No, the marker of an effective punishment is that it's effective, ie stops the behavior being punished, not some other arbitrary metric. Granted, guilt is effective, which is why it's pretty obvious the targets do often feel guilt/shame when their behavior/opinions are observed to largely correspond with the
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@chucky2 types, or when they're shown to lack much ethical values in general, or those values are completely subordinate to protecting said types. So appears they understand the just punishment perfectly fine. Furthermore, with targets like said types for whom that sort of guilt/shame has no purchase given they're particularly proud of lacking any remorse, seems there would be no effective punishment by your definition. Yet here we are with both reduced to nothing but tools against their own.
Now for the two mechanism special to humans: for identity I can't possibly make it more gratuitously clear that identifying with conservatism is absolutely shameful. For intellectual reason, I'll let you be the judge of whether that applies to folks whose modus operandi is playing dumb first and foremost.
