EVGA offers a sneak peek at Nvidia's next dual-GPU monster

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cusideabelincoln

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You "logic" is hillarious.

You don't know the GPU's used, nor their clocks...so they are invalid "topics"...but the wattage (which also is unkonw) is valid?

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LOL, I'm laughing.

He never said discussing the GPUs was invalid. In contrary he said the opposite...

So, if we don't discuss power, which could give us a hint at 1 and 2 above,

In all fairness Wreckage cannot troll a Nvidia thread, when he's pro Nvidia without help from the red side being where they don't belong and trolling themselves.
This "side" thing is annoying as ****.
 

evolucion8

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Is it a gtx 590 or 595? , performance, is it just a Evga product, and yes what will it compete with.

Not the 6990 will be better then the Nvidia offering or why or how or who and who is a troll.

In all fairness Wreckage cannot troll a Nvidia thread, when he's pro Nvidia without help from the red side being where they don't belong and trolling themselves.


Let just stop the bickering
thanks guys

English?
 

Skurge

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You "logic" is hillarious.

You don't know the GPU's used, nor their clocks...so they are invalid "topics"...but the wattage (which also is unkonw) is valid?

:facepalm:

Your logic is even worse, Power is the key to finding out which GPU could be used at which clocks.

Have something to add to the thread or do you wanna keep taking cheap shots at people.
 

Lonbjerg

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No one is talking about the wattage of the GPUs being used on this card, they are speculating about what might be possible to be used based on the fact that there are power limits, based on the wattage of "regular" cards using the possible GPUs.
E.g. "It might be a downclocked GTX570 or it could be GF114 or GF104". Those speculations are determined based on the wattage of those cards, and previous dual GPU and single GPU cards and how they correlated in terms of power characteristics.

Or do you want us also to discuss the physical appearance of the card and not speculate on what GPUs might be used?

If I had any interset in multi-GPU, my only consern would be performance.
Wattage on a dual-GPU is even more retarded than on a single GPU...it's like whining about the MPG on a Veron (dual V8)...
 

Wreckage

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Just for fun I will throw this gasoline onto the fire.

The true 595 could be a pair of un-announced mobile chips.

This card may just be an EVGA creation using current off the shelf parts.

Also if anyone was truly worried about watts, they would only have a laptop.
 

Lonbjerg

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Just for fun I will throw this gasoline onto the fire.

The true 595 could be a pair of un-announced mobile chips.

This card may just be an EVGA creation using current off the shelf parts.

Also if anyone was truly worried about watts, they would only have a laptop.

Don't you mean netbook..as there are some "gaming" laptops out there...
 

Skurge

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If I had any interset in multi-GPU, my only consern would be performance.
Wattage on a dual-GPU is even more retarded than on a single GPU...it's like whining about the MPG on a Veron (dual V8)...

So what are you doing in this thread if you aren't interested in Dual GPU cards. Derailing it thats what, and you should stop.

Your analogy is another fail. A Veyron, doesn't have a limit to how much fuel it can use, graphics cards have a limit to the amount of power they can use.
 
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Lonyo

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If I had any interset in multi-GPU, my only consern would be performance.
Wattage on a dual-GPU is even more retarded than on a single GPU...it's like whining about the MPG on a Veron (dual V8)...

Ugh, are you a freaking idiot? Seriously?
No one is "concerned" about wattage, or whining about it, they just UNDERSTAND what its importance is.
No one is saying "I hope this dual GPU card doesn't use too much power", they are saying "the PCIe specification limits a single graphics card, whether a single GPU or 3000000000 GPUs, to 300w of power. That means this dual GPU card, if it wants to adhere to the PCIe standards, must use no more than 300w of power. What can they achieve, assuming that they are working within the power limit of the PCIe specification?"

The PCIe 2.0 specification limits a single card to 300w of power use. End of. That makes power important in terms of the technical specs of the card, it is also the limiting factor in terms of performance, since the top end single GPU cards use more than 150w, so doubling them takes you over the 300w PCIe 2.0 power limit.
 

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Why not just release a triple 8 pin gtx 595 beast @ 550 clocks, with a bad ass cooler, and let the enthusiast overclock it sky high? No more 300 watt problems. :)

It worked for the gtx460.
 

mnewsham

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Why not just release a triple 8 pin gtx 595 beast @ 550 clocks, with a bad ass cooler, and let the enthusiast overclock it sky high? No more 300 watt problems. :)

It worked for the gtx460.

Might as well put a button on the side that when pressed exceeds pci voltage spec automatically.
 

Skurge

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Why not just release a triple 8 pin gtx 595 beast @ 550 clocks, with a bad ass cooler, and let the enthusiast overclock it sky high? No more 300 watt problems. :)

It worked for the gtx460.

