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MomentsofSanity said:
I keep seeing different sites that say Papadopoulos has been cooperating for two months and lots of mentions of possibly being wired up. Can't find anything solid on that though. No actual source. Just lots talking about it.
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Third, a paragraph in the plea agreement indicates that Mr. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty on Oct. 5 and the plea was sealed so that he could act as a “proactive cooperator.” The meaning of that phrase is unclear. But one nerve-racking possible implication is that Mr. Papadopoulos has recently worn a wire in conversations with other former campaign officials.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/opinion/george-papadopoulus-manafort-indictment.html
(NY Times article.....I've found opening NY Times links in a private window kinda foils their paywall.....sometimes.....)
 
From the NT times link above.
"Third, a paragraph in the plea agreement indicates that Mr. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty on Oct. 5 and the plea was sealed so that he could act as a “proactive cooperator.” The meaning of that phrase is unclear. But one nerve-racking possible implication is that Mr. Papadopoulos has recently worn a wire in conversations with other former campaign officials. This will surely have members of Mr. Trump’s inner circle agonizing about the possibility and wondering who else might have been similarly cooperating with the investigation.

Fourth, the plea agreement makes clear the Trump campaign knew about the hacking of Democratic National Committee emails well before it was publicly revealed. The email account of the chairman of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, John Podesta, was hacked March 19, and Mr. Papadopoulos was approached with the offer of thousands of emails on April 26, at least a month before it was generally known and several months before WikiLeaks released any of the emails."

Very well written article with some points I wasn't aware off. The wire component is pretty interesting because you know behind closed doors the Trump campaign and lawyers have been talking/strategizing and maybe Mr P has been a little FBI rat the whole time, recording all their intimate thoughts and schemes for Mr Mueller to use.
 
Let me get this straight... is the Trumptard mindset that it was crooked Hillary that got the Trump campaign to talk to the Russians?
 
evident said:
Let me get this straight... is the Trumptard mindset that it was crooked Hillary that got the Trump campaign to talk to the Russians?
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yes, shillary/billary/killary is responsible for all trump's misdoings.

also, anyone with the last name podesta.
 
Looks like banging the Benghazi drum in a frenzy and loudly clanging the Russian uranium bell in the bell tower is not going to have the usual effect it has on those that are easily distracted by it. Well, except for those whose TV's have only one Fair and Balanced News Network channel and a Tvangelist one of course.

The Mueller Big Time Indictment Review and Dinner Show is in town and anybody who's anybody has got their eyes and ears glued to it. Trump can tweet all he likes, FOX can get as ridiculously frantic and fake as they like and they could even parade bootiful nekked showgirls commentators in front of the cameras but it ain't going to matter none.
I mean, we all know Trump is dirty from way before he decided to run for POTUS. We know the people he surrounds himself with is just as dirty or worse. The only thing that matters now is how well Trump has covered his tracks, during, prior and after his electoral campaign.

And from the looks of things, like with his failed casinos, it looks like he didn't do a good job of that either.
 
Just an interesting observation about today. I walk through a couple buildings each morning on my way to my office. There's 3 different newspaper kiosks along my way. I usually make an effort to at least glance at the main headline on the paper each morning. This morning I couldn't find a single kiosk with a paper in it. I don't remember that ever happening in close to 4 years.
 
alien42 said:
yes, shillary/billary/killary is responsible for all trump's misdoings.

also, anyone with the last name podesta.
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You forgot Illary--remember when she was just too sick and frail to even walk up stairs and would be dead within a week? Remember that? How she was barely conscious, all the while orchestrating all these complex, vile conspiracies that go back decades (even before she was born) and many that are only set to go in motion 50 years from now, and how directly her hands were within each minute detail of the various conspiracies?

All while she was minutes from death!
 
vi edit said:
Just an interesting observation about today. I walk through a couple buildings each morning on my way to my office. There's 3 different newspaper kiosks along my way. I usually make an effort to at least glance at the main headline on the paper each morning. This morning I couldn't find a single kiosk with a paper in it. I don't remember that ever happening in close to 4 years.
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Kentucky, right? 😀

...or is it just that everyone actually grabbed the papers, like it was 1952 or something?
 
