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[Seeruk]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Filing in the right category? Theres a bug already moron. Try filing anything in the "other" category, the browser crashes AFTER letting you file all the information.

Just done it with no issue as a test ... worked perfectly AND got a reply from a GM in 20 minutes asking why I was filing a 'Testing' petition 🙂

How about the massive memory leak some players have and CCP wont comment on?

Not I nor anyone in my corp (150+ people) has ever seen or mentioned this. I run TWO clients on occasion for hours on end yet am able to also do other things with other applications as though I had nothing running on my machine. Eve is one of the lightest MMORPG clients you will ever see.

You named the buddylist not working, how about location agents not working for months?

Never tried them tbh so can't comment.... still unless you are bounty hunting which you seem to think (below) isnt worthwhile... it wouldnt be an issue. Secondly when I bounty hunt I find NPC agents useless compared to real intelligence from other players (read spies :evil: )

Double, triple and quad billing my corporation for war fees?

As a regular declarer of war.... again have never ever seen it.

NPC ships vanishing into thin air during combat, making missions impossible to complete?

This I have seen... once about 2 years ago. It used to happen if you took about 45 minutes to kill a spawn which really should be polished off within 5-10 minutes. It happened mostly to those who used to kite the spawns from a distance of about 100-150km menaning eventually they went out of range. I do shedloads of level 4 missions .... hundreds of npc's killed per day and havent seen the bug in two years .... even if I did.... big deal i warp to the next one!!!

Lag, lag, lag, and more lag.

Completely and utterly fixed. Eve was a victim of its own success and the hardware upgrade they just did 2 days ago (£1million worth of 64bit solid state servers!!) has resulted in me personally being able to undock instantly even in the heavy pop systems.

Oh yeah, your suggestions are great about the different aspects of the game.

1. Mining - Chinese players have this market cornered, running multiple accounts and macro programs so they can do it while afk.

Errmmm you do realise this has absolutely no effect on YOUR ability to make money. it's also another amusing activity to pod these guys whilst afk ensuring they lose millions more than they may have made in 2-3 days of doing this. You can also screenshot or even better fraps them and send it to ccp for a ban.
It seems to me like you are on a whine here about not being able to be the uber-player... in mining in this case but lets see how the other comments go....

2. Bounty Hunting - Oops another bug, their friends kill them and collect the bounties and split them with the player that has the bounty. Genius system there.

If you know this happened you can report them and have them banned, secondly you have the satisfaction of knowing they lost all implants in the process probably worth 150-200 million isk 🙂 Anyhoooo the aim is to be the first to do it 😉 If it was as prevelant as you make it sound... you wouldnt see anyone with bounties on their head. this is obviously not the case and I have my 32 mill bounty kill from friday night in my pocket 🙂

3. Production - Everything is worthless except the "high end" tech 2 modules, the blueprints to produce this module are produced in a "lottory" of research. This lottory is once again dominated by players who run multiple accounts, because they have more chances to win. Older players can also build more research points once again.

Bull - tech 2 components are only used by about 30% of the games population. The majority of players use tech 1 components due to cost/skills whatever. You talk like their is no profit to be made in tech 1 components when in fact thats all I produce!! If you can call 'the more research you do the more chance you have of striking lucky' a lottery then fine... but I would call it REAL LIFE!

4. Trading - Yeah, thats fun.

Then don't do it!! Yet you are whining in the comment above that you want to do it but cant due to these imaginary barriers!

5. Pirating - Prey on easy targets, no challenge unless youre a griefing tool.

Who says you have to prey on easy targets? You set your own standards in this game. It's far far more lucrative to kill a well specced PVP'er than it is to kill an indie pilot. Sounds like another whine to me.

Im not going to change your mind, youre a silly fanboi. The game has many problems, enough to make me quit.

And by the sound of your post you are whiner, whining cos you cant be the best (there is no such thing in Eve), whining at the limited things you have looked at in a one-dimensional way, whining about VERY inconsequential bugs, whining about problems that dont exist and whining some more.

Here is my theory... you saved for your 'uber-twinkle-dandy-ship' piled every last penny into twinking this and twinking that and lost it all in your 1st PvP encounter... petitioned CCP to get it all back wiping the tears from your eyes and they laughed at you... so you left stomping your feet and telling mummy you were never gonna play again because they made you cry?

Just a theory based on events I have seen many times 😉

I revert back to my very 1st comment in this post

"Eve rewards those with an imagination, and does a great job of filtering out all the attention deficit dumbasses who plague other MMORPG's. That alone is enough to love Eve 🙂"

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Falloutboy
acanthus your missing allaince warfare which is the games strongest feature

and the mining you speak of is the crap no one wants to do anyway, you make major ingame money humping the highend roids in 0.0

Ahh yeah, alliance warfare, corps with alliances require you to have 20mil + Skill points, which takes months to attain, so i can either mine, trade, or run the same 12 missions over and over and over for months while i wait for skills, or do nothing, both costing me $15 a month.

If thats the only strong feature of the game, why not just charge me $100 to begin with and let me distribute "beginner points".

