Europeans Like Bush Even Less Than Before

[imported_Ivan244]

Crimson-Actually the first thing I thought of when I read your sig is running into a room with Leon, whipping out the most excellent Magnum and watching 5 zombie heads explode as they had all lined up

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson
Well, if you really want to get down to it, Europe destroyed the Native Americans because most of it was done before we became a country.. or at least it was set in motion. So I blame Europe for that too..

An attempt to blame a genocide on someone else and then a , how very nice.

Oh, i forgot, native americans were only savages, they deserved it.

I wonder if i did the same about the holocaust and a after it, would that be appreciated?

YOU are the one saying 60 years is too long to hold people responsible in Germany.. we should be fine here in America according to your logic.

And you are as far as i am concerned, just don't bring up the history with a .

There is a difference though, the US are proud of their history of genocide, Germany is not.

How is the US proud of 'genocide'?

I guess I could say the same of Europe...I mean they have a hell of a lot more practice in it.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: biostud666

Originally posted by: bykim5
ok...so does anybody like us in Europe?

It's not the americans we don't like, it's the Bush administration. During the Clinton years, US was far more popular.

Liberals are a pushover when it comes to doing what the europeans ask. Why wouldn't y'all like that. Hell, I'd like that too if I was you. Problem is, the US is not run by europe.

KK

Nobody ever thougth it was, but here's some news for you, the world isn't run by Bush.

I really don't care what you do within your own borders, i really, really don't, but your foreign politcs affect the rest of the world and your president is acting like he owned it, it kinda pisses me off.

With us or against us? The world was with you until your morinic president decided to invade a country based on lies and deception.

Germany and France, every nation you now so despise, we were with you in Afghanistan, i know because i was there. Regarding Iraq, i don't think i need to remind you, 11 for 180 against.

I can't help but thinking about how just 60 years ago your country thought it was the master race and tried to take over Europe. There are 10's of thousands of dead American's buried in Europe because of YOUR country. I'm not sure you should be making the argument that America think its owns the World. Our track record is just a little bit better than yours. What exactly was YOUR governments motives when invading Italy? France? THAT was an invasion based on lies and deception.. and wasn't that long ago.. what we are doing is protecting our interests and probably protecting YOUR interests as well... we all have a vested interest in making sure a country with a dictator capable and willing of invading its neighbors and possibly using WMD to do it.

THAT was real terror, if someone would shout sieg heil to me on the street i would pound him into the ground.

My grandparents fled Germany with the help of a man called Wallenberg. I was born in Finland.

Maybe, just maybe, you should try to think before you write, if you think *I* don't know the history of Germany, if you think *I* am defending the actions of the Nazis, then you are FUBAR.

Now let's return to the reality, it is 2004, not 1944, and the world today is different for all countries.

Just so you realize it, the method in your signature, was used by Nazis, i believe it was Rommels idea that you are now stating in your sig.

There are quite a few people still alive who faught in WWII, apparently they don't exist anymore. I'll inform the Vets they are no longer needed and can die now.

BTW, the sig is a joke.

Yes there are people alive since then, both in the US and in Germany, does that mean anything? Anything at all? Nope.

The Germany i live in today has been recreated TWICE since then, i am a grandson of one of the jews who fled, not that that matters to you, your hate for Europeans is too strong, why? I fought in Afghanistan for the people who died in the US, remember? Germany refused to fight Iraq because the WORLDS opinion was that it was wrong, remember?

Now, *I* who would not even exist if the Nazis had caught my grandparents am one of those responisble?

I still take offence to your sig, it was a way designed by the Nazis to spare bullets.

If not for a couragous Swede, my grandparents could have been in that line.

I've had this signature for like 2 years.. and it has nothing to do with Nazi's. It has everything to do with me wanting to kill a lot of evil people in this world.. I would line up Saddam, Osama, the little North Korean midget guy, among others.. If you want to make up a meaning to make it somehow offensive to yourself, be my guest.

I have no hate for Europeans, I do not like them however playing the righteous card when there is more blood on Europe's hands than there will EVER be on the United States. And Germany is the LAST country that should be playing that card.

"World Opinion" also looked the other way as Germany started two World Wars.. just because "World Opinion" swings one way, does not mean its right. 10's of thousands of Americans are dead because of "World Opinion" 60 years ago. We are not going to make that mistake again.

If many Germans and Europeans would not have looked the other way as Germany was building up for war, your grandparents would never have needed to be recused, and millions of other Jews would probably not be dead... thats all I am saying. While you may not see Iraq as preventing another world war, I think it is the first step in preventing the deaths of thousands of Americans, Germans, French, Iraqis, Kuwaitis, Japanese, etc in the future.

It is 2004, don't get stuck in past history, many are, but what can you do about past events, except to remember and never allow it to happen again?