The card will have varying performance. I might pay 599 and get a 50% OC, you might pay 599 and get a 20% OC. How would you know what performance you are really getting? Not to mention the card will be reviewed at stock clocks.
 

mnewsham

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The card will have varying performance. I might pay 599 and get a 50% OC, you might pay 599 and get a 20% OC. How would you know what performance you are really getting? Not to mention the card will be reviewed at stock clocks.

Most reviews OC anyway, if it is known to be an OC only card then I doubt you will find a review not oc'd.
 

Skurge

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Most reviews OC anyway, if it is known to be an OC only card then I doubt you will find a review not oc'd.

Thats just the thing. Will it represent the majority of the cards on the market or did the company just send them a card with specially binned GPUs?

Anandtech had a problem with the 5970. AMD says the card can be easily clocked to 5870 speeds. While the GPUs could do it, the vrm were not adequately cooled for that task. Other reviewers on the other hand had no such problems.
 

Keysplayr

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Ok, so now that we have established which members would descend on a dual Nvidia GPU thread only to take it off topic, shall I ask for a lock to this thread and start another with the title "Nvidia fans only please" ? Or would someone else like to do it?
I'm all for good conversation, but the preening has GOT to stop. Like now.

Or perhaps requesting a heavily moderated thread. Those are rather successful if a moderator concedes to one.
 

badb0y

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It's not even about AMD fans or nVidia fans, it people just being idiotic now. Oh, and BTW no matter what your stance is on power consumption, the fact of the matter is that nVidia and AMD both need to comply with the specifications regardless of what we say, that's why the max TDP of the 5970 was something like 294W, so I suggest people stop trolling.
 

evolucion8

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So what are you doing in this thread if you aren't interested in Dual GPU cards. Derailing it thats what, and you should stop.

Your analogy is another fail. A Veyron, doesn't have a limit to how much fuel it can use, graphics cards have a limit to the amount of power they can use.

Another fail is also his grammar, consern :biggrin:

Originally Posted by Lonbjerg
If I had any interset in multi-GPU, my only consern would be performance.

But it would be interesting to use a mobile part to create the GTX 595, but also would means that it would underperform.


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Grooveriding

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Ok, so now that we have established which members would descend on a dual Nvidia GPU thread only to take it off topic, shall I ask for a lock to this thread and start another with the title "Nvidia fans only please" ? Or would someone else like to do it?
I'm all for good conversation, but the preening has GOT to stop. Like now.

Or perhaps requesting a heavily moderated thread. Those are rather successful if a moderator concedes to one.


We already have one thread, thanks.

Please make us a thread to discuss the upcoming AMD 6990 dual-gpu monster! At least it is announced and confirmed.

Now that it's been established this is some sort of EVGA custom card and not an nvidia reference card. :cool:
 

Keysplayr

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We already have one thread, thanks.

Please make us a thread to discuss the upcoming AMD 6990 dual-gpu monster! At least it is announced and confirmed.

Now that it's been established this is some sort of EVGA custom card and not an nvidia reference card. :cool:

Fine, I'll ask for the heavily moderated thread then. Thanks for your input.
 

badb0y

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This is OT but since we are talking about dual GPU cards, anyone have any information on what happened to the dual GTX 470 card that was displayed a few months ago? Did they scrap it since the GTX 5xx series came out?
 

Castiel

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Dual 470 won't be coming out as it's been discontinued and the 560 will be taking its place
 

Lonyo

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This is OT but since we are talking about dual GPU cards, anyone have any information on what happened to the dual GTX 470 card that was displayed a few months ago? Did they scrap it since the GTX 5xx series came out?

There have been at least a couple of displayed dual GPU cards based on NV GPUs (GTX470 and GTX460) that never saw the light of day, it seems like they all got left behind and never became real products.
 

Mark R

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The PCIe 2.0 specification limits a single card to 300w of power use. End of. That makes power important in terms of the technical specs of the card, it is also the limiting factor in terms of performance, since the top end single GPU cards use more than 150w, so doubling them takes you over the 300w PCIe 2.0 power limit.

The PCIe 2.0 specication also limits cards to a maximum height of 15 mm. However, nVidia has seen fit to ignore that specification.

There's nothing to stop them ignoring the 300 W power limit specification and adding additional power connectors.
 

Lonbjerg

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Another fail is also his grammar, consern :biggrin:

Originally Posted by Lonbjerg
If I had any interset in multi-GPU, my only consern would be performance.

But it would be interesting to use a mobile part to create the GTX 595, but also would means that it would underperform.

English is far from my first language, I speak 4...but thanks for the Ad Hominem :thumbsdown:
 

badb0y

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The PCIe 2.0 specication also limits cards to a maximum height of 15 mm. However, nVidia has seen fit to ignore that specification.

There's nothing to stop them ignoring the 300 W power limit specification and adding additional power connectors.
I don't think anyone has crossed the power limit yet but if they do, well than the PCIe specifications might as well not have existed at all.