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Maxima1

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The Wray stuff sounds a lot like the "hero" McGahn leaks. Weird how it's being reported that Wray found something of concern in the IG report, yet prior reports indicated that the DOJ/FBI were aware of everything in the memo, which makes sense.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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The Wray stuff sounds a lot like the "hero" McGahn leaks. Weird how it's being reported that Wray found something of concern in the IG report, yet prior reports indicated that the DOJ/FBI were aware of everything in the memo, which makes sense.

The bit about the IG memo is pure garbage. If there were anything "real" to it, he'd be fired. Not reassigned. It's a smear, and he can't respond to it (legally) to save his own name.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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You'd have walked ten miles barefoot in a snowstorm to smell where 0bama had farted.

Obama didn't tear down the institutions of the govt of the people nor did he attack the integrity of career DoJ & FBI staffers, either. He didn't define them as his enemies, but Trump does.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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Sounds like the guy Wray has assigned to take McCabe's place is a solid FBI guy (David Bowditch).

Trump isn't going to understand how his petty grudges kept backfiring until he's in jail though.
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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Obama didn't tear down the institutions of the govt of the people nor did he attack the integrity of career DoJ & FBI staffers, either. He didn't define them as his enemies, but Trump does.
0bama ruled through executive fiat using the process of executive orders that thankfully, Trump is gutting one by one. The fundamental transformation of the United States of America into a socialist hell-hole where illegals have more rights than citizens has been thwarted. 0bama turned the DOJ and the FBI into arms of the DNC that did the bidding of what may very well prove to be the most corrupt political party the nation has ever seen. Your world is about to be rocked like it's probably never been rocked before.

I fully understand that you didn't want that apple cart upended. That DNC operatives running deep state operations against Trump served your ideology very, very well. Despite the efforts of the FBI and the DOJ, your candidate lost. It's a loss you cannot deal with on any level. Well boo-fucking-hoo.

The civil war has started. It started when people such as yourself decided that they would not recognize the results of an election. It started when people such as yourself decided that elections are not the best way to determine who's running the country. You cannot reconcile a Republican win. You have decided that you will not and do not need to accept the results of elections. You, are working against the principles of the nation. You have started the civil war which for right now is a war of words. How far are you willing to take this?

Guns are how a civil war ends. Politics is how it begins.

"The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.

Trump didn’t really win the election. Bush didn’t really win the election. Every time a Republican president won an election this century, the Democrats insist he didn’t really win.

Now say a third Republican president wins an election in say, 2024.

What are the odds that they’ll say that he didn’t really win? Right now, it looks like 100 percent.

What do sure odds of the Dems rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win.

It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war.

There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement.

You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to the left, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate.

The attacks on Trump show that elections don’t matter to the left.

Republicans can win an election, but they have a major flaw. They’re not leftists.

That’s what the leftist dictatorship looks like."
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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0bama ruled through executive fiat using the process of executive orders that thankfully, Trump is gutting one by one. The fundamental transformation of the United States of America into a socialist hell-hole where illegals have more rights than citizens has been thwarted. 0bama turned the DOJ and the FBI into arms of the DNC that did the bidding of what may very well prove to be the most corrupt political party the nation has ever seen. Your world is about to be rocked like it's probably never been rocked before.

I fully understand that you didn't want that apple cart upended. That DNC operatives running deep state operations against Trump served your ideology very, very well. Despite the efforts of the FBI and the DOJ, your candidate lost. It's a loss you cannot deal with on any level. Well boo-fucking-hoo.

The civil war has started. It started when people such as yourself decided that they would not recognize the results of an election. It started when people such as yourself decided that elections are not the best way to determine who's running the country. You cannot reconcile a Republican win. You have decided that you will not and do not need to accept the results of elections. You, are working against the principles of the nation. You have started the civil war which for right now is a war of words. How far are you willing to take this?

Guns are how a civil war ends. Politics is how it begins.

I know I’ve said this before but holy shit. I sincerely recommend you seek professional mental health treatment immediately. Illegals having more rights than citizens? ‘Deep state’ conspiracies against Trump? A civil war? Delusional thinking to this extent seems to strongly indicate that you are not mentally well.