Who cares who did what 60 years ago when wrongdoings are going on today?

I am sorry if i played the righteous card, maybe i should have moved to the US instead, would my opinion be valid then?

You are nothing but a snob, a stuck up little twirp, looking down your nose at those lowly Europeans, do they have a right to an opinion? NO according to you, why, because of something that happend before they were even born.

I know the type, the stuck up "we are better than you, because your forefathers did wrong" types, well, now you know of my forefathers, so you try to blame it on everyone but the Nazis, eh, why?

If Europes leaders had been mindreaders then things would have gone differently, is that what you are saying? Get this you ignorant little fvck, if you could not get a spy in and out, you had nothing, you can't even imagine how it was to get information back then, so shut it.

I don't see invading Iraq as anything more than it is, they were not a threat to ANYONE, period.

Show me how they could threaten the lives of even a small neighbouring nation, Powell has admitted they couldn't, obviously you know something he doesn't.

Can any of you make a point without name calling?

Ask Kuwait if Iraq was not a threat.. ask Saudi Arabia.. I think both of those countries are very happy we are in Iraq. But OK, because you say Iraq isn't a threat, and you can call me a twirp, I guess that makes you right.. :roll:

How about we ask General Colin Powell, if anyone, he should have some insight in the matter, and he has stated that they were no threat.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Klixxer
It is 2004, don't get stuck in past history, many are, but what can you do about past events, except to remember and never allow it to happen again?

Who cares who did what 60 years ago when wrongdoings are going on today?

I am sorry if i played the righteous card, maybe i should have moved to the US instead, would my opinion be valid then?

You are nothing but a snob, a stuck up little twirp, looking down your nose at those lowly Europeans, do they have a right to an opinion? NO according to you, why, because of something that happend before they were even born.

I know the type, the stuck up "we are better than you, because your forefathers did wrong" types, well, now you know of my forefathers, so you try to blame it on everyone but the Nazis, eh, why?

If Europes leaders had been mindreaders then things would have gone differently, is that what you are saying? Get this you ignorant little fvck, if you could not get a spy in and out, you had nothing, you can't even imagine how it was to get information back then, so shut it.

I don't see invading Iraq as anything more than it is, they were not a threat to ANYONE, period.

Show me how they could threaten the lives of even a small neighbouring nation, Powell has admitted they couldn't, obviously you know something he doesn't.

Don't get to worked bud, he's either trolling or been brainwashed by some one. Cripes, he even blames Europe for the destruction of the Native Americans...no one sane can actually think that. Either way, its not worth the time.

Take what I said out of context.. I was JOKING about Europe solely being responsible for Native Americans.. But, now that I think about it more, you cannot argue that they didn't START it.. The United States wasn't even a country when the abuse of Native American issues started.

Don't blame him, everything you type seems irrational, who can tell the differance between your jokes and what is serious? I doubt even you know.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson
Well, if you really want to get down to it, Europe destroyed the Native Americans because most of it was done before we became a country.. or at least it was set in motion. So I blame Europe for that too..

An attempt to blame a genocide on someone else and then a , how very nice.

Oh, i forgot, native americans were only savages, they deserved it.

I wonder if i did the same about the holocaust and a after it, would that be appreciated?

YOU are the one saying 60 years is too long to hold people responsible in Germany.. we should be fine here in America according to your logic.

And you are as far as i am concerned, just don't bring up the history with a .

There is a difference though, the US are proud of their history of genocide, Germany is not.

How is the US proud of 'genocide'?

I guess I could say the same of Europe...I mean they have a hell of a lot more practice in it.

Making movies with John Wayne as the great hero who killed some indians?

Can you imagine what a movie making a hero out of a german WWII officer killing some jews would get for reception, canoshit would have to fill his perscription of sedatives.

And sure, keep genocide in 'genocide' because it was you good fellows, americans, who did it. Not us lowly Germans, it proves ONE thing, do whatever you want in a war, if you win it, you will be heros, no matter what you have done.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson
Well, if you really want to get down to it, Europe destroyed the Native Americans because most of it was done before we became a country.. or at least it was set in motion. So I blame Europe for that too..

An attempt to blame a genocide on someone else and then a , how very nice.

Oh, i forgot, native americans were only savages, they deserved it.

I wonder if i did the same about the holocaust and a after it, would that be appreciated?

YOU are the one saying 60 years is too long to hold people responsible in Germany.. we should be fine here in America according to your logic.

And you are as far as i am concerned, just don't bring up the history with a .

There is a difference though, the US are proud of their history of genocide, Germany is not.

How is the US proud of 'genocide'?

I guess I could say the same of Europe...I mean they have a hell of a lot more practice in it.

Making movies with John Wayne as the great hero who killed some indians?

