Entrapment or stupid choice?

[Wheezer]

Story

personally I don't feel sorry for the guy.

He had a choice and chose poorly and now he is crying "entrapment" so he can keep his job, benefits and probably his marriage.

If you were in the situation would you have done the same?

ENTRAPMENT - A person is 'entrapped' when he is induced or persuaded by law enforcement officers or their agents to commit a crime that he had no previous intent to commit; and the law as a matter of policy forbids conviction in such a case.

However, there is no entrapment where a person is ready and willing to break the law and the Government agents merely provide what appears to be a favorable opportunity for the person to commit the crime. For example, it is not entrapment for a Government agent to pretend to be someone else and to offer, either directly or through an informer or other decoy, to engage in an unlawful transaction with the person. So, a person would not be a victim of entrapment if the person was ready, willing and able to commit the crime charged in the indictment whenever opportunity was afforded, and that Government officers or their agents did no more than offer an opportunity.

 

[FoBoT]

entrapment is very very rare, it isn't like the govt. doesn't already know what constitutes entrapment
they don't run ops that qualify as entrapment, that would be a waste of time

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Definitely entrapment. She asked him to do it, that's the very definition of entrapment.

 

[FallenHero]

jesus...keep it in P&N or off topic...not both!

 

[Linflas]

So if I understand the story the police have a woman breaking the law by sunbathing topless in order to lure citizens to her and getting them to join her in breaking the law? And the police wonder why people sometimes don't trust them?

 

[mugs]

I'm the last person to call something entrapment, but that doesn't really sit right with me.

Edit: Scratch that, I'm adamantly opposed to what the police are doing here. There's no reason to believe that the guys they catch in this sting have ever exposed themselves in public or would ever expose themselves in public if they hadn't been put in that situation by the police. They are not fighting crime, they are creating crime.

With a prostitution or drug sting, the perpetrator goes to the sting with the intention of committing a crime. With this sting, the guy goes up to the woman to talk to her and is encouraged to commit a crime by an attractive, topless woman. Come on. :roll:

 

[rgwalt]

Originally posted by: Linflas
So if I understand the story the police have a woman breaking the law by sunbathing topless in order to lure citizens to her and getting them to join her in breaking the law? And the police wonder why people sometimes don't trust them?

Sunbathing topless is evidently legal in public parks in Columbus, Ohio.

In other news, I will be moving to Columbus, Ohio.

R

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Linflas
So if I understand the story the police have a woman breaking the law by sunbathing topless in order to lure citizens to her and getting them to join her in breaking the law?

the sunbathing is legal
the exposing the penis/sex in public is illegal

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Definitely entrapment. She asked him to do it, that's the very definition of entrapment.

QFT

Edit: And she was very flirty with the guy. Married, he should have "restrained" but the thrill is there when it comes to "strange."

 

[rbV5]

This story certainly backs up my theory that it takes very little to get a fireman to show you his penis.

Book him Dano :laugh:

 

[Throckmorton]

The woman not being arrested makes this not only a case of entrapment, but also the cops being above the law.

 

[BoomerD]

This story has been beat to death in P&N...
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2135962&enterthread=y

 

[AndrewR]

In the article, it says that topless sunbathing is legal there.

That being said, it's clearly a case of entrapment. But for the artificial setup created by the police, this guy would have likely never committed this "offense" (in quotations because the woman asked him to do it so it wasn't like he was flashing anyone). I wonder how many assaults, burglaries, rapes, or other actual crimes were taking place in the city while the police were busy occupying limited law enforcement resources catching this horrific offender?

Generally, I am very pro-law enforcement (contemplating the FBI actually), but this is just stupid.

 

[MustISO]

Note to self: Always get the topless girl inside before whipping it out.

 

[TuxDave]

Law enforcement officials say that such sting operations are an extremely effective means of lowering crime rates and stopping the criminally minded before they commit worse offenses.

Oh noes... it's getting closer to Minority Report.

 

[Alistar7]

When in doubt, whip it out.....

 

[imported_Baloo]

Yep, that would qualify as entrapment. All he's got to do is fight it, then sue. He will win, but damage has already been done.

 

[IronWing]

Two consenting adults, out of general view. Where is the crime?

 

[I Saw OJ]

That seems really fishy. TOPLESS woman in the park flirting with you, asks you to whip it out...whats a guy to do.

EDIT: Voted no, ment to vote yes.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Baloo
Yep, that would qualify as entrapment. All he's got to do is fight it, then sue. He will win, but damage has already been done.

He was convicted

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
The woman not being arrested makes this not only a case of entrapment, but also the cops being above the law.

She didn't do anything illegal

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Total Bullshit. Any guy that sees a half naked chick that asks to see it is going to show it to her.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: AndrewR
In the article, it says that topless sunbathing is legal there.

That being said, it's clearly a case of entrapment. But for the artificial setup created by the police, this guy would have likely never committed this "offense" (in quotations because the woman asked him to do it so it wasn't like he was flashing anyone). I wonder how many assaults, burglaries, rapes, or other actual crimes were taking place in the city while the police were busy occupying limited law enforcement resources catching this horrific offender?

Generally, I am very pro-law enforcement (contemplating the FBI actually), but this is just stupid.

FBI is very different, in function and ethos. I'd love to work for the FBI or any other federal body but I have a very dim view of local law enforcement

 

[hiromizu]

That is ridiculous.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Definitely entrapment. She asked him to do it, that's the very definition of entrapment.

I agree

 

[Kadarin]

This is a victimless crime. She asked to see his penis and he showed it, so who was harmed by this action?