fat is back in style?

[Thebobo]

She is obese. While it might be what is normal in current day society, it is in no way healthy. SHe is without a doubt at high risk for heart disease, high cholesterol, and diabetes. She probably doesn't have it now but give her a few years and she'll have some disease associated with her weight.

Lol ok Doctor Ginormous

 

[Thebobo]

NM

 

[Aikouka]

If you want to lose weight and you are eating unnecessary calories like mayo, then you are doing it wrong..especially if your method of choice has not worked out thus far!

I know how to lose weight... I've done it multiple times in my life... it isn't rocket science. This fantasy that many people just can't do it because of their bodies is ludicrous... a miniscule percentage of the population might have this problem, but it is insaaanely rare.

I sort of agree with your statement. Mayonnaise isn't really that healthy considering how many calories are in a serving of it, but as long as it doesn't throw off someone's calorie count, then who are you to judge? This is really just my opinion, but I think it's important to not have a boring diet full of boring food. Why? Because you just end up tired of eating stuff that's not that exciting or doesn't have the flavors that you're used to. In a way, dieting is as much mental as it is physical, which is why I talked above about people using weight-loss surgeries kind of eschewing the whole mental process.

Don't get me wrong, I try and avoid stuff like mayonnaise or certain salad dressings. If I have to use them, I'll go for light or fat free, which can have a significant difference calorie-wise (25% of the regular variant or less). If I want to add a little spice to a sandwich, which I rarely eat, I would go with something like hot sauce, which usually has no calories.

 

[nehalem256]

no, exercise is way more important, you can eat like total shit but if you're doing the work you will burn every last bit

Sorry, but if you look at how many calories exercise burns it becomes pretty clear it is nearly impossible to lose weight by eating like total shit and doing any reasonable amount of exercise.

What exercise will do is help you lose weight faster, which will provide motivation when you see the pounds melting away, or allowing you to eat a bit less restrictive diet, so you don't go crazy and quit.

And exercise has benefits beyond simply burning calories.

 

[BoberFett]

no, exercise is way more important, you can eat like total shit but if you're doing the work you will burn every last bit

Let me guess, you're thinking of football players bulking up and eating everything in sight? We're not talking about building muscle. We're talking about losing fat. And that requires a change in diet. Look at how many calories are burned by typical types of exercise, and compare it to what's in a Big Mac.

http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist.htm

An hour of high impact aerobics will burn off a Big Mac. So what does that do for the fattie that downs TWO Big Macs for their meal?

Diet is far more important for losing weight. You don't have to burn off calories if you don't shove them down your gullet to begin with.

 

[TheVrolok]

Fun fact - bodily fat =/= poor health. Also, as I posted earlier, researchers are finding that people in the overweight category (note - overweight, not obese) have a lower health related mortality rate than people who are considered normal weight.

Fun fact - mortality =/= morbidity (also, decreased mortality does not necessarily = healthier).

And if you're anything like my father or brother, no matter how much you exercise, you'll never get rid of that gut.

Wrong.

 

[Lavans]

Fun fact - mortality =/= morbidity (also, decreased mortality does not necessarily = healthier).



Wrong.

You're right. Decreased mortaility =/= healthier, but its a pretty good indication of it.

I'm wrong about my own father and brother? Sorry. I guess you know them better than I do. When I say "gut", how big are you picturing?

 

[Nintendesert]

All you disgusting skinny-fat people need to shut up and go for a run. Disgusting things.

 

[It's Not Lupus]

Hold on. Running won't help skinny-fatness. Do you even lift?

 

[rga]

I sort of agree with your statement. Mayonnaise isn't really that healthy considering how many calories are in a serving of it, but as long as it doesn't throw off someone's calorie count, then who are you to judge? This is really just my opinion, but I think it's important to not have a boring diet full of boring food. Why? Because you just end up tired of eating stuff that's not that exciting or doesn't have the flavors that you're used to. In a way, dieting is as much mental as it is physical, which is why I talked above about people using weight-loss surgeries kind of eschewing the whole mental process.

Don't get me wrong, I try and avoid stuff like mayonnaise or certain salad dressings. If I have to use them, I'll go for light or fat free, which can have a significant difference calorie-wise (25% of the regular variant or less). If I want to add a little spice to a sandwich, which I rarely eat, I would go with something like hot sauce, which usually has no calories.

You should avoid fat when trying to lose it. Fat makes you fat, right? Go for bread, rice, pasta, and any other whole grain.

 

[TheVrolok]

You're right. Decreased mortaility =/= healthier, but its a pretty good indication of it.

I'm wrong about my own father and brother? Sorry. I guess you know them better than I do. When I say "gut", how big are you picturing?

I don't know what the measurement definition of gut is, however, I do know that if you survive in a caloric deficit long enough you will lose fat (and eventually muscle, and bone) to the point where you do not have any "gut" whatsoever. It's a fact.

 

[lagokc]

Two years ago, federal researchers found that overweight people had the lowest mortality rate of any weight group. Investigating further, they were able to link causes of death to specific weights. Obese people had more deaths from heart disease, they reported last week. And thin people? They had more deaths from everything but cancer and heart disease.

