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Saw people struggling to maintain 60 fps 1080p on a single 7970.
You're anguishing over nothing. It doesn't need cross-fire support to be playable. The game puts a cap of 60 FPS unless you futz with it. I'm running a single GTX 970 at 1920 x 1200, and I'm at 60 FPS all the time with max quality settings.
 
You guys know there are more quests in Fallout 4 than either 3 or New Vegas, right? Fallout 3 has 28 named quests, and a further 21 unmarked ones, prior to the DLC. New Vegas has 101. Fallout 4 has 140. 8 of those named quests are the randomly generated ones that show up so often.

Maybe you aren't talking to the right people?

if I cant find them, how do I talk to them?
 
Listen to the radio. Listen to people talking in the background. Read notes. Talk to people that aren't directly quest related but seem to be important people.
 
To that, I'll add "explore." There are a lot of quests that you get just by going to interesting locations. Vault 81 has 5 quests associated with it, and there's nothing forcing you to go to Vault 81 other than the fact that it's a vault icon that shows up if you go anywhere near Diamond City.
 
To that, I'll add "explore." There are a lot of quests that you get just by going to interesting locations. Vault 81 has 5 quests associated with it, and there's nothing forcing you to go to Vault 81 other than the fact that it's a vault icon that shows up if you go anywhere near Diamond City.

There are a few conversations that yield map hints on it too, or at least one.
 
You know my main problem with ammo is too much of it, like 4000+ of virtually every type, enough for a small war lol.
I use ammo for barter. Buy the shipments of every material a vendor has, and pay with ammo and drugs I never use. I have no use for .38, .45, 5mm, missles, 10mm, .50 cal, flamer fuel, or mini nukes anymore. I use .380, 5.56mm, 12ga. and energy weapons. Most have multiple types of damage.

Used drugs early on, but long since dispensed with any need for their assistance. Only reason for caps beyond shipments and fusion cores, is building stores for settlements. I rarely buy anything else. I have 90 or so fusion cores now.

10 sets of power armor at this point. A couple are cobbled together. I will probably start buying every frame vendors have, and set those up. I use the 45f the most, since I only need steel, and for the torso, circuitry, for repairs. I have the perk for double life on the cores as well.

My latest goal is getting the perk from every companion. The backstories on each, and sleeping with all the girls. I cannot see me finishing the first playthrough in less than 300hrs. Heck, the expansion may hit before I am done.
 
shrug. I'm not the only one saYing it has less quest..

http://gamerant.com/fallout-4-has-less-quests-than-skyrim/
Sigh. That someone else is also wrong doesn't make you correct. This isn't a matter of opinion; there's objective evidence that Fallout 4 has more quests than prior games in the series. It's not something you can put up to a vote.

It's entirely possible that the randomly generated quests are having a negative effect on your subjective experience. That there are obvious, repetitive quests that it's nearly impossible to miss might be causing you to ignore or downplay the other quests. If you've got 3-4 open quests, you might be thinking you don't need to put in the effort to find more, for example.

Or you might be looking at the number of times you're getting the random quests, and treating them as the "majority" of the quests, even though they're actually a tiny subset of the quests available.

Maybe Fallout should have included a World of Warcraft option, where quest givers had yellow symbols over their heads. After all, Fallout 4's a pretty big world with a lot of NPCs, and it's difficult to sift through them all, even if you're only looking at the ones with proper names.

I know that finding all those quests can sometimes be work. I wandered into Vault 81 very late, and since I'd gotten to the point where I had all the experience, weapons, ammo, caps, and materials I could ever want, I was thinking more about finishing the game than looking for quests. As a consequence, I didn't uncover the quest chain there, since I did little more than take the 5 cap tour and do a little trading.
 
Sigh. That someone else is also wrong doesn't make you correct. This isn't a matter of opinion; there's objective evidence that Fallout 4 has more quests than prior games in the series. It's not something you can put up to a vote.