20mill + skill points?
I guess you have just been looking at the wrong corps when trying to get into an alliance, thats definetly for sure

Was a member of MASS for about 2 years untill I quit playing. Went through the whole alliance bit and skill requirements are usualy for only the pvp corps, others require dedication.

Eve is a different game, it doesnt hand you a way to play on a platter, it doesnt say to get this you need to go this road. It is up to you how you play the game and it up to you how you want to be rewarded.

 

[Falloutboy]

lol i've been flying in fleet in stain since 5M skillpoints and have been in a tech 2 megathron since 12M (only reason it took that long was I got sidetracked on caldari)

 

[Acanthus]

Sorry ill give you a little more backround, im what you call the "rabid hardcore gamer" type. I strive to be the best, its impossible to even become close to the best in eve without buying 5+ accounts, and time travelling to 2 years ago when the game started.

Its that simple.

Have fun being outgunned by players who are better than you.

Oh and to the people in alliances with 5M SP, LOL im sure youre featured on the wrong end of the ownage videos.

 

[Acanthus]

I went to look up a couple of those videos that show exactly what a difference skills make.

But alas, the eve webserver, which is on the exact same cluster the game is on, is lagging so bad the games website wont even load.

 

[Seeruk]

fine here

 

[Falloutboy]

dude the point is to fly a ceptor well there isonlya bout 6M or so skills you can train to make those better, so no matter if you have been in the game for 6 mounths or 3 years if you specialize in ceptors your on the same playing field, and its the same for more ships, granted the 3 year old players chars are more felxable but not nessesarly better

 

[Czar]

the videos just show that balls, skills or numbers matter, skills like I have said twice already skills just limit what you can do, not how well you can do it

 

[Seeruk]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Ahh yeah, alliance warfare, corps with alliances require you to have 20mil + Skill points, which takes months to attain, so i can either mine, trade, or run the same 12 missions over and over and over for months while i wait for skills, or do nothing, both costing me $15 a month.

If thats the only strong feature of the game, why not just charge me $100 to begin with and let me distribute "beginner points".

<Shakes head in disbelief>

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Eve rewards those with an imagination, and does a great job of filtering out all the attention deficit dumbasses who plague other MMORPG's. That alone is enough to love Eve.

- M4H

 

[Acanthus]

K, game is flawless, have fun fanbois.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
K, game is flawless, have fun fanbois.

the game has its flaw just like all games, but you are just picking things that anoy you because you cant powerlevel in eve

 

[cirrhosis]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Acanthus
K, game is flawless, have fun fanbois.

the game has its flaw just like all games, but you are just picking things that anoy you because you cant powerlevel in eve

Nuff said, really.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Acanthus
K, game is flawless, have fun fanbois.

the game has its flaw just like all games, but you are just picking things that anoy you because you cant powerlevel in eve

No, you misunderstand my beef.

My beef is until you are at a certain skill level, youre about as useful paying your monthly fee and only logging in to change skill as you are doing ANYTHING else in the game.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Acanthus
K, game is flawless, have fun fanbois.

the game has its flaw just like all games, but you are just picking things that anoy you because you cant powerlevel in eve

No, you misunderstand my beef.

My beef is until you are at a certain skill level, youre about as useful paying your monthly fee and only logging in to change skill as you are doing ANYTHING else in the game.

Exploring? Learning? Growing? Socializing? MMORPGs are about more than just ZOMGPWRLVL2TEHMAQZ, you know.

- M4H

 

[Falloutboy]

the latest dev blog was posted today he listed the various amounts of players with certain skills, and the biggest group of players is the 5-10 range, there is actually a minrotiy with over 20M

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Acanthus
K, game is flawless, have fun fanbois.

the game has its flaw just like all games, but you are just picking things that anoy you because you cant powerlevel in eve

No, you misunderstand my beef.

My beef is until you are at a certain skill level, youre about as useful paying your monthly fee and only logging in to change skill as you are doing ANYTHING else in the game.

Exploring? Learning? Growing? Socializing? MMORPGs are about more than just ZOMGPWRLVL2TEHMAQZ, you know.

- M4H

Everything has been explored, i learned the entire games mechanics in the 1st week or so, growing? wtf?

Socializing? Meh

It really boils down to being useless for the 1st 6 months, unless you enjoy doing mindless repetitive tasks or picking on players that are brand new.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy
the latest dev blog was posted today he listed the various amounts of players with certain skills, and the biggest group of players is the 5-10 range, there is actually a minrotiy with over 20M

7000 players, as much as a server in any other modern mmorpg, is not a small amount.

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Falloutboy
the latest dev blog was posted today he listed the various amounts of players with certain skills, and the biggest group of players is the 5-10 range, there is actually a minrotiy with over 20M

7000 players, as much as a server in any other modern mmorpg, is not a small amount.

whatever i'm done trying to convince you because your obviously clueless about the game and rather just stay that way. the fact is you only need 2-3M skillpoints to be effective in 0.0 as a pvper.

