EVGA offers a sneak peek at Nvidia's next dual-GPU monster

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Lonyo

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Interestingly, you could have said the same to both conspiritors, but elected only to issue the slight toward Wreckage. Be fair please. Both sides were freely cherry picking and posting the graphs they wanted everyone to see.

Actually I wasn't 'cherry picking' as such, but pointing out that there (somehow) isn't a consensus over which uses more power.
 

Keysplayr

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Actually I wasn't 'cherry picking' as such, but pointing out that there (somehow) isn't a consensus over which uses more power.

You posted too? I didn't notice. Only Wreckage and Evolucion8 are the two I was referring to. But chances are, whichever graphs/benches were chosen, it was to further ones point. You wouldn't pick a graph (and they are plentiful) that contradicts your point. Nobody would. So, they are pointless.
 

evolucion8

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You posted too? I didn't notice. Only Wreckage and Evolucion8 are the two I was referring to. But chances are, whichever graphs/benches were chosen, it was to further ones point. You wouldn't pick a graph (and they are plentiful) that contradicts your point. Nobody would. So, they are pointless.

I wasn't cherry picking, I posted different links from several popular sites! Wreckage was the only one who always posted the same single link across all threads, obviously is cherry picked. Results will vary from site to site, but I'm quite sure that if we sum all of them, it would still proving my point.
 

Wreckage

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Still with the obsesion with Techreport which always favors nVidia cards due to bribes?

Of course you ignored the other 2 links I posted. But that's your modus operandi. I guess most sites are bribed by NVIDIA, that's the only explanation for AMD failures. You must have one impressive aluminum foil sombrero.

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I wasn't cherry picking, I posted different links from several popular sites! Wreckage was the only one who always posted the same single link across all threads, obviously is cherry picked. Results will vary from site to site, but I'm quite sure that if we sum all of them, it would still proving my point.

Just to be clear Xbit and Hardwarecanucks are also part of your conspiracy theory?
 
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Lonyo

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Of course you ignored the other 2 links I posted. But that's your modus operandi. I guess most sites are bribed by NVIDIA, that's the only explanation for AMD failures. You must have one impressive aluminum foil sombrero.

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The fact is there's no consensus over which uses more power, with various sites showing one or the other using more. Of course, none of that matters when you consider that neither GPU will be used as clocked/volted if they are used on a dual GPU card, since either would still draw too much power.
 

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The fact is there's no consensus over which uses more power, with various sites showing one or the other using more. Of course, none of that matters when you consider that neither GPU will be used as clocked/volted if they are used on a dual GPU card, since either would still draw too much power.

This is true. bravo. knowone really knows how much either of these cards needs to be underclocked.
 

evolucion8

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Of course you ignored the other 2 links I posted. But that's your modus operandi. I guess most sites are bribed by NVIDIA, that's the only explanation for AMD failures. You must have one impressive aluminum foil sombrero.

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Just to be clear Xbit and Hardwarecanucks are also part of your conspiracy theory?

Well, I think that's the opposite. Look at the signatures of your popular posts of several members here and look how in a bad light you are.

I posted more than 4 links from different sites and you only posted two and one of them is the same old techreport link which seems to be multipurpose for you.
 

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I'm surprised no one has speculated that the gtx595 could be a hybrid gtx570/580 of some sort.... they could be fully functional 512 core chips running at ~715mhz, but only 320 bit memory interfaces enabled (instead of 384). Dropping the gtx580 from 772 to 715mhz, coupled with 1 less active memory controller and less ram would go a long ways in both ensuring TDP is kept under control while delivering the best possible x2 performing card.

Just food for thought...
 

Wreckage

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Well, I think that's the opposite. Look at the signatures of your popular posts of several members here and look how in a bad light you are.
Don't hate me because I am beautiful. So what if I'm popular and people like you quote me to try and bask in my glow. I find it flattering.

I posted more than 4 links from different sites and you only posted two and one of them is the same old techreport link which seems to be multipurpose for you.

EDIT: LOL! I just noticed that you used Hardwarecanucks power figures from an older article, but when I use them.....It's cherrypicking.... LOL!1!!!1
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31040845&postcount=98

I posted 3 actually. Just because a site proves you wrong does not make them biased. Maybe look in the mirror a bit. Either way your FUD has gone too far off-topic.

Back on topic. This card looks to be a monster. While I'm not big on the dual-gpu thing. I look forward to reviews. :thumbsup:
 
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I'm surprised no one has speculated that the gtx595 could be a hybrid gtx570/580 of some sort.... they could be fully functional 512 core chips running at ~715mhz, but only 320 bit memory interfaces enabled (instead of 384). Dropping the gtx580 from 772 to 715mhz, coupled with 1 less active memory controller and less ram would go a long ways in both ensuring TDP is kept under control while delivering the best possible x2 performing card.

Just food for thought...

The weird arrangement on the back shows something like a 256bit bus. So it could be a 570/580 with a much smaller bus than usual.
 

Lonbjerg

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Funny how som people value wattage over performance...but only when their flavour dosn't have the fastest GPU :whiste:

(If you do the math ($$$ wise) it get hillarious....)
 

Lonyo

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Funny how som people value wattage over performance...but only when their flavour dosn't have the fastest GPU :whiste:

(If you do the math ($$$ wise) it get hillarious....)

Um. Did you even check the topic you are in?
Your post is just pure troll.
We're in a thread about dual GPU cards.
Dual GPU cards use two GPUs, often the highest end GPU. They have to be downclocked or downvolted because PCIe has a 300w power limit to remain within official spec.

Therefore, when talking about high end dual GPU cards, power consumption is a very important factor, since it's basically THE limiting factor on these cards. Both NV and AMD with the GTX295 and HD5970 were capped by the 300w PCIe power limit.

