Father charged with "headshot" killing of drunk driver that killed his 2 sons

[vi edit]

The dude was 20.

Doesn't change the example. There's still 10's of thousands of type 1 diabetics out there that are 20 something and younger.

I'm just making a point. Unless you can offer a field exam on the fly or have undeniable proof the guy was drunk you have zero right to assume.

 

[Broheim]

A lot of people break their necks in car accidents...

yeah he broke his neck in the crash and then slipped and fell onto the pavement repeatedly, shit happens...

 

[diesbudt]

He deserves punishment.

#1 He left the scene to go get a gun, he had plenty of time to think about his actions on the way there and on the way back. shows premeditation

#2 he ditched the gun. shows guilt.

#3 he was so consumed with rage that he did not even bother to call a squad for his wife and 3 year old and stay with them until it gets there (nothing noted in the story)....what asshole leaves the scene of such and accident so he can kill someone without getting care for his surviving family?

It is a tragedy that his children were killed but he deserves jail time. But like someone said this is Texas...he'll walk.

#1 Just a few minutes. It takes minimum an hour to cool-down enough to start thinking rationally (50yards from house aka the gun)

#2 Yes, he ditched it. later when it was investigated. because he did just shoot someone. Anyone whether raged, insane, or not would keep a gun that you just used to kill someone. However at the moment of the killing it was insanity.

#3 Again... 50 yards. yes, he needs to call a squad to watch his wife when he is maybe at the slowest a mad dash of 7seconds from the house.

 

[diesbudt]

yeah he broke his neck in the crash and then slipped and fell onto the pavement repeatedly, shit happens...

While a glass shard just happened to pierce him in the back, fly up out of his back and into another part of him repeatedly also. It was quite an event.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Jose "I don't know what happen? I came over to check on him and he had a hole in his head. I no speak English."

 

[Genx87]

It does not matter. A driver is suppossed to be aware. If not drunk, it is still "reckless driving" and you cannot kill someone. Accidental(whatever the legal term for this is) vehicular homicide, is still a very serious ccrime. And it can still push a father over the edge.

If people are pushing a car on a dark road they are putting themselves and other drivers in danger. "Reckless driving" implies the driver is acting reckless. I dont think hitting a guy pushing a dead car on the road after dark is "reckless". That is an unfortunate situation brought on by somebody's negligent behavior of not moving the car off the road and waiting until the day to do this.

Pushing the father over the edge isnt a defense anyways.

 

[dabuddha]

That man's a hero. Fuck any juror that would vote to convict him.

 

[Genx87]

They were close to home (50 yards) and it likely wouldn't have taken long for an able-bodied adult and a 12 an 11 year old to push the car. Who the hell calls a tow truck for that?

And it might have been a dark road, but it's more than likely that they had the headlights/taillights on so they could see what the hell they were doing.

Well it took too long in this case. So it was a stupid decision. Then he made another stupid decision to get his gun and murder the guy who hit them.

 

[drebo]

He should be given a medal.

 

[vshah]

were they pushing the car ON the road or on the shoulder?

 

[KK]

good for him, this only proves that alcohol should be banned, just like guns.

 

[skyking]

If people are pushing a car on a dark road they are putting themselves and other drivers in danger. "Reckless driving" implies the driver is acting reckless. I dont think hitting a guy pushing a dead car on the road after dark is "reckless". That is an unfortunate situation brought on by somebody's negligent behavior of not moving the car off the road and waiting until the day to do this.

Pushing the father over the edge isnt a defense anyways.

Things happen fast. They may have been disabled for only a few moments before the driver hit them.
It happened like that on a bridge near here. A carload of folks, broken down on the bridge (35 MPH speed limit), hit by a drunk doing 60 plus while trying to get the car off the bridge to a shoulder.
Flashers, no flashers, you are in the wrong for hitting a parked or disabled car, every time.

 

[Genx87]

Things happen fast. They may have been disabled for only a few moments before the driver hit them.
It happened like that on a bridge near here, a carload of folks, broken down on the bridge (35 MPH speed limit), hit by a drunk doing 60 plus while trying to get the car off the bridge to a shoulder.
Flashers, no flashers, you are in the wrong for hitting a parked or disabled car, every time.

