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[MomentsofSanity]

Waaaaaanity exploded last night it was a pleasure to watch. The amount of lies that come out of his mouth are amazing.

I read he even corrected himself after saying it right to say "President Clinton"at one point.

 

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Something from WaPo coming up.

While Papadopolous is important we should also remember that there are consequences which go beyond potential impeachment. Trump likes to keep scientists away from scientific positions and pursuits but what we learned yesterday may help defeat a right wing radio host from holding one such office.

I'm trying to find the reference, but there's also some very shady ties between Clovis and the spreading of the Hillary/Uranium One fake news. He's involved in that in some way.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I read he even corrected himself after saying it right to say "President Clinton"at one point.

Whoa, he's really scared.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm trying to find the reference, but there's also some very shady ties between Clovis and the spreading of the Hillary/Uranium One fake news. He's involved in that in some way.

I'd love to see at least three things brought during the Clovis conformation. As this is a scientist position I'd toss him a highly technical scientific document half an hour before the meeting and ask him questions as an expert, then when he flubs it go into his qualifications then smack him with Papadopolous and raise questions about his holding any position in government. Pretty much make it embarrassing for any Republican to justify his appointment no matter how much they may be in someone's pocket.

 

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I'd love to see at least three things brought during the Clovis conformation. As this is a scientist position I'd toss him a highly technical scientific document half an hour before the meeting and ask him questions as an expert, then when he flubs it go into his qualifications then smack him with Papadopolous and raise questions about his holding any position in government. Pretty much make it embarrassing for any Republican to justify his appointment no matter how much they may be in someone's pocket.

Outside of maybe Elaine Chao and obviously Mattis...was qualification ever important for a Trump nomination? Ben Carson and Betsy DeVos were approved. They have zero experience in any capacity for those positions. Yet here we are.

 

[fskimospy]

I read he even corrected himself after saying it right to say "President Clinton"at one point.

I think people like Sean Hannity secretly wish Clinton were the president. They make their livings by stoking outrage in their listeners and that’s way easier to do when the Others control the government. You can see it here too: sure they try and defend Trump somewhat but where they really shine is alleging more Clinton conspiracies.

She’s been politically irrelevant for a year now and Republicans are still furiously attempting to smear her in order to distract from their own failures. It’s the only playbook they know.

 

[emperus]

I think the stunner in all this is that the Trump administration knew before it became public that the Russians had Clinton's emails.

 

[Stokely]

I think people like Sean Hannity secretly wish Clinton were the president. They make their livings by stoking outrage in their listeners and that’s way easier to do when the Others control the government. You can see it here too: sure they try and defend Trump somewhat but where they really shine is alleging more Clinton conspiracies.

She’s been politically irrelevant for a year now and Republicans are still furiously attempting to smear her in order to distract from their own failures. It’s the only playbook they know.

I don't think there's any question about this. The modern GOP functions well only when they are opposing. This applies to the current Congress--you can see how prepared they were after seven years with a well-thought-out health plan; they came up with something that looked like two interns did it over the weekend. They not only thought Hillary would win, I bet they wanted her to win. They could have continued doing what they did with Obama: paint her as the boogeyman and shoot down every effort she made to get anything done, amidst deafening cheers from the faithful for their "defense of the Heartland and American Values (tm)".

Not that the Democrats are much better, but they don't seem as eager to seek out boogeymen to lay all the problems on. I mean, commies, darkies, socialists, gays, muslims, liberals...the list goes on and on, so many enemies at the gate! Who but the GOP will save us?!

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I think people like Sean Hannity secretly wish Clinton were the president. They make their livings by stoking outrage in their listeners and that’s way easier to do when the Others control the government. You can see it here too: sure they try and defend Trump somewhat but where they really shine is alleging more Clinton conspiracies.

She’s been politically irrelevant for a year now and Republicans are still furiously attempting to smear her in order to distract from their own failures. It’s the only playbook they know.

What else can they do? They don't know how to do anything but demonize and oppose. Right now they have no one. There is no figurehead for the Democrat party. And they are like lost children fumbling in the dark.