This isn’t a joke. You’re living in a paranoid fantasy and it’s got to be terrifying. I hope you can get the treatment you need.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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This isn’t a joke. You’re living in a paranoid fantasy and it’s got to be terrifying. I hope you can get the treatment you need.
I wouldn't count on it as they continue to worship their fuhrer.
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0bama ruled through executive fiat using the process of executive orders that thankfully, Trump is gutting one by one. The fundamental transformation of the United States of America into a socialist hell-hole where illegals have more rights than citizens has been thwarted. 0bama turned the DOJ and the FBI into arms of the DNC that did the bidding of what may very well prove to be the most corrupt political party the nation has ever seen. Your world is about to be rocked like it's probably never been rocked before.

I fully understand that you didn't want that apple cart upended. That DNC operatives running deep state operations against Trump served your ideology very, very well. Despite the efforts of the FBI and the DOJ, your candidate lost. It's a loss you cannot deal with on any level. Well boo-fucking-hoo.

The civil war has started. It started when people such as yourself decided that they would not recognize the results of an election. It started when people such as yourself decided that elections are not the best way to determine who's running the country. You cannot reconcile a Republican win. You have decided that you will not and do not need to accept the results of elections. You, are working against the principles of the nation. You have started the civil war which for right now is a war of words. How far are you willing to take this?

Guns are how a civil war ends. Politics is how it begins.

"The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.

Trump didn’t really win the election. Bush didn’t really win the election. Every time a Republican president won an election this century, the Democrats insist he didn’t really win.

Now say a third Republican president wins an election in say, 2024.

What are the odds that they’ll say that he didn’t really win? Right now, it looks like 100 percent.

What do sure odds of the Dems rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win.

It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war.

There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement.

You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to the left, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate.

The attacks on Trump show that elections don’t matter to the left.

Republicans can win an election, but they have a major flaw. They’re not leftists.

That’s what the leftist dictatorship looks like."

Fucking brilliant. If I wore a hat, consider it tipped.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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Sounds like the guy Wray has assigned to take McCabe's place is a solid FBI guy (David Bowditch).

Trump isn't going to understand how his petty grudges kept backfiring until he's in jail though.

I can't imagine why I suddenly remembered this clip:

 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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0bama ruled through executive fiat using the process of executive orders that thankfully, Trump is gutting one by one. The fundamental transformation of the United States of America into a socialist hell-hole where illegals have more rights than citizens has been thwarted. 0bama turned the DOJ and the FBI into arms of the DNC that did the bidding of what may very well prove to be the most corrupt political party the nation has ever seen. Your world is about to be rocked like it's probably never been rocked before.

I fully understand that you didn't want that apple cart upended. That DNC operatives running deep state operations against Trump served your ideology very, very well. Despite the efforts of the FBI and the DOJ, your candidate lost. It's a loss you cannot deal with on any level. Well boo-fucking-hoo.

The civil war has started. It started when people such as yourself decided that they would not recognize the results of an election. It started when people such as yourself decided that elections are not the best way to determine who's running the country. You cannot reconcile a Republican win. You have decided that you will not and do not need to accept the results of elections. You, are working against the principles of the nation. You have started the civil war which for right now is a war of words. How far are you willing to take this?

Guns are how a civil war ends. Politics is how it begins.

"The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.

Trump didn’t really win the election. Bush didn’t really win the election. Every time a Republican president won an election this century, the Democrats insist he didn’t really win.

Now say a third Republican president wins an election in say, 2024.

What are the odds that they’ll say that he didn’t really win? Right now, it looks like 100 percent.

What do sure odds of the Dems rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win.

It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war.

There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement.

You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to the left, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate.

The attacks on Trump show that elections don’t matter to the left.

Republicans can win an election, but they have a major flaw. They’re not leftists.

That’s what the leftist dictatorship looks like."

you're touched, aren't you?
 

brandonbull

Diamond Member
May 3, 2005
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Obama didn't tear down the institutions of the govt of the people nor did he attack the integrity of career DoJ & FBI staffers, either. He didn't define them as his enemies, but Trump does.

Are you serious? Obama and his gang wiped their asses with the constitution daily. Obama took every opportunity to use the power of the government to harass, intimidate, investigate, and eliminate political opponents and enrich his cronies.
 

brandonbull

Diamond Member
May 3, 2005
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Based on Trump's high level hires they won't be black. He'll look for another unqualified white guy. Like some in this forum have said that doesn't matter.