It's entirely possible that the randomly generated quests are having a negative effect on your subjective experience. That there are obvious, repetitive quests that it's nearly impossible to miss might be causing you to ignore or downplay the other quests. If you've got 3-4 open quests, you might be thinking you don't need to put in the effort to find more, for example.

Or you might be looking at the number of times you're getting the random quests, and treating them as the "majority" of the quests, even though they're actually a tiny subset of the quests available.

Maybe Fallout should have included a World of Warcraft option, where quest givers had yellow symbols over their heads. After all, Fallout 4's a pretty big world with a lot of NPCs, and it's difficult to sift through them all, even if you're only looking at the ones with proper names.

I know that finding all those quests can sometimes be work. I wandered into Vault 81 very late, and since I'd gotten to the point where I had all the experience, weapons, ammo, caps, and materials I could ever want, I was thinking more about finishing the game than looking for quests. As a consequence, I didn't uncover the quest chain there, since I did little more than take the 5 cap tour and do a little trading.

ROFL> ok.

you can get butthurt. but i'm not the only one saying it feels like that Fallout 4 has less quest.

IT IS OPINION though. sorry if offends you or you don't like it. lol
 
ROFL> ok.

you can get butthurt. but i'm not the only one saying it feels like that Fallout 4 has less quest.

IT IS OPINION though. sorry if offends you or you don't like it. lol

yeah, I'd be curious about this "objective evidence" on simple quest number being greater. If it exists, then perhaps one can link to it?

The argument seems to be that it is objectively greater in number because of the existence of repeatable quests...well in that case the number of quests should approach infinity, no? In that case, it isn't a solid argument.

Now, it's certainly possible based on my experience that FO4 would have more quests--I didn't play NV or FO3 nearly as long as FO4 (just a situational thing, I suppose. Fatigue earlier on in those games and other options on the horizon that I wanted to try). I'd say that I certainly prefer NV to FO4, where FO4 is a slightly upgraded FO3 with, perhaps, a bit more content.

But I don't recall the same type of repeatable quests, most of which are related to settlements that, while a huge portion of the game, is entirely skippable. I also don't recall the "I lost my cat! please go outside and tell my cat to come back!" type of ..."quests" in NV. 😀
 
I use ammo for barter. Buy the shipments of every material a vendor has, and pay with ammo and drugs I never use. I have no use for .38, .45, 5mm, missles, 10mm, .50 cal, flamer fuel, or mini nukes anymore. I use .380, 5.56mm, 12ga. and energy weapons. Most have multiple types of damage.

Used drugs early on, but long since dispensed with any need for their assistance. Only reason for caps beyond shipments and fusion cores, is building stores for settlements. I rarely buy anything else. I have 90 or so fusion cores now.

10 sets of power armor at this point. A couple are cobbled together. I will probably start buying every frame vendors have, and set those up. I use the 45f the most, since I only need steel, and for the torso, circuitry, for repairs. I have the perk for double life on the cores as well.

My latest goal is getting the perk from every companion. The backstories on each, and sleeping with all the girls. I cannot see me finishing the first playthrough in less than 300hrs. Heck, the expansion may hit before I am done.

the 10mm is useless after a few hours in, the rest depend on gun. Mini nukes are fun. I have a big boy that shoots, 2 then splits into like 8 mini nukes. its fun to use on deathclaw's. Though i like using the plasma rifle the most. I swear i can't use core's fast enough. I find so many now its insane.

I stopped looking for power armor at around 10 sets. I have even found 3 sets i haven't bothered to take back to camp. i have a full set of each so figured that was enough. sleeping with all the girls? lol

So far i'm only racked in 103 hours of playing. granted most of that exploring now i'm trying to get sanctuary built up nicely. Also thinking of building the island to the east (forgot it's name). the castle can die for all i care i just don't care for it.
 
but i'm not the only one saying it feels like that Fallout 4 has less quest.
You have reading comprehension issues, apparently. And also seem to think that repeating yourself is somehow a compelling argument, and that "28 > 140" is an opinion.
 
You have reading comprehension issues, apparently. And also seem to think that repeating yourself is somehow a compelling argument, and that "28 > 140" is an opinion.

