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It really all depends on what your definition of sex is. And what do you mean by "is"?
 

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n. 1. A flag, banner, or ensign, especially: a. The ensign of a chief of state, nation, or city.
b. A long, tapering flag bearing heraldic devices distinctive of a person or corporation.
c. An emblem or flag of an army, raised on a pole to indicate the rallying point in battle.
d. The colors of a mounted or motorized military unit.

2. a. An acknowledged measure of comparison for quantitative or qualitative value; a criterion.
b. An object that under specified conditions defines, represents, or records the magnitude of a unit.

3. The set proportion by weight of gold or silver to alloy metal prescribed for use in coinage.
4. The commodity or commodities used to back a monetary system.
5. Something, such as a practice or a product, that is widely recognized or employed, especially because of its excellence.
6. a. A degree or level of requirement, excellence, or attainment.
b. A requirement of moral conduct. Often used in the plural.

7. Chiefly British A grade level in elementary schools.
8. A pedestal, stand, or base.
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b. One of the narrow upright petals of an iris. Also called banner, vexillum.

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adj. 1. Serving as or conforming to a standard of measurement or value.
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5. Commonly used or supplied: standard car equipment.
6. Linguistics Conforming to established educated usage in speech or writing.

Whose standards?
 

Nik

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If you knew anything about debating, you would know the importance of defining terms.

You are just being absurd, my friend.

No, see, you ask a question that we answer. You then reply with a petty question. We answer it. You turn that answer into another petty question.

You demand links.

We give you links.

You refuse to read them, reply with more petty questions.

We ask you pointed questions about what YOU believe and you refuse to answer them, but do reply with more petty questions "What do you mean by..."

But, then again, you know all of this because you're only kinda retarded not completely retarded.

:rolleyes:

You know what you're doing and you're doing it on purpose. That's fine. We can play the same game and have been for pages.

You aren't the first of your ilk to come here and get spanked by logic and reason. You certainly won't be the last.

Now go back to being a reasonable discussion participant or GTFO.
 

Nik

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Come on Man! Godwin? really? That was where you decided to take it? :rolleyes:

He doesn't have anywhere else to take the conversation, obviously. This entire thread is proof of that. So are the other threads before this one.

He's just another mindless zealot who wants to play games.
 
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Come on Man! Godwin? really? That was where you decided to take it? :rolleyes:

I think that the statement was completely apporpriate.


Closet racists tend to avoid owning their views on race. They often point to other groups, using terms such as "they," or "those people".
 

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I think that the statement was completely apporpriate.


Closet racists tend to avoid owning their views on race. They often point to other groups, using terms such as "they," or "those people".

Are you really stupid enough to believe that, instead of referring to a religion or a group of particularly low-IQ individuals, that I meant race?

Where did race come into any of this?
 

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It was really clever the 118th time.

You asked the first 117 versions.

Would you care to act like an adult yet? You have yet to answer ANY of my legitimate questions in this thread (or anyone else's, for that matter).

You are absolutely the WORST debater I've ever seen on these forums and I've been here a freakin decade.

I mean, fuck, you're worse than I was when I was a bible thumper here.
 
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Are you really stupid enough to believe that, instead of referring to a religion or a group of particularly low-IQ individuals, that I meant race?

Where did race come into any of this?

Oh, so it's Christians that are "those people". Where do Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc fit in. Are they "those people" too? Are you an equal opportunity religious bigot?
 

Nik

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Oh, so it's Christians that are "those people". Where do Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc fit in. Are they "those people" too? Are you an equal opportunity religious bigot?

If you knew what bigot meant, you'd know it wouldn't fit with being equal opportunity.

Again, before you introduced the concept of race into this, when did ANYONE mention any kind of race?

Hmm?

Are you going to reply with another bullshit question, refusing to address the issue?
 
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If you knew what bigot meant, you'd know it wouldn't fit with being equal opportunity.

Again, before you introduced the concept of race into this, when did ANYONE mention any kind of race?

Hmm?

Are you going to reply with another bullshit question, refusing to address the issue?

The term you used, "those people", is often associated with racism, but it can easily be associated with hatred of other groups of people.
 

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It really all depends on what your definition of sex is. And what do you mean by "is"?
Y'know, I've always been bothered by the way people mocked these comments by President Clinton. I mean, no doubt, he was trying to weasel around things, so I'm not trying to defend his testimony, per se, but the fact is that "sex" and "is," while obviously short and easy to spell, do not have totally rigorous definitions in common usage.

Is a hand job "sex"? It's certainly sexual, but is it "sex"? Mutual masturbation is sexual, but few would call that "sex." There is a bit of arbitrariness in deciding what activities fall into the category of "sex."

It's even worse with "is," which is what bothers me the most when people make fun of it like it should be obvious. "Is" can denote an identity, or it can simply denote attribution. It easily causes confusion because of its ambiguous meanings, particularly in the reification of abstractions.

It just seems painfully sophomoric to mock the suggestion of valid distinctions as if the fact that the word is only two letters must mean that it's meaning is also very simple and obvious.

Think of it this way: "is" is the present tense of the verb "to be." What is the meaning of "to be"? What does it mean to be? What is being? These are questions that may have no real clear answer at all, and they have challenged philosophers for centuries to find good answers, but still we just carry on using the word a thousand times a day as if its meaning were a given.

Anyway, that's my little rant/digression.

Let us return to our regularly scheduled flame war, already in progress...
 

Nik

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The term you used, "those people", is often associated with racism, but it can easily be associated with hatred of other groups of people.

Please prove that I'm racist or hate anyone.

If you can prove it, I'll admit it publicly and admit that you're right about everything.

Oh, and if you can't or if you reply with another question, you automatically agree that I'm right and that you're nothing more than an ignorant, pathetic troll. :cool:
 
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