The thing is, your weight isn't a constant. It fluctuates over time. As people get older they generally get fatter. If you're dieing thin there's a good chance you're also dieing young. :hmm:

 

[lagokc]

You should avoid fat when trying to lose it. Fat makes you fat, right? Go for bread, rice, pasta, and any other whole grain.

Not sure if sarcastic, it doesn't really come through well in writing.

Breads are just carbs which may as well be sugar which your body will happily store in fat cells. You're better off eating less grain, more legumes. That way the protein and fiber keeps you feeling full and actually gives you nutrition.

 

[colonelciller]

Fun fact - bodily fat =/= poor health. Also, as I posted earlier, researchers are finding that people in the overweight category (note - overweight, not obese) have a lower health related mortality rate than people who are considered normal weight.



And if you're anything like my father or brother, no matter how much you exercise, you'll never get rid of that gut.

would you mind posting the PubMed links to those research articles please?

 

[colonelciller]

The thing is, your weight isn't a constant. It fluctuates over time. As people get older they generally get fatter. If you're dieing thin there's a good chance you're also dieing young. :hmm:

or just living to a ripe old age outside of America... where obesity is the norm

 

[colonelciller]

Sorry, but if you look at how many calories exercise burns it becomes pretty clear it is nearly impossible to lose weight by eating like total shit and doing any reasonable amount of exercise.

What exercise will do is help you lose weight faster, which will provide motivation when you see the pounds melting away, or allowing you to eat a bit less restrictive diet, so you don't go crazy and quit.

And exercise has benefits beyond simply burning calories.

I've personally witnessed countless people losing an average of 10-20 pounds while puting on lean muscle mass through exercise and simultaneously consuming 2500-3500 calories every day. i guess we have different ideas of what is "reasonable"

 

[leper84]

The girl in the op isn't really 'fat'. Looking at her other photos she is built kinda big. She does have a few extra pounds, specially in the thighs, but not that bad. Chunky but she carries it well. She could use some exercise to tone up but I bet she'd still look 'big' regardless.

The problem is people who really are fat, like morbidly obese fat, use models like in the op to justify their own lack of self control. Problem is while some girls are just built big like that model, most aren't, and shouldn't have an excuse for being overweight. I don't hate on fat people, but when they aren't built big and they don't have a REAL medical condition for being fat they can't expect the rest of the world to just force themselves to be attracted to them. Models are people society WANTS to look at. I'm sorry as a whole we decided fat chicks are NOT that. Either get in shape or find something different in your life to focus on, you can't have something only just because you want it.

Forcing values when it comes to physical attraction just bothers me. I really just get tired of this argument that personality is the single thing that matters; nothing about physical attraction should matter when dating for example. When are these people going to realize that the personality flaws that allowed them to get so huge are just as much of a turn off as 40-50lbs of useless flesh hanging off of their body? If we play nice and accept it the problem just gets worse and worse.

 

[wirednuts]

shes out of shape. its not fat, but she isnt a hard body either. you guys want to see real cows come here to wisconsin.

 

[videogames101]

An hour of high impact aerobics will burn off a Big Mac. So what does that do for the fattie that downs TWO Big Macs for their meal?

Then workout for two hours.

Am I missing something?

Let me guess, you're thinking of football players bulking up and eating everything in sight? We're not talking about building muscle. We're talking about losing fat.

If you're trying to burn fat with straight cardio you are doing it wrong. More people need to have a look at a weight room.


The typical test:
Walk into a gym. Take a look at the people on treadmills and cardio machines, then take a look at the people in the weight room. The differences really speak for themselves. Take your pick.


As fair disclosure I'm currently working out with a former football player =)

 

[QueBert]

Let me guess, you're thinking of football players bulking up and eating everything in sight? We're not talking about building muscle. We're talking about losing fat. And that requires a change in diet. Look at how many calories are burned by typical types of exercise, and compare it to what's in a Big Mac.

http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist.htm

An hour of high impact aerobics will burn off a Big Mac. So what does that do for the fattie that downs TWO Big Macs for their meal?

Diet is far more important for losing weight. You don't have to burn off calories if you don't shove them down your gullet to begin with.

No it doesn't, I went from 240 to 170 and I still ate like shit, I just ate less. I guess you could consider less food a change in diet, but I was eating the exact same foods. As for the bold, I dunno it burns off HALF their meal? You need calories, there's important. If you only eat 1 big mac and busted your ass doing Insanity you'd be at a caloric deficiency. Burning more calories than you intake isn't a good or healthy thing. When I use to work out for 2 hours a day I had to eat more food to supplement my calories.

 

[TheSlamma]

Last time it was in style was when it was a sign of wealth over the starving peasants. But not since then.

OP it was not in style in the 90's.

 

[I Saw OJ]

Some of you all are crazy. A woman with some curves is a beautiful sight.

 

[shadow9d9]

Some of you all are crazy. A woman with some curves is a beautiful sight.

Almost all women have curves.. that woman has a stomach on her as well as fat throughout the rest of her body.

 

[ichy]

Not sure why I'm posting to this, but...

Most plus size models are about six feet tall and a size 12. That may be a little zafting but it's certainly not huge.

 

[ichy]

Hold on. Running won't help skinny-fatness. Do you even lift?

It will give you stronger & better looking legs.