Fallout 4 - it's official! Coming Nov 10, '15

[cmdrdredd]

Well if it wasn't for the modders, the game would be a quick play-once and uninstall.

That's Bethesda's problem. I played The Witcher 3 for something like 80 hours for a single playthrough. I'm playing it a second time currently.

A good game will keep you going, especially when there are multiple outcomes for quests etc. Who's fault is it if you think that if modders didn't do all kinds of work that you wouldn't touch it again after the initial play through?

 

[OCNewbie]

lol

 

[futurefields]

That's funny, I got several hundred hours in Fallout 3. One playthrough. Unmodded.

 

[zinfamous]

People over exaggerated the witcher 3 anyway but this game can't downgrade. It's not looking like top tier graphics to begin with.

indeed. Nothing in that video looks better than Witcher 3 looks on release, so, really...no worries there.

 

[cmdrdredd]

That's funny, I got several hundred hours in Fallout 3. One playthrough. Unmodded.

I did when it released too. The point is that Bethesda always ships games with average quality assets(graphically), stiff characters etc. Then modders pickup the slack and adjust these things a bit. Which is fine of course. I'm just saying that Bethesda can do better and should aim to do better, IMO.

 

[zinfamous]

There's lots of games that do that though. The problem is that other games give you more of a reason to do what you do. Make you care

I think the problem with Skyrim wasn't that the overall story was bad, it just fell flat in the 3rd act. It started great, progressed superbly through several main missions, but just seemed to peter out near the end...which is like every Miyazake film that I have ever seen, basically.

Not just the story, but the world didn't really evolve in any meaningful way to what you are doing, on top of overpowering your character so early on, so easily, the urgency and direness of whatever situation you had to deal with never lasted long enough to carry that story in the 3rd act.

However, the faction missions were so amazing, some of them the best content in any RPG that I ever played, it made up for that...but at the same time--none of those mattered in the end. You could be the master of all houses, be everything, everyone feared you and everyone still thought you were a peasant. ...not much to it.

Still the best time I've ever had exploring a game world, though.

 

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[zinfamous]

I can see how the main story is important, but overall it isn't what makes a FO game great. I didn't like NV due to the "cowboy" theme and the fact I had no idea why I was chasing some guy just because he shot me. Overall though the setting was the killer, old casinos, cowboy hats, etc. I still played it 13hrs or so but couldn't bring myself to finish it.

The main stories in FO have always been rather lame. FO: go find a water filter, please. ...something you can actually do rather quickly and skip 90% of the game, game over.

The first game established the point of the series: exploration, setting, making the world the way you experience, whatever you happen to choose and wherever you happen to go on a playthrough.

Anyone remember StarCraft 2? to beat it--you had a real clock, you had to be at the right place before the invaders passed through. It's possible that you never even learn that, or where to go, before you lose. There is so much to explore in between, so many things you can uncover and miss. And because of that time limit, it is impossible to do it all on a playthrough.

 

[sandorski]

That's funny, I got several hundred hours in Fallout 3. One playthrough. Unmodded.

Ya. I was so immersed I spent half the game gathering everything possible. The Super Market and many other places didn't have anything of any value left in it. I was like the Janitor of the Wastes.

Subsequent Plays of it I didn't bother, since I knew it wasn't necessary to do or that I then knew of more lucrative activities.

 

[futurefields]

Ya. I was so immersed I spent half the game gathering everything possible. The Super Market and many other places didn't have anything of any value left in it. I was like the Janitor of the Wastes.

Yeah my house in Megaton is so stocked up. TV dinners in the fridge. Enough guns and armor to kill every Enclave trooper from DC to San Francisco.



btw finally tried that iclampfps trick for Fallout 3. It's is running butter smooth now!

 

[shortylickens]

Well if it wasn't for the modders, the game would be a quick play-once and uninstall.

Indeed.


Well, to be fair New Vegas got a bunch of expansions and each of them added loads of gameplay.

Skyrim only got two expansions that added gameplay and one expansion that added something which should have been there in the first place. Bastards.

 

[Igo69]

Why does it look exactly like fallout 3 but with a better graphics? :thumbsdown:

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Its Bethesda - graphical achievement should not be expected. Good voice work should also not be expected. What they are good at is designing a compelling world, a good story, and fun gameplay.

 

[videogames101]

Another FO3 mod? Color me wanting.

 

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[shortylickens]

Skyrim was a joke in 2011, but don't forget that Oblivion had people's eyes popping out of their heads when it was released.

Umm, both of those statements are a little off from reality.

 

[escrow4]

I don't mod games. If you release a $60 AAA title (and spent millions developing it to boot) it should be up to scratch in all departments. Once tried modding Skyrim, performance sucked, it looked a bit better, meh, deleted it and reinstalled vanilla. I only put around 60 hours into the GOTY edition of Fallout 3. Only played through 3 or 4 of the DLCs though. It was good but not Witcher good.

 

[Imp]

Steam counter says I put 166 hours into Fallout: New Vegas. Probably did about the same with Fallout 3. Can't wait.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I don't mod games. If you release a $60 AAA title (and spent millions developing it to boot) it should be up to scratch in all departments. Once tried modding Skyrim, performance sucked, it looked a bit better, meh, deleted it and reinstalled vanilla. I only put around 60 hours into the GOTY edition of Fallout 3. Only played through 3 or 4 of the DLCs though. It was good but not Witcher good.

Well a lot of the mods are for taste... for example SkyTweaks, Immersive Armours, Forgotten Magic, Frostfall ... etc. Others are basically mini and sometimes full DLC sized (Moonpath to Elysewhere) or complete make-overs (Nehrim).

Witcher itself could really use some mods. A first person mod would be nice.

 

[thehotsung8701A]

Look unimpressive for my soon to be gaming rig. At least I'll be able to run it in eyefinity on max with good fps.

 

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[escrow4]

So you think Skyrim was really competitive with BF3 etc? No, it looked like shit for a 2011 game. Look at things like it's hideous shadows, poor character models, low res textures and the quality of it's distant terrain. It was only a modest improvement on Oblivion. By 2006 standards, however, Oblivion was very impressive. I haven't heard many people try to argue otherwise. It's usually me complaining about Oblivion's graphics, about how inconsistent they are (same applies to Skyrim), but under favorable conditions it could look better than any other game at the time. Even I won't deny it that.

Its a mystery how anyone could actually play Oblivion. The entire game is a trite cliché of western fantasy down to the setting. Its like the Wheel of Time, shiny and clean and rather dull. Good vs Evil again. Save the world again. Go fetch me 34 different herbs and animal skins again. Skyrim was a fat improvement though still cut n paste.

 

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[PrincessFrosty]

I want to fap to this news but I am also worried that they're going to have like a 2017 release date. At which point I will be very dissapoint.

This.

I'm super excited for Fallout 4, I've been a fan of the games ever since the original back in the day, it's a fantastic IP. However I'm concerned that we could be waiting quite some time before we see this which is going to be a painful wait.

 

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