Can you imagine what a movie making a hero out of a german WWII officer killing some jews would get for reception, canoshit would have to fill his perscription of sedatives.

And sure, keep genocide in 'genocide' because it was you good fellows, americans, who did it. Not us lowly Germans, it proves ONE thing, do whatever you want in a war, if you win it, you will be heros, no matter what you have done.

Hilarious. You think making a movie is the same as being proud of genocide?

Some Europeans are so damn funny. They try to accuse America of everything to try to forget about how their countries raped and pillaged the world.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson
Well, if you really want to get down to it, Europe destroyed the Native Americans because most of it was done before we became a country.. or at least it was set in motion. So I blame Europe for that too..

An attempt to blame a genocide on someone else and then a , how very nice.

Oh, i forgot, native americans were only savages, they deserved it.

I wonder if i did the same about the holocaust and a after it, would that be appreciated?

YOU are the one saying 60 years is too long to hold people responsible in Germany.. we should be fine here in America according to your logic.

And you are as far as i am concerned, just don't bring up the history with a .

There is a difference though, the US are proud of their history of genocide, Germany is not.

How is the US proud of 'genocide'?

I guess I could say the same of Europe...I mean they have a hell of a lot more practice in it.

Making movies with John Wayne as the great hero who killed some indians?

Can you imagine what a movie making a hero out of a german WWII officer killing some jews would get for reception, canoshit would have to fill his perscription of sedatives.

And sure, keep genocide in 'genocide' because it was you good fellows, americans, who did it. Not us lowly Germans, it proves ONE thing, do whatever you want in a war, if you win it, you will be heros, no matter what you have done.

Hilarious. You think making a movie is the same as being proud of genocide?

Some Europeans are so damn funny. They try to accuse America of everything to try to forget about how their countries raped and pillaged the world.

Oh, i forgot, it's canoshits buttbuddy, the rabittmongoose.

ONE movie? How about hundreds?

Be proud, today i killed one of them redskins.

You want to discuss history, but we cannot go back further than the creation of the US, because there is nothing to compare to before that, ok?

Or do you want do discuss the history of my ancestors, semitic jews, and yours?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Crimson
Well, if you really want to get down to it, Europe destroyed the Native Americans because most of it was done before we became a country.. or at least it was set in motion. So I blame Europe for that too..

An attempt to blame a genocide on someone else and then a , how very nice.

Oh, i forgot, native americans were only savages, they deserved it.

I wonder if i did the same about the holocaust and a after it, would that be appreciated?

YOU are the one saying 60 years is too long to hold people responsible in Germany.. we should be fine here in America according to your logic.

And you are as far as i am concerned, just don't bring up the history with a .

There is a difference though, the US are proud of their history of genocide, Germany is not.

How is the US proud of 'genocide'?

I guess I could say the same of Europe...I mean they have a hell of a lot more practice in it.

Making movies with John Wayne as the great hero who killed some indians?

Can you imagine what a movie making a hero out of a german WWII officer killing some jews would get for reception, canoshit would have to fill his perscription of sedatives.

And sure, keep genocide in 'genocide' because it was you good fellows, americans, who did it. Not us lowly Germans, it proves ONE thing, do whatever you want in a war, if you win it, you will be heros, no matter what you have done.

Hilarious. You think making a movie is the same as being proud of genocide?

Some Europeans are so damn funny. They try to accuse America of everything to try to forget about how their countries raped and pillaged the world.

Oh, i forgot, it's canoshits buttbuddy, the rabittmongoose.

ONE movie? How about hundreds?

Be proud, today i killed one of them redskins.

You want to discuss history, but we cannot go back further than the creation of the US, because there is nothing to compare to before that, ok?

Or do you want do discuss the history of my ancestors, semitic jews, and yours?

I would LOVE to discuss history with a European who likes to forget about history. Where should we start? Slaughtering entire civlizations of Indians for hundreds of years, being responsible by bringing disease here that diminished the entire Indian population? Bringing slavery to the Americas? Colonialism and the subjugation of the entire world, from Africa to the Americas to Asia and India? The holocaust? Where should we start?

Since this is the Internet and I can say anything, I say that I'm a semitic Jew, too. I'm also black, native Indian, Indian from India, and some other Asian. Where should we start?

I absolutely love it when a European guy that wants to forget about European past atrocities wants to talk about history.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Making movies with John Wayne as the great hero who killed some indians?

Can you imagine what a movie making a hero out of a german WWII officer killing some jews would get for reception, canoshit would have to fill his perscription of sedatives.

And sure, keep genocide in 'genocide' because it was you good fellows, americans, who did it. Not us lowly Germans, it proves ONE thing, do whatever you want in a war, if you win it, you will be heros, no matter what you have done.

Considering that you have publicly stated your pro-apartheid and racist views, you're the one that probably celebrates genocide.