Sunburn74 said:
From the NT times link above.
"Third, a paragraph in the plea agreement indicates that Mr. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty on Oct. 5 and the plea was sealed so that he could act as a “proactive cooperator.” The meaning of that phrase is unclear. But one nerve-racking possible implication is that Mr. Papadopoulos has recently worn a wire in conversations with other former campaign officials. This will surely have members of Mr. Trump’s inner circle agonizing about the possibility and wondering who else might have been similarly cooperating with the investigation.

Fourth, the plea agreement makes clear the Trump campaign knew about the hacking of Democratic National Committee emails well before it was publicly revealed. The email account of the chairman of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, John Podesta, was hacked March 19, and Mr. Papadopoulos was approached with the offer of thousands of emails on April 26, at least a month before it was generally known and several months before WikiLeaks released any of the emails."

Very well written article with some points I wasn't aware off. The wire component is pretty interesting because you know behind closed doors the Trump campaign and lawyers have been talking/strategizing and maybe Mr P has been a little FBI rat the whole time, recording all their intimate thoughts and schemes for Mr Mueller to use.
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And keep in mind ole Georgie was in London on October 25 2017. Check his twitter page it's a picture of him in a business suit and briefcase with only this hashtag #business

If you read his plea he's not allowed to travel except to DC, Northern Virginia and Illinois. If you think he wasn't wearing a wire and that Mueller's team was behind him being in London then I got a bridge to sell you in the desert.

Oh and where he's standing? It's outside Harrods in London. About 2 blocks from the Ecuadorian Embassy 😉

https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/923078894634270720
 
Interesting point I heard last night. Remember that Mueller going into Trumps finances were a red line as Trump said. This could get real interesting.
 
Just posting this for the record. I expect the usual suspects to start repeating Papa (I'm not going to attempt spelling) was not part of the campaign

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Fanatical Meat said:
Just posting this for the record. I expect the usual suspects to start repeating Papa (I'm not going to attempt spelling) was not part of the campaign

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That table isn't even bigly enough for Trump to be sitting at not to mention the fact that only bottled water is present. Trump needs some tang to maintain his orange appearance.😛
 
Something from WaPo coming up.

While Papadopolous is important we should also remember that there are consequences which go beyond potential impeachment. Trump likes to keep scientists away from scientific positions and pursuits but what we learned yesterday may help defeat a right wing radio host from holding one such office.
Sam Clovis is about to be in the hot seat.

The former Iowa radio host and social conservative activist is awaiting Senate confirmation to serve in the Agriculture Department’s top scientific post. His confirmation hearing is expected next month.

Victoria Toensing, an attorney for Clovis, confirmed to our Rosalind Helderman that several references in court filings to “the campaign supervisor” refer to the former radio host from Iowa, who served as Trump’s national campaign co-chairman.

“At one point, Papadopoulos emailed Clovis and other campaign officials about a March 24, 2016, meeting he had in London with a professor, who had introduced him to the Russian ambassador and a Russian woman he described as ‘Putin’s niece,’” Helderman reports. “The group had talked about arranging a meeting ‘between us and the Russian leadership to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under President Trump,’ Papadopoulos wrote. (Papadopoulos later learned that the woman was not Putin’s niece, and while he expected to meet the ambassador, he never did, according to filings.) Clovis responded that he would ‘work it through the campaign,’ adding, ‘great work,’ according to court documents.

“In August 2016, Clovis responded to efforts by Papadopoulos to organize an ‘off the record’ meeting with Russian officials. ‘I would encourage you’ and another foreign policy adviser to the campaign to ‘make the trip, if it is feasible,’ Clovis wrote. Toensing said Clovis ‘always vigorously opposed any Russian trip for Donald Trump and/or the campaign.’ She said his responses to Papadopoulos were courtesy by ‘a polite gentleman from Iowa.’”
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Waaaaaanity exploded last night it was a pleasure to watch. The amount of lies that come out of his mouth are amazing.

 
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