Evidence: European e.coli superbug was bioengineered to produce human fatalities

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dullard

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1) It is pretty easy to directly build genes now. No longer do you have to do the repeated exposure to different drugs like the OP mentions. Of course, genetic engineering is still intentional. But mutations like this could happen naturally too.

2) I don't quite follow the conspiracy theory link. Duder1no could you please finish. Especially where you tie in Pharma. E. coli isn't normally treated with antibiotics since that would cause an increase in the release of the shiga toxin. The normal treatment is to flush it out with water and wait. So could you please tell me how pharma profits from this water flushing? I could see you saying it is due to PepsiCo since they profit from bottled drinks. But, I'm confused with the pharma link.
 

PokerGuy

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By the bye, I'll remember you said that the next time religion/spirituality/God is brought up.

By the by, don't bother, because that's a logic fail. Religion / Spirituality / God is about belief. There is no scientific evidence to either prove or disprove belief or morals.

OP says e.coli is a superbug engineered to produce human fatalities, but then offers up an article with some drivel but no actual evidence of anything.
 

PokerGuy

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The normal treatment is to flush it out with water and wait. So could you please tell me how pharma profits from this water flushing?

Shhhhhhhhhhh! Don't bring logic into this. I'm still waiting to see how the international consortium of banksters, the Bilderbergs, and Fort Knox with it's dwindling supply of gold play into this conspiracy!
 

DirkGently1

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Forensic evidence emerges that European e.coli superbug was bioengineered to produce human fatalities


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zsdersw

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By the by, don't bother, because that's a logic fail. Religion / Spirituality / God is about belief. There is no scientific evidence to either prove or disprove belief or morals.

The claims made by believers of religions are extraordinary.. and as such, require extraordinary proof.
 

woolfe9999

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Who knows! Screaming conspiracy is just as easy as mocking conspiracy theorists. You don't need any evidence, hell you don't even need to listen to/read the argument. Hence I was mimicking his empty post. Why are you getting so personal about this anyway, are you two an item?

Why do we need evidence to disprove someone else's theory? Who has the burden of proof here?
 

Darwin333

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the only way to stop this is to get nanobots mainstream. they man-made robots the size of cells that can be taught to go through your bloodstream and kill any specific type of virus or bacteria you choose. i really think they will pretty much eliminate a lot of our virus problems.

Until the nanobots become sentient and take control of the entire human population!
 

PokerGuy

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The claims made by believers of religions are extraordinary.. and as such, require extraordinary proof.

Sure, if someone tries to convince you to join in their belief, then by all means you can require whatever proof you want. Otherwise, it seems rather silly to be talking about proof when it comes to religion and belief.
 

Macamus Prime

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Hey, remember when they proved AIDS was created by man?

Also, remember all the evidence that the common cold was created by man as well?

Oh yeah,... these never happened. But, we can add this claim to the common cold and AIDS! Yah! The sniffles and AIDS now have company!!
 

zsdersw

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Sure, if someone tries to convince you to join in their belief, then by all means you can require whatever proof you want. Otherwise, it seems rather silly to be talking about proof when it comes to religion and belief.

Religious beliefs are at the center of many public policy decisions locally and nationally, so proselytizing need not be involved for the burden of proof to be relevant.
 

Mark R

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There's a lot wrong with that article.

1. Bacteria frequently interchange DNA via plasmids. This is a well recognised natural process, and can result in DNA from one strain to another, or even one species to another.

2. ESBL is an important factor. However, if a bacterium captures an ESBL gene from a plasmid, then that single gene potentially confers resistance to 5 of the 8 classes of antibiotic described in the article. ESBLs while relatively uncommon, are nevertheless a significant problem in hospitals, and most hospitals will have detailed policies for dealing with such infections.

I gave up reading after the 1st section - the article just degenerated into insane tinfoil gibbering after that.
 

sandorski

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2 Facts should be noted:

1) Evolution
2) The over use of Anti-Biotics in Agriculture

There's no need for a Laboratory to cause resistant bacteria.
 

IceBergSLiM

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2 Facts should be noted:

1) Evolution
2) The over use of Anti-Biotics in Agriculture


There's no need for a Laboratory to cause resistant bacteria.

both those points were mentioned and countered and made to seem extremely improbable.
 

Doppel

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Any links to articles from actual real news stories? I am not reading OP on something so outrageous unless some other news org is willing to put their neck on the line.
 

Jhhnn

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Yeah, a terrorist attack by the drug companies upon innocent people, as usual…

That's conspiracy theory unsupported by anything else that's been offered.

Bio-engineered? Maybe, maybe not. By whom? Attribution requires one conjecture upon another with nothing more than paranoia in support.
 

Jhhnn

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how about because i did not really say all that shit

i provided the source link at the bottom of my op

that's why

Things like that will happen when you fail at proper attribution.

OK, you didn't say it. How would I be able to figure that out from your original post? Ouija board, divine inspiration, or what?
 

CallMeJoe

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I got as far as
...where did it acquire all this antibiotic resistance given the fact that antibiotics are not used in vegetables?
and realized that the OP had no clue concerning Escherichia coli or farming.