then . . .

Selective memory to fit your pre-conceived notions as to the extent of white on black hate-crimes.

Look at the FBI stats, do you think they are lying?

 

[CanOWorms]

Look at the FBI stats, do you think they are lying?

There's a lot of under reporting going on in respect to some minority groups and recent immigrants.

 

[shortylickens]

Selective memory to fit your pre-conceived notions as to the extent of white on black hate-crimes.

Look at the FBI stats, do you think they are lying?

Yes.
Next question?

 

[Infohawk]

I don't know how useful it is to generalize from these stats in terms of which race is the biggest victim, which seems to be a topic of debate. For example, would that Baltimore beating be considered a hate crime? Perhaps not, but clearly race was a causal factor there.

 

[cybrsage]

This entire entry was caused by a handful of kids in Iowa who thought it was a good idea to go Drunken Wheelchair Tipping

funny

 

[cybrsage]

You guys are really straining to use the FBI Hate Crime Statistics to support your "Blacks victimizing Whites" dogma. Which it does not.

The statistics are meaningless. They support nothing. Well, untrue. They can be used to support someone who wants to show the stupidity of hate crime laws.

 

[Ausm]

If there is a video tape of someone screaming ethnic slurs and beating someone to near death and they never catch that person I'm pretty sure they have a damn good idea that it was a hate crime even if they can't identify him.

That still wouldn't convince Rightists protecting their base.

 

[RearAdmiral]

This entire entry was caused by a handful of kids in Iowa who thought it was a good idea to go Drunken Wheelchair Tipping

I guess that's kinda mean.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Me hates crime.