Enough is enough. (VW bashers in here please.)

[0roo0roo]

whenever i see the beetle i see hitler <-- Yes

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
whenever i see the beetle i see hitler <-- Yes

LOL.

Why did nobody else mention that yet?

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: N8Magic

This is not as simple as a piece of poop in the toilet though.

My point is, most people here jump on the hatewagon and talk out their ass.

So. . . where are you when ATers come out in hordes and talk out of their asses about ricers and the import car scene?

 

[SOSTrooper]

Hey my Passat is pretty good, no problem so far. My friend's 2002 Accord had already been to the shop like 3 times for defects. I guess Honda = teh suckage







Thank god it doesnt work that way.

 

[AnyMal]

Here it is, just as you asked. First hand, actual owner experience. VW is the biggest POS I've ever owned, and I owned me some POS's in the past. 85 Omni and 96 Accent come to mind, but 2000 VW Golf I had takes the cake.

 

[NorthRiver]

I have owned many pre 1970 VW's. They have their problems, but if you have a little mechanical knowledge, they are easy to take care of. I miss them so much, I am gonna buy a 63 bug in a few weeks. It's a love, hate relationship!!

 

[Doggiedog]

Do the opinions of siblings count?

My sister's 93 Jetta had nothing but problems. They must have replaced everything at least once in that engine. The funniest thing to fall apart on it was the door lock. The driver's side door stopped working and she would have to get in through the passenger side. The best thing to fall apart was the speed/odo meter. She must have driven 50K miles on it with it broken. Nothing on that car worked. It was a disaster from the start. Eventually it committed suicide by catching fire one day and self-immolating itself. I never saw this happen but that is what she told me.

I think VWs are great fun to drive but they are unreliable. I had an 86 GTi (in 88) and it was nothing but problems. When it ran, it was a blast but you couldn't count on getting it started in the winter.

 

[Amused]

My 1999 Passat GLX has been flawless.

 

VW's SUCK

See sig

 

[B00ne]

Hmmm VWs are pretty good here in Europe, mybe u get all the junk, after all there must be a reason why they are so cheap in the US

 

[chin311]

i had an 89' jetta.

'nuff said. :evil:

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: B00ne
Hmmm VWs are pretty good here in Europe, mybe u get all the junk, after all there must be a reason why they are so cheap in the US

are your VW's made in Mexico like ours ?

 

[MangoTBG]

VWs and their cracker drivers are POSs! Sorry! You lose!

 

[TheCorm]

I hardly know anything about VW's......but....they suck.

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: MangoTBG
VWs and their cracker drivers are POSs! Sorry! You lose!

 

[DurocShark]

I've had 2 84 GTI's. A blast to drive!

First one had all the suspension rubber deteriorate to the point where I'd have to replace all the CV joints, tie rods, etc, because they were fracturing!!! Sold it to a guy who swore he'd have no prob fixing.

The second one had been converted to an auto at some point in the past. Talk about a power drop..heh But 3 different shops (one of them the dealer) couldn't find the problem with the electrical that the alt couldn't keep the battery up if everything was running (driving in the rain at night when it's cold, for example). Higher and higher amp alts didn't fix. Obviously a short somewhere, but NOBODY could find it! Finally gave up and got my Volvo that I love...

A coworker here has a 2000 Golf that literally breaks down once every 2 weeks. Don't remember all the issues, but last week the tranny sprung a leak and smoked itself on the freeway. Time before the oxygen sensor died. Time before that some other sensors (that were apparently recalled) died, forcing the car into "limp home" mode.

No, VW/Audi is nowhere on my list of cars to get in the future. Pre-GM Saabs and Pre-Ford Volvos are pretty much it for me for now.

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: N8Magic
If you are going to rip on a company because of past quality control issues, you best be speaking from the first-person point of view or your opinion means very little.