 

[jackstar7]

I think people like Sean Hannity secretly wish Clinton were the president. They make their livings by stoking outrage in their listeners and that’s way easier to do when the Others control the government. You can see it here too: sure they try and defend Trump somewhat but where they really shine is alleging more Clinton conspiracies.

She’s been politically irrelevant for a year now and Republicans are still furiously attempting to smear her in order to distract from their own failures. It’s the only playbook they know.

I'd say the secret is out.

 

[zinfamous]

Waaaaaanity exploded last night it was a pleasure to watch. The amount of lies that come out of his mouth are amazing.

amazing how Hannity's whining pretty much mirrors the exact gist of Brandonbull's derp post last night, that appeared about 1-2 hours? after this broadcast. So predictable. Dummy didn't even bother to edit the talking points.

 

[brycejones]

I think people like Sean Hannity secretly wish Clinton were the president. They make their livings by stoking outrage in their listeners and that’s way easier to do when the Others control the government. You can see it here too: sure they try and defend Trump somewhat but where they really shine is alleging more Clinton conspiracies.

She’s been politically irrelevant for a year now and Republicans are still furiously attempting to smear her in order to distract from their own failures. It’s the only playbook they know.

But how else does the Outrage Industrial Complex make money? The problem is the nattering nabobs of negativism that is Hannity, Rush, Brietbart, etc etc etc really don't care about policy. They have spent decades building a business on keeping people angry and afraid and it depends on being able to provide simplistic answers and demonize the others. Overtime they have also become the "thought" leaders for the base of the GOP and now the party leadership isn't even in control of the party anymore.

TLDR the GOP is fucked long term and its because they've let con men set their agenda for decades now.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm no Fox fan however I will say the opposing news always does better. Perceived bad thing effect us more than perceived good things. MSNBC's rating are up bigly to what I understand.

 

[TraumaRN]

I think the stunner in all this is that the Trump administration knew before it became public that the Russians had Clinton's emails.

And whoever knew that could get slapped with an aiding and abetting charge(amongst other things.)

There is just so much here for Mueller to work with. I know the iceberg analogy has been worked to death but he truly knows a metric ton more than any of us, including the Trump admin.

 

[evident]

What's Flynn been up to?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I wonder how many months or years this thread will be actively discussed?
I really have no idea.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What's Flynn been up to?

Hiding in a Spider Hole

 

[Thebobo]

I think the stunner in all this is that the Trump administration knew before it became public that the Russians had Clinton's emails.

And did not notify the FBI or like.

 

[TraumaRN]

What's Flynn been up to?

Given that we've heard absolutely nothing about him, he's probably flipped for Mueller. Remember he offered to flip earlier in the year and it's mostly been radio silence since.

 

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Given that we've heard absolutely nothing about him, he's probably flipped for Mueller. Remember he offered to flip earlier in the year and it's mostly been radio silence since.

That's my guess as well. All the rumblings about his son getting scrutiny are just there to squeeze harder and keep him honest.

 

[hal2kilo]

What's Flynn been up to?

That's been bugging me too. What angle are they working Flynn with. He at least lied to the FBI, and acted as a foreign agent without registering. Maybe he's not such a big fish. They got his son though so, I would think he's under a lot of pressure and talking. I don't think his going to go down with the ship like Liddy either.

 

[IronWing]

My guess is that Flynn listened to his lawyer and STF right U.

 

[woolfe9998]

I think the stunner in all this is that the Trump administration knew before it became public that the Russians had Clinton's emails.

Yes, Trump found out back in March, if not sooner, that the Russians had those e-mails, yet has claimed skepticism over Russia's involvement with the hacking ever since. Not a thing Trump ever says can be believed, but that much we already knew prior to yesterday.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yes, Trump found out back in March, if not sooner, that the Russians had those e-mails, yet has claimed skepticism over Russia's involvement with the hacking ever since. Not a thing Trump ever says can be believed, but that much we already knew prior to yesterday.

It was probably the 400lb man that they got the emails from.

 

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It was probably the 400lb man that they got the emails from.

Hmmmm....you don't say....