So race is now a qualification? Let me guess, everyone else is racist.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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Are you serious? Obama and his gang wiped their asses with the constitution daily. Obama took every opportunity to use the power of the government to harass, intimidate, investigate, and eliminate political opponents and enrich his cronies.
Tell us where the Kenyan touched you.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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0bama ruled through executive fiat using the process of executive orders that thankfully, Trump is gutting one by one. The fundamental transformation of the United States of America into a socialist hell-hole where illegals have more rights than citizens has been thwarted. 0bama turned the DOJ and the FBI into arms of the DNC that did the bidding of what may very well prove to be the most corrupt political party the nation has ever seen. Your world is about to be rocked like it's probably never been rocked before.

I fully understand that you didn't want that apple cart upended. That DNC operatives running deep state operations against Trump served your ideology very, very well. Despite the efforts of the FBI and the DOJ, your candidate lost. It's a loss you cannot deal with on any level. Well boo-fucking-hoo.

The civil war has started. It started when people such as yourself decided that they would not recognize the results of an election. It started when people such as yourself decided that elections are not the best way to determine who's running the country. You cannot reconcile a Republican win. You have decided that you will not and do not need to accept the results of elections. You, are working against the principles of the nation. You have started the civil war which for right now is a war of words. How far are you willing to take this?

Guns are how a civil war ends. Politics is how it begins.

"The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.

Trump didn’t really win the election. Bush didn’t really win the election. Every time a Republican president won an election this century, the Democrats insist he didn’t really win.

Now say a third Republican president wins an election in say, 2024.

What are the odds that they’ll say that he didn’t really win? Right now, it looks like 100 percent.

What do sure odds of the Dems rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win.

It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war.

There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement.

You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to the left, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate.

The attacks on Trump show that elections don’t matter to the left.



Republicans can win an election, but they have a major flaw. They’re not leftists.

That’s what the leftist dictatorship looks like."

Trump is our president, even if it's only by unintended result of the electoral college. I never claimed any different. If he is ultimately removed from office it will be through constitutional means, either by resignation, impeachment or the consensus of his own cabinet via the 25th amendment.

There is no derp state/ shadow govt conspiracy to proceed in any other fashion. Revolutionary means are a fantasy of the Right, not the left. The fact that you'd go on about it when your party is in power indicates that you're not thinking straight.
 

snoopy7548

Diamond Member
Jan 1, 2005
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So when Trump is removed from office for being found guilty of a number of high crimes (because, let's face it... unless you're either incredibly shielded or seriously deranged, you have to admit the dude is dirtier than a pile of dirt), all you "the left didn't accept the outcome of the election"-saying followers will totally not follow in the left's footsteps and instead accept that Trump will no longer be president without any whining? Oh wait... you think Mueller is a corrupt leftist bent on destroying the country too, right?
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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So when Trump is removed from office for being found guilty of a number of high crimes (because, let's face it... unless you're either incredibly shielded or seriously deranged, you have to admit the dude is dirtier than a pile of dirt), all you "the left didn't accept the outcome of the election"-saying followers will totally not follow in the left's footsteps and instead accept that Trump will no longer be president without any whining? Oh wait... you think Mueller is a corrupt leftist bent on destroying the country too, right?

The most likely end of this to me is that Mueller comes back with a pretty damning report that details a criminal obstruction of justice case against Trump and possible witness tampering. It will also detail significant attempts at collusion between members of Trump's campaign staff/administration and the Russian government or its surrogates. It may very well not tie Trump personally to those attempts though, despite it being pretty obvious to everyone that he would have had to know about it. If Mueller is probing Trump's finances I imagine he will come back with a whole pile of money laundering activities involving the Trump Organization as well and potentially Trump himself.

After being notified of a wide range of criminal behavior involving the president and his associates I suspect Republicans in Congress will do nothing, most likely claiming that because Trump himself was not implicated in active collusion with Russia that the entire investigation is tainted and invalid and that this was all a Deep State Coup Attempt.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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I'm old enough to remember when the Right considered themselves to be patriots above all.