"My friends VW is a POS, you should have seen it!" <----- NO.
"I saw a VW pulled over at the side of the freeway. Must be those electrical problems." <----- NO.
"I know a mechanic that works on nothing but domestics who says..." <----- NO.
"My neighbour has a VW and it's in the shop..." <-----NO.
"I read in Stuff magazine that the editors ashtray cover broke." <----- NO.

"One of my past VW's gave me trouble with..." <----- YES!

If you are going to run your mouth about how bad a car company is, please PLEASE have firsthand experience. Otherwise, kindly STFU and move along.

i guess we should say the same thing about KIA & HYUNDIA ?

 

[CraigRT]

hahah...

VW hater here... won't say anything though.

 

[Saltin]

99 Passat GLX.

80,000 KM

Sunroof motor replace,
New Brakes and rotors (my choice to do so)
Driver's side half shaft replaced
1 Annoying rattle I am sure is a result of the brake job not being installed properly.

Other than that, it's alot of fun to drive.

I should say though, that when it was new, it was purchased for 45k CAN. It's a beautful car to drive and sit in, but for 45k, I can think of alot of other cars I would go for first.

So I guess, I'm on the fence when it comes to VW. Time will tell.

 

[CraigRT]

45K for a Passat!! oh my lord!!

yeah there's one of the largest problems.... HELLA EXPENSIVE!!!!!

 

[Lifer]

agreed, VW sucks.

secondhand experience, and actually firsthand because I witnessed it and became part of it.
cousin constantly called me to charge her battery cuz her batter kept dying because her alternator died... at 20k miles!!!

not to mention constant power window problems, cluster replacement at 25k miles, and numerous electrical problems. so yeah, VW sucks.

 

[DrPizza]

I had no opinion of VW either way, except that VW, Mazda, and Subaru parts are hella-expensive if something does break... Fortunately, I've been lucky and have had to replace very few parts on my Mazda. But, rather than form an opinion based on anectdotal evidence, I decided to consult the wise web pages of J.D. Power and Associates...

Basically, Volkswagon sucks as far as dependability.
(The only cars worse are: Kia, Daewoo, Land Rover, and Suzuki)

From the J.D. Power and Associates 2003 Vehicle Dependability Study
2003 Nameplate VDS Ranking
Problems Per 100 Vehicles

Lexus 163
Infiniti 174
Buick 179
Porsche 193
Acura 196
Toyota 201
Cadillac 209
Lincoln 212
Honda 218
Mercury 240
Jaguar 247
Saab 255
BMW 262
Subaru 266
Nissan 267
GMC 269
Chevrolet 272
Saturn 273
Industry Average 273
Oldsmobie 283
Mazda 288
Pontiac 293
Chrysler 295
Ford 295
Plymouth 302
Dodge 312
Audi 318
Mercedes-Benz 318
Jeep 321
Volvo 330
Mitsubishi 339
Hyundai 342
Isuzu 368
***Volkswagon 391
Suzuki 403
Daewoo 421
Land Rover 441
Kia 509

There you have it... Confirmed evidence that Volkswagon's suck. Not just an opinion.
Source

 

[bernse]

Originally posted by: N8Magic
If you are going to run your mouth about how bad a car company is, please PLEASE have firsthand experience. Otherwise, kindly STFU and move along.

Your reasoning is fundamentally flawed. The great thing about humanity is that we can communicate. People let others know about their bad experiences. Otherwise, we would probably be extinct by now because we'd all have to learn the same hard lessons.

Or, are you saying major purchasing decisions are exempt from this?

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Uh, a VW mechanic would be a far better authority than an individual owner since a mechanic would be able to see trends in many cars instead of just one example which is statistically invalid.

ZV

Actually, no. A mechanic ONLY sees the broken cars. He has no idea how many cars are out there that work just fine, because he ONLY sees the broken ones.

 

[Vic]

The only VW's I've ever owned were aircooled flat-4's.

And how could anyone see Hitler in the genius of Dr. Porsche? Do you see Hitler everytime you take a Bayer aspirin?