blackened23
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Mantle is clearly backing Nvidia (JHH) into a corner.
There are going to be 2 confirmed Mantle titles next year which are definite confirmed release dates. Thief and BF4. That's it. Star Citizen? Unknown release date. Or I should say, they're releasing modules slowly as they're getting crowd funding. Last I heard the complete full game with all modules isn't slated until 2015. Other frostbite titles were rumored to have Mantle but will not - see NFS: Rivals. That game has a 30 fps limit too. I'm sure mantle would help a lot for that 30 fps hard coded limit, even with the graphics looking terrible. Other frostbite titles? Unknown unconfirmed release dates. Moreover, the most important engine to get Mantle into will not have it. Unreal engine 3 and 4 will not have native Mantle support - Epic games and Tim Sweeney in particular have expressed clearly that they have no desire to use Mantle or proprietary APIs. That's a huge deal because Unreal Engine is *the* most commonly used multiplatform engine in 80% of all multiplatform games. Therefore any developer using UE4 will have to rewrite a significant portion of the engine's code to use Mantle, which costs significant time, money and resources.
Pretty sure physx will have more titles than Mantle next year. I don't really care about physx that much yet reading this title makes one think that 100% of titles will have Mantle next year - excuse me while I roll my eyes. Cuz that isn't happening - few games will use it in 2014, with 2 confirmed release dates so far. (the already released BF4, and thief as mentioned..) Also, reading this daily dose of comedy thread, one would think NV is on the brink of bankruptcy because of Mantle alone. Hilarious. Anyway, yeah. Backed into a corner. While having 65% discrete GPU market share in Q3 2013, up from 62% discrete GPU market share @ Q3 2012. Being that discrete sales went from 50-50 in 2010 to almost 7 in 10 buying nvidia in 2013, I think nvidia knows what they're doing to please PC gamers. Maybe they're not pleasing crypto coin miners, but the demographic that matters - PC gamers - a lot of them do like nvidia. In fact, it seems the majority of PC gamers are preferring nvidia based on dGPU share alone.
Don't get me wrong. I think Mantle is great for competition and hope it does well. I also think AMD needed to use value added features to help sell their cards, and Mantle is a good start. Value added software features is precisely why nvidia has done so well in the past couple of years with their increasing dGPU market share. So while I think mantle is great, I have to laugh at the level of hyperbole (about Mantle) in this thread.
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