The article didnt say anything about it being a few moments. They had enough time to get out of the car and start pushing it towards home. That is negligent behavior to be doing this on a road at night.

Coming back to murder the driver will likely put him away for awhile.

 

[Jeffg010]

He deserves punishment.

#1 He left the scene to go get a gun, he had plenty of time to think about his actions on the way there and on the way back. shows premeditation

#2 he ditched the gun. shows guilt.

#3 he was so consumed with rage that he did not even bother to call a squad for his wife and 3 year old and stay with them until it gets there (nothing noted in the story)....what asshole leaves the scene of such and accident so he can kill someone without getting care for his surviving family?

It is a tragedy that his children were killed but he deserves jail time. But like someone said this is Texas...he'll walk.

Only post that is sane.

 

[bigrash]

Guy should be given a medal, then put in jail for killing someone.

 

[sixone]

The article didnt say anything about it being a few moments. They had enough time to get out of the car and start pushing it towards home. That is negligent behavior to be doing this on a road at night.

Coming back to murder the driver will likely put him away for awhile.

It may not have been the wisest decision, but they were in no danger from drivers who were operating their own vehicles safely. The only danger was from someone whose reaction time was chemically delayed, like the drunk who hit them.

 

[Dari]

I can't imagine finding this guy guilty on anything. He's suffered enough.

 

[etrigan420]

Temporary Insanity.

Easiest. Defense. Ever. If he gets a dad or two on the jury, he'll be home before supper.

Has anyone seen the video of that accused child molester getting shot in the head point blank by the victims father?

I think that guy got 5 years probation...and that fit the very definition of "pre-meditated".

This guy saw his kids die right in front of him, I'm not sure that I wouldn't have done the same thing. :|

 

[Mursilis]

i only see one wrong. the guy hitting the kids.

How did the shooter know that the driver of the other car was drunk? What if he just lost control swerving to avoid hitting a kitten?

 

[Genx87]

It may not have been the wisest decision, but they were in no danger from drivers who were operating their own vehicles safely. The only danger was from someone whose reaction time was chemically delayed, like the drunk who hit them.

That depends on road conditions and visibility. If visibility is impaired due to natural terrain or the road itself. It wouldnt matter if the person is drunk or not. They couldnt stop fast enough.

That said the article states he is a suspected drunk driver. What was his BAC? Usually they release that information. If it ends up at 0.0 will people feel the same and still want to give him medals?

 

[Genx87]

Temporary Insanity.

Easiest. Defense. Ever. If he gets a dad or two on the jury, he'll be home before supper.

Has anyone seen the video of that accused child molester getting shot in the head point blank by the victims father?

I think that guy got 5 years probation...and that fit the very definition of "pre-meditated".

This guy saw his kids die right in front of him, I'm not sure that I wouldn't have done the same thing. :|

The insanity defense works in less than 1% of cases it is attempted.

 

[sixone]

That depends on road conditions and visibility. If visibility is impaired due to natural terrain or the road itself. It wouldnt matter if the person is drunk or not. They couldnt stop fast enough.

That said the article states he is a suspected drunk driver. What was his BAC? Usually they release that information. If it ends up at 0.0 will people feel the same and still want to give him medals?

If visibility is impaired for any reason, it's the DRIVER's responsibility to adjust his speed accordingly, so that he DOES have time to stop.

 

[SheHateMe]

I'd love to hear what Mr. Baja's reaction would have been if the "drunk" driver turned out to just be a guy who had a heart attack at the wheel and crashed into them or something like that.

So many possibilities there.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Very sad situation. If I just watched my kids get run over, can't say I wouldn't do something similar. Maybe something with a tire iron instead.

I'm guessing the father could smell booze when he went to the driver's car...drunk people never realize they smell like the sauce

edit: I agree with sixone on this one. As the driver, it's always your responsibility to watch the fuck out for obstructions in the road. If you "can't stop fast enough" it's because you were driving too fast for the road conditions = wrecklessly.

 

[diesbudt]

The insanity defense works in less than 1% of cases it is attempted.

Incorrect information.

The insanity defense is used in less than 1% of cases. Not that it is only 1% successful. (when it has been used it has a 26% success rate)

Also temporary insanity? Is a very good defense as long as said action happened in a small tiem frame from an event that can hamper ones thought process.