No one is "valuing" anything over anything else. You can't value performance over wattage when you are power capped though, it's ALL ABOUT power when talking about a dual GPU card at this level. Power and power efficiency/performance per watt.

If you want to troll, do it elsewhere. If you think power isn't important, that's fine, but in this situation it IS important.
 

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The weird arrangement on the back shows something like a 256bit bus. So it could be a 570/580 with a much smaller bus than usual.

If it is indeed a 256 bit bus, they will have to be going with 2GB of VRAM if they can manage to use GF110 cores or all that power will be wasted in any appropriate application, 2560x1600 or multi-monitor gaming.

If it is only using GF114 cores then it would make sense to have 1GB as the card will not be shooting for the fastest.

I can't see this though, why release this card unless nvidia is trying to get back the performance crown. These types of cards are always aimed at taking the fastest card slot. The only exception I can remember to this was the 4850X2.

I would assume they are targeting the 6990 with this card and are going to have to use 2 570s or 580s to manage that. Maybe they will be able to do what AMD did with the 5970 and downclock them enough to meet 300W and leave it the buyer to overclock the card.

AMD will definitely be doing that with the 6990 like they did with the 5970. Even if this card is not faster than a 6990, if they release it before the 6990, nv can manage to break the 16 month reign AMD has had , even if it's only for a couple weeks. :cool:
 

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I was reading over at XS that this is a EVGA creation and not an Nvidia creation. 256 bit bus pretty much makes it a 590 with two GF114's
 

Lonyo

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No your in a thread about a NVIDIA dual gpu card.
Some people decided to troll it and change it into a wattage/performance thread about AMD and Nvidia.

I'm the OP. :)

Um, what else are we supposed to discuss except for wattage/performance?
Should we discuss the GPU being used? Well we don't know that.
Should we discuss the performance? We don't know that.
Should we discuss what it will compete against? Apparently we're not allowed to according to the OP.

So, if we don't discuss power, which could give us a hint at 1 and 2 above, what should we be discussing, pray tell?
Your thread, you get it "back on track", whatever the track is, since it's apparently not potential performance based on power, or potentially what GPUs might be being used (based on power), or what it might compete against.

Your OP doesn't actually have any content besides a picture, a link and a single line which comments on what it looks like. Does that mean that discussion should be limited to its appearance?
 

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I was reading over at XS that this is a EVGA creation and not an Nvidia creation. 256 bit bus pretty much makes it a 590 with two GF114's

That would be interesting if true. So we could see a 590 and a 595.
 

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Wreckage beautiful LOLL, antagonism at its best, but back on topic, if its true that it will be a 256-Bit card, certainly is a dual GF114 like I stated before.
 

Wreckage

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And if it is true it's a pair of 560's the price can't be over 500 bucks or no one would buy it.

Well it would depend on performance of course. If this was a 590 and not a true 595 I imagine it would not be over $500. As I don't imagine a 595 being over $600.

So now we get to speculate on both this card and a reference dual GPU card.
 

Castiel

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Well it would depend on performance of course. If this was a 590 and not a true 595 I imagine it would not be over $500. As I don't imagine a 595 being over $600.

So now we get to speculate on both this card and a reference dual GPU card.

EVGA could shock us and sell it for 449.99 which i'd shell out in a heartbeat
 

Lonbjerg

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Um, what else are we supposed to discuss except for wattage/performance?
Should we discuss the GPU being used? Well we don't know that.
Should we discuss the performance? We don't know that.
Should we discuss what it will compete against? Apparently we're not allowed to according to the OP.

So, if we don't discuss power, which could give us a hint at 1 and 2 above, what should we be discussing, pray tell?
Your thread, you get it "back on track", whatever the track is, since it's apparently not potential performance based on power, or potentially what GPUs might be being used (based on power), or what it might compete against.

Your OP doesn't actually have any content besides a picture, a link and a single line which comments on what it looks like. Does that mean that discussion should be limited to its appearance?

You "logic" is hillarious.

You don't know the GPU's used, nor their clocks...so they are invalid "topics"...but the wattage (which also is unkonw) is valid?

:facepalm:
 

Lonyo

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You "logic" is hillarious.

You don't know the GPU's used, nor their clocks...so they are invalid "topics"...but the wattage (which also is unkonw) is valid?

:facepalm:

No one is talking about the wattage of the GPUs being used on this card, they are speculating about what might be possible to be used based on the fact that there are power limits, based on the wattage of "regular" cards using the possible GPUs.
E.g. "It might be a downclocked GTX570 or it could be GF114 or GF104". Those speculations are determined based on the wattage of those cards, and previous dual GPU and single GPU cards and how they correlated in terms of power characteristics.

Or do you want us also to discuss the physical appearance of the card and not speculate on what GPUs might be used?

Its not "my" logic, it's the logic of various posters in this thread.

#1 http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31033876&postcount=14
#2 http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31034171&postcount=22
#3 http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31034726&postcount=23
#4 http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31035274&postcount=26

All of these speculations are based around what might be possible on a dual GPU card, and what might be possible on a dual GPU card is dictated by power consumption.
 
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happy medium

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Um, what else are we supposed to discuss except for wattage/performance?
Should we discuss the GPU being used? Well we don't know that.
Should we discuss the performance? We don't know that.
Should we discuss what it will compete against? Apparently we're not allowed to according to the OP.

Is it a gtx 590 or 595? , performance, is it just a Evga product, and yes what will it compete with.

Not the 6990 will be better then the Nvidia offering or why or how or who and who is a troll.

In all fairness Wreckage cannot troll a Nvidia thread, when he's pro Nvidia without help from the red side being where they don't belong and trolling themselves.


Let just stop the bickering
thanks guys