Hell Goonfleet a newish corp in eve is based purely on the concept of lots of low skill players. they ahve something like 800 players most of which have under a million skill points, all in tech 1 frigates owning everything in there path

 

[nsafreak]

It seems that acanthus just isn't going to get a clue about what the game is about no matter how we present it to him. Personally I've been playing the game for 6 months and I'm still having a great time and exploring new things. I'm not the best PvPer in game but a corpmate and I took out a ferox yesterday. I could've taken out the ferox on my own but the corpmate was a bit hungry for blood. The ferox barely put a dent in my armor while my armor tanked thorax (cruiser class) tore his ship to shreds.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Falloutboy
the latest dev blog was posted today he listed the various amounts of players with certain skills, and the biggest group of players is the 5-10 range, there is actually a minrotiy with over 20M

7000 players, as much as a server in any other modern mmorpg, is not a small amount.

whatever i'm done trying to convince you because your obviously clueless about the game and rather just stay that way. the fact is you only need 2-3M skillpoints to be effective in 0.0 as a pvper.

Hell Goonfleet a newish corp in eve is based purely on the concept of lots of low skill players. they ahve something like 800 players most of which have under a million skill points, all in tech 1 frigates owning everything in there path

HAHAHAH goonfleet is the corp in the video i was going to post, they get demolished in a 7 vs 2 fight, and guess who kills them? players with more skill points.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: nsafreak
It seems that acanthus just isn't going to get a clue about what the game is about no matter how we present it to him. Personally I've been playing the game for 6 months and I'm still having a great time and exploring new things. I'm not the best PvPer in game but a corpmate and I took out a ferox yesterday. I could've taken out the ferox on my own but the corpmate was a bit hungry for blood. The ferox barely put a dent in my armor while my armor tanked thorax (cruiser class) tore his ship to shreds.

You havent presented anything that points to "fun". If you like to grind missions and pvp with noobs, or stare at a trade window all day, maybe eve is fun for you.

If you want to pvp in fleet battles, breakup gate camps, run complexes, do level 4 missions, or anything else in the game that really would be considered "fun" to most people. You have to wait 6 months.

The game isnt flawless, because it sits on the same stupid "we gotta keep them PAYING" business model, rather than the "we gotta keep them PLAYING and having fun" business model. (which i will admit no MMOG to date has even attempted to accomplish)

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[nsafreak]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: nsafreak
It seems that acanthus just isn't going to get a clue about what the game is about no matter how we present it to him. Personally I've been playing the game for 6 months and I'm still having a great time and exploring new things. I'm not the best PvPer in game but a corpmate and I took out a ferox yesterday. I could've taken out the ferox on my own but the corpmate was a bit hungry for blood. The ferox barely put a dent in my armor while my armor tanked thorax (cruiser class) tore his ship to shreds.

You havent presented anything that points to "fun". If you like to grind missions and pvp with noobs, or stare at a trade window all day, maybe eve is fun for you.

If you want to pvp in fleet battles, breakup gate camps, run complexes, do level 4 missions, or anything else in the game that really would be considered "fun" to most people. You have to wait 6 months.

The game isnt flawless, because it sits on the same stupid "we gotta keep them PAYING" business model, rather than the "we gotta keep them PLAYING and having fun" business model. (which i will admit no MMOG to date has even attempted to accomplish)

edit: typos

With the exception of the level 4 missions (which may still be possible) you can do all of those things within 6 months or less of playing. Hell I do some of them on a regular basis. Sorry i don't "grind" with noobs I have fun doing a variety of different things in the game. Just depends on what my mood is on a given day.

 

[Seeruk]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire


Exploring? Learning? Growing? Socializing? MMORPGs are about more than just ZOMGPWRLVL2TEHMAQZ, you know.

- M4H

PMSL 🙂

 

[hooflung]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: nsafreak
It seems that acanthus just isn't going to get a clue about what the game is about no matter how we present it to him. Personally I've been playing the game for 6 months and I'm still having a great time and exploring new things. I'm not the best PvPer in game but a corpmate and I took out a ferox yesterday. I could've taken out the ferox on my own but the corpmate was a bit hungry for blood. The ferox barely put a dent in my armor while my armor tanked thorax (cruiser class) tore his ship to shreds.

You havent presented anything that points to "fun". If you like to grind missions and pvp with noobs, or stare at a trade window all day, maybe eve is fun for you.

If you want to pvp in fleet battles, breakup gate camps, run complexes, do level 4 missions, or anything else in the game that really would be considered "fun" to most people. You have to wait 6 months.

The game isnt flawless, because it sits on the same stupid "we gotta keep them PAYING" business model, rather than the "we gotta keep them PLAYING and having fun" business model. (which i will admit no MMOG to date has even attempted to accomplish)

edit: typos

I suppose you like to hunt your own food so you don't have to pay someone to eat too? Shoot, skin and fry some squirls lately? Fed up with a "paying" business model that doesn't meet your taste or lowers itself to your education level? You should just leave the thread because your only talking 'my fun level' vs your 'fun level' and trying to mix oppinion with jaded observation to try and come off fact bearing and objective. Fact is... you just don't know how to play the game, didn't invest what the game requires, and think fun revolves around you.