You already responded to this same comment, an hour ago, with a very long and tedious argument that...impresses few.

Why is this such a personal issue for you? :hmm:
 
You have reading comprehension issues, apparently. And also seem to think that repeating yourself is somehow a compelling argument, and that "28 > 140" is an opinion.

DO you work for them? you seem to get pretty butthurt over a opinion. From the start i said "gotta say after 100ish hours im dispointed in the game. Just doesn't seem to be as much in it as other games.

few enemies, fewer quest and the map is much smaller (1/4th under water).
Yesterday 05:37 PM"


THat is 100% opinion. god damn you need to chill out lol
 
Well then they're idiots, because Fallout 4 is actually a crap game without plugins. Bethesda seems to have learned very little since Morrowind and they never release top notch games. You need to fix them yourself.
The good news is they have a mod-making and plugin system so you CAN fix them. In the end I have more fun with Bethesda games than all the others.



Well, except Kerbal. Those little green potatoes are just awesome.
:awe:
I've actually found it the opposite. I found both Fallout 3 and New Vegas to be not worth playing until heavily modded, but I am happily playing Fallout 4 without any mods, even ini fixes.
 
yeah, I'd be curious about this "objective evidence" on simple quest number being greater. If it exists, then perhaps one can link to it?
Do you guys really not know about the existence of the Wiki?

Fallout 3 quests.
Fallout 4 quests.

The argument seems to be that it is objectively greater in number because of the existence of repeatable quests...well in that case the number of quests should approach infinity, no? In that case, it isn't a solid argument.
Since I didn't make that argument, and explicitly mentioned that 8 of the 140 quests are the randomly-generated ones, I agree it's not a solid argument.

I do think that the randomly-generated quests can detract from the game experience, for a variety of reasons. Because they keep coming back, it's easy to get the feeling that they're most of the quests, even though there are only a handful of them, and over a hundred non-random quests.
 
you seem to get pretty butthurt over a opinion.
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

I do find stupidity annoying. Insisting that 28 > 140 is true because you believe it to be true, and thus only a matter of opinion, is stupid. It doesn't particularly hurt my butt, though. I do appreciate your concern and fascination with my butt.
 
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

I do find stupidity annoying. Insisting that 28 > 140 is true because you believe it to be true, and thus only a matter of opinion, is stupid. It doesn't particularly hurt my butt, though. I do appreciate your concern and fascination with my butt.

you try to act like you are a smart person. But you keep going on about shit you really don't understand.

1) nowhere did i say 28>140

nowhere did i say that I know for FACT that fallout 4 has less quest then skyrim.

again

i said

"gotta say after 100ish hours im dispointed in the game. Just doesn't seem to be as much in it as other games.

few enemies, fewer quest and the map is much smaller (1/4th under water).
Yesterday 05:37 PM"

god damn fuck THAT IS A OPINION. I also pointed out i am not the only one FEELING (guess what..thats opinion too) that way.
 
shrug. I'm not the only one saYing it has less quest..

http://gamerant.com/fallout-4-has-less-quests-than-skyrim/


as i said. It seems most of the ques ti get are the same "Setlement A is under attack from whatever" or kidnapping. etc. etc. sure wondering around you do find some. but again nowhere near what i had in skyrim.
But again that were your missing the point there are over 120 quests that are not part of the faction repeating quests. Is larger than NV and a huge amount over F3. I don't know how it compares to Skyrim, as I haven't played that.
 
But again that were your missing the point there are over 120 quests that are not part of the faction repeating quests. Is larger than NV and a huge amount over F3. I don't know how it compares to Skyrim, as I haven't played that.

I may be missing in some quest I'n not fully finished with main quest line. I'm not debating that. I said that it has a TON Of quest that repeat itself. not much in the way of variation as skyrim had

It feels a LOT smaller then skyrim. Even wondering around i found more quest and stuff. shrug i said it sure feels smaller.


Also the map in F4 is smaller then it seems since a good area of it is covered by water and only afew things worth finding. (the sub is a great quest though)
 
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