Entrapment or stupid choice?

[waggy]

i don't see how this could not be entrapment. she asked him to take it out.

seems that the police are doing more shit like this (the bag one pissed me off). they should be stoping crime not setting up people.

 

[Wreckem]

Asking him to expose himself isnt inducing or persuading him to do it, atleast not as defined by law.

If it was, every sting operation would be entrapment.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Asking him to expose himself isnt inducing or persuading him to do it, atleast not as defined by law.

If it was, every sting operation would be entrapment.

If it planted the idea in his head when it wasn't there previously, it is. The government can provide the means to commit the crime, but they cannot implant the idea of the crime into the persons head. It would be like me telling some random guy driving his car to race me in my squad car, when he really had no inclination or thought to do so previously, then pulling him over and giving him a ticket for speeding/drag racing. It doesn't work like that.

 

[Dessert Tears]

Originally posted by: ghostman, emphasis added
This subway operation is mentioned on the second page of the article (I had never heard of it before). The subway "sting" is completely retarded. My cell phone was stolen earlier this year. A few days after, I found a smartphone in a movie theater. I did not turn it in to the movie staff, since I'm very certain one of those kids would have taken it. Instead, after dropping my gf off, I went through the phone's address book and found someone with a local number. I then dropped a quarter in a pay phone and called this person, which so happened to be with the individual who lost his phone. He had no clue where he lost it and was telling me he'd give me a reward if I return it. I told him it wasn't necessary, traveled back and returned the phone. If this was a sting, I would have been arrested the moment I stepped out of the theater.

Not quite. In Operation Lucky Bag, the subject had to pass a uniformed police officer without attempting to turn in the item.

Previous thread re: Operation Lucky Bag: Entrapment or Justice?

 

[Nitemare]

Guess it is better to entrap people into making poor decisions that they would have never made anyways than to do their fucking jobs and arrest actual criminals...

Guess they took a day off from writing speeding tickets and generating 120 dollars every 2 minutes in court costs though...so it wasn't a total loss for all those horrible people that get caught in their speed traps...

 

[zanejohnson]

ridiculous... but it really doesnt surprise me, cops are crooked, and you can add them to your list of people are out to harm you.

 

[jagec]

They were targeting men who were having sex or masturbating in the park (So I guess that means they were only arresting gay men, since by inference they didn't mind women having sex in the park). In other words, men who would deliberately get up in the morning, walk to the park with the intention of having sex/jerking off, and then do it.

Instead, they got someone who was persuaded to expose his penis, to one person, who had flirted with him for several minutes, touched him, and then directly asked him to see it.

WTF? While I tend to find fallacious the argument that cops shouldn't deal with issues such as traffic enforcement because they need to be arresting "real criminals", in this case it seems to me that they should have better judgement about who actually constitutes a threat to society. Or maybe we should just issue a test to every citizen when they turn 18, and jail the 85% who aren't able to provide an "100% socially acceptable" response to every single question.