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JEDIYoda

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They are making an announcement later today on charges for the other 3 individuals complicit in this murder......just announced!
 

allisolm

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They are making an announcement later today on charges for the other 3 individuals complicit in this murder......just announced!
"The Minnesota Attorney General's office has finished its initial review of evidence in the investigation of four former police officers involved in the death of George Floyd and has rendered a decision regarding additional charges, two law enforcement officials briefed on the state's investigation tell CNN.

One of the officials said the state's Attorney General will be making a significant announcement in the case early this afternoon. The officials would not reveal what the decision was."

It doesn't say if any charges will be brought. Let's hope so, but we'll have to wait and see.

 
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JEDIYoda

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"The Minnesota Attorney General's office has finished its initial review of evidence in the investigation of four former police officers involved in the death of George Floyd and has rendered a decision regarding additional charges, two law enforcement officials briefed on the state's investigation tell CNN.

One of the officials said the state's Attorney General will be making a significant announcement in the case early this afternoon. The officials would not reveal what the decision was."

It doesn't say if any charges will be brought. Let's hope so, but we'll have to wait and see.

Thank You for the link! I did not find it before I posted! Thanks!
 
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woolfe9998

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In a poll that ran thru 6/1 things...aren't looking great for Trump's race (and racial) strategy.

Yeah, even more directly:


If you look at the graph which shows the head to head polling over time, Biden was 4-6 points ahead of Trump in January through the third week of May. Oddly enough, it didn't seem to change that much in relation to Trump's handling of COVID-19. But just this past 10 days Biden's lead has widened to +8.

What I think this means is that voters are disapproving of Trump's handling of the Floyd situation and the protests.

This is good news.
 

JEDIYoda

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Yeah, even more directly:


If you look at the graph which shows the head to head polling over time, Biden was 4-6 points ahead of Trump in January through the third week of May. Oddly enough, it didn't seem to change that much in relation to Trump's handling of COVID-19. But just this past 10 days Biden's lead has widened to +8.

What I think this means is that voters are disapproving of Trump's handling of the Floyd situation and the protests.

This is good news.
It might not even be that voters are disappointed! People do not like being taken for fools and I feel that people are waking up to Trumps bungling and insincerity!
 

brycejones

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Yeah, even more directly:


If you look at the graph which shows the head to head polling over time, Biden was 4-6 points ahead of Trump in January through the third week of May. Oddly enough, it didn't seem to change that much in relation to Trump's handling of COVID-19. But just this past 10 days Biden's lead has widened to +8.

What I think this means is that voters are disapproving of Trump's handling of the Floyd situation and the protests.

This is good news.
Holy shit even Rasmussen has Biden up by 5. That has to be frightening to the Trump campaign.
 

woolfe9998

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Holy shit even Rasmussen has Biden up by 5. That has to be frightening to the Trump campaign.
Yep, and about that, 538 has usually done a more accurate job than RCP because they adjust pollsters for historical bias by comparing the pollster's polls with actual election results. 538, which isn't doing a polling average at the moment for some reason, adjusts Rasmussen +5 blueward to compensate for its historic +5 redward lean. Other pollsters typically get adjusted +1/-1 redward or blueward. RCP doesn't make those adjustments. In other words, a 538 average would likely show an even wider Biden lead by adjusting the Rasmussen poll to +10 instead of +5.

So yeah, Rasmussen showing +5 Biden is very, very bad for Trump.
 
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K1052

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Yeah, even more directly:


If you look at the graph which shows the head to head polling over time, Biden was 4-6 points ahead of Trump in January through the third week of May. Oddly enough, it didn't seem to change that much in relation to Trump's handling of COVID-19. But just this past 10 days Biden's lead has widened to +8.

What I think this means is that voters are disapproving of Trump's handling of the Floyd situation and the protests.

This is good news.
His COVID specific approval was deteriorating and continues to although it didn't seem to impact the horse race too much.

Not that it really needs to be said however as an incumbent his poll performance is piss poor and getting worse. Key demos are slipping away (seniors, men) as other gaps continue to widen (women). Not being able to climb out of a low 40s approval, a 9-10 point congressional ballot gap, and a challenger that is climbing above 50% all paint the same picture.
 