Let's not forget how many Europeans continue to celebrate genocide to this day by voting for racist & white supremacist parties to continue on this horrible legacy, along with the governments. Let's not forget that most of Europe is admittedly openly racist, too (probably over 66% now). So I wouldn't be surprised if they want to continue genocidal practices, which is why so many human rights organizations and world organizations are concerned. You would think that because of past history Europeans would be reformed, but no, they continue to make the same mistakes.

Anyways, movies are made by individuals, not governments. And you choose how to interpret it yourself. Obviously since you want to cause genocide, you view it as pro-genocide.

 

[Klixxer]

I am out of this thread, it bugs me too much that i am blamed for what my grandparents had to endure.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
I am out of this thread, it bugs me too much that i am blamed for what my grandparents had to endure.

You're not being blamed for anything except me accusing you of harboring racist views. When someone talks about the history of another country and criticizes it, they're not accusing you personally. Maybe you should leave if you really think that.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

This thread has turned into nothing more than a flamefest, so here's a link that is actually relevant to the discussion. One interesting quote:

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi called the images ?terrible? while reaffirming that his country?s 3,000 troops will stay in Iraq. But Cabinet minister Rocco Buttiglione hinted that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld should resign.

?The principal difference between democracies and dictatorships is that in the former, those who are politically responsible for disgraces should resign and those who fulfill them go to prison, while in dictatorships it?s permitted,? the ANSA news agency quoted Buttiglione as saying.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
This thread has turned into nothing more than a flamefest, so here's a link that is actually relevant to the discussion. One interesting quote:

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi called the images ?terrible? while reaffirming that his country?s 3,000 troops will stay in Iraq. But Cabinet minister Rocco Buttiglione hinted that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld should resign.

?The principal difference between democracies and dictatorships is that in the former, those who are politically responsible for disgraces should resign and those who fulfill them go to prison, while in dictatorships it?s permitted,? the ANSA news agency quoted Buttiglione as saying.

Berlusconi will soon be gone and behind bars, as soon as he loses power, he loses his power to control his own destiny. He is nothing but a crook, most sensible people know this.

I am sorry for making this thread into a flamefest though, i think i started it and i apologize to everyone except the two stooges.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
I am sorry for making this thread into a flamefest though, i think i started it and i apologize to everyone except the two stooges.

The troll admits to being a troll.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Ozoned


Why post a topic to discuss how Europeans feel about Bush?

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

This thread has turned into nothing more than a flamefest

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer
I am sorry for making this thread into a flamefest though, i think i started it and i apologize to everyone except the two stooges.

The troll admits to being a troll.

/ignore

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer
I am sorry for making this thread into a flamefest though, i think i started it and i apologize to everyone except the two stooges.

The troll admits to being a troll.

/ignore

:brokenheart:

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I love the people of every country on this planet :heart: I would however give many of their leaders the choice of head or gut! :evil: If we Americans have become so arrogant that we no longer value the input of our peers then we have lost our way I fear. It is impossible to be objective about a system you are a part of, so I find the observations of outsiders are often a perspective to be valued when weighing matters of consequence. and that's all I have to say about that.

 

[Format C:]

Typical Eurocentric stupidity. What we SHOULD do is a complete pullout worldwide and let all the limp wristed tit suckers fend for themselves.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Format C:
Typical Eurocentric stupidity. What we SHOULD do is a complete pullout worldwide and let all the limp wristed tit suckers fend for themselves.

As we all know US doesn't have any interests in the rest of the world........

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Format C:
Typical Eurocentric stupidity. What we SHOULD do is a complete pullout worldwide and let all the limp wristed tit suckers fend for themselves.

I think there is a growing sense of that. I don't know what would be worse - the current shrill whining or the shreaking that would take place if we did bring ALL of our troops home from across the globe.

CkG

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Format C:
Typical Eurocentric stupidity. What we SHOULD do is a complete pullout worldwide and let all the limp wristed tit suckers fend for themselves.

I think there is a growing sense of that. I don't know what would be worse - the current shrill whining or the shreaking that would take place if we did bring ALL of our troops home from across the globe.

CkG

And put an end to

Operation
Iraqi
Liberation

???

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Format C:
Typical Eurocentric stupidity. What we SHOULD do is a complete pullout worldwide and let all the limp wristed tit suckers fend for themselves.

I think there is a growing sense of that. I don't know what would be worse - the current shrill whining or the shreaking that would take place if we did bring ALL of our troops home from across the globe.

CkG

And put an end to

Operation
Iraqi
Liberation

???

Aren't you one of the bleaters who say we shouldn't be over there?

CkG

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

And put an end to

Operation
Iraqi
Liberation

???

Aren't you one of the bleaters who say we shouldn't be over there?

CkG

No bleating here.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

How could anyone ever perceive Americans as arrogant?