Atreus21

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I bet they'll be investigated by the Internal Affairs division of the MPD. That wouldn't be a conflict of interest right?


Statistics for 2019:
Police killed 265 African Americans
Police killed 350 Caucasians
Right. Do you know many unarmed blacks were killed in 2019? 10. And of those, how many weren't fleeing? 4.

Those are absolutely tragic. But to spin this into a general narrative of police deliberately hunting down and killing blacks is simply ridiculous.

Black people make up 12% of the population.
white people make up 60% of the population.
Yes. And despite being 12% of the population, they accounted for half of all total murders, half of all robberies, a third of all aggravated assaults, and 25% of criminal offenses overall in 2018.

You don't think these numbers might portend a slightly increased likelihood of police encounters by blacks?
 

hal2kilo

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Right. Do you know many unarmed blacks were killed in 2019? 10. And of those, how many weren't fleeing? 4.

Those are absolutely tragic. But to spin this into a general narrative of police deliberately hunting down and killing blacks is simply ridiculous.



Yes. And despite being 12% of the population, they accounted for half of all total murders, half of all robberies, a third of all aggravated assaults, and 25% of criminal offenses overall in 2018.

You don't think these numbers might portend a slightly increased likelihood of police encounters by blacks?
Why do you think this situation exists.
 

JEDIYoda

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Right. Do you know many unarmed blacks were killed in 2019? 10. And of those, how many weren't fleeing? 4.

Those are absolutely tragic. But to spin this into a general narrative of police deliberately hunting down and killing blacks is simply ridiculous.



Yes. And despite being 12% of the population, they accounted for half of all total murders, half of all robberies, a third of all aggravated assaults, and 25% of criminal offenses overall in 2018.

You don't think these numbers might portend a slightly increased likelihood of police encounters by blacks?
It is very obvious that you are an enabler of bad policing! I will say this again - your KKK brethren are very proud of you!!
 

ivwshane

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Look at the idiot who can only see one conclusion: blacks get arrested more therefore they must commit more crimes.

He’s completely unaware of the possibility that blacks get arrested more because they are targeted or assumed to be committing a crime.



As an example:


The guy is totally clueless.
 
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Atreus21

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That race relations are no better now than they were 50 years ago
Cite that.

...and the vast majority of black people live in poverty.
All sorts of reasons, probably the least of which is white racism. They marry at half the rate others do. Three-quarters of black infants are born to unmarried mothers. More than half the murders in America are committed by blacks, mostly of other blacks. More than a third of all persons arrested for violent crime are black. Black women abort their unborn children at three to four times the rate white women do. 40% of young black men drop out of high school. Black unemployment rates are typically twice the white rate. These are facts, almost all clearly based in personal choices or conduct. The problem is black conduct, not white racism. As known since Booker T. Washington, the remedy is also black conduct, conduct that finishes school, obeys the law, keeps a job, and raises children in marriage.
 

hal2kilo

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Cite that.



All sorts of reasons, probably the least of which is white racism. They marry at half the rate others do. Three-quarters of black infants are born to unmarried mothers. More than half the murders in America are committed by blacks, mostly of other blacks. More than a third of all persons arrested for violent crime are black. Black women abort their unborn children at three to four times the rate white women do. 40% of young black men drop out of high school. Black unemployment rates are typically twice the white rate. These are facts, almost all clearly based in personal choices or conduct. The problem is black conduct, not white racism. As known since Booker T. Washington, the remedy is also black conduct, conduct that finishes school, obeys the law, keeps a job, and raises children in marriage.
Just sad.
 
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zinfamous

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You ever notice how many people who claim to be libertarian really aren't because they're always ready to use their 'libertarianism' to violate the non-aggression principle?
Kinda reminds me of people who claim to be Star Trek fans but then complain that what sucks about new Star Trek is that it's too woke.
They also don't seem to recognize that the Utopian world of Star Trek, from Gene Rodenberry's own mind, involved a one-people planet earth, with universal "sochullism," no money, no real "jobs," access for all to all the advanced healthcare available, etc etc etc.

lol, back then the most shocking thing was that he allowed a black woman to kiss a white man on TV...oh, and there was an Asian and a Russian. So wrong!
 

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