Havent been able to find any specs, regarding the number of 4 pin connectors, on the an Enermax 450 w power supply [AC--EG451PVE]. Saw it at computer 123.com. Does any one own one of these, and would you recommend it?
Enermax 450 PS-How many connectors ?
- Thread starter Steven the Leech
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Well, i would guess that it would have at least 8(that's what the Enermax 350's have)... They are awesome power supplies... Many people will attest to this. Because of the dual fan configuration, they are not only extremely quiet, but they push a good deal of air.
Mike
Mike
I have one right here that I have not yet installed. It has the following:
8 large 4 pin Peripheral Connectors
1 small 4 pin Floppy Connector
1 3 pin Fan Monitor Connector
1 4 pin square +12 volt Connector
1 6 pin Aux Power Connector
1 20 pin ATX Main Power Connector
8 large 4 pin Peripheral Connectors
1 small 4 pin Floppy Connector
1 3 pin Fan Monitor Connector
1 4 pin square +12 volt Connector
1 6 pin Aux Power Connector
1 20 pin ATX Main Power Connector
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Stupid, stupid design.
I've got one.
What's with the >> 8 << 5.25 wires and only >> 1 << 3.5????
I've got a PC power adapter that powers my camera and it uses the 3.5 type connector. I had to use an adapter to convert one of the 5.25 plugs to a 3.5 type.
Also, what's with the two auxilleries? Grr... That and the fact that all of the wires are 3' long wake for a big nest of wires tied up on top of my case.
I've got one.
What's with the >> 8 << 5.25 wires and only >> 1 << 3.5????
I've got a PC power adapter that powers my camera and it uses the 3.5 type connector. I had to use an adapter to convert one of the 5.25 plugs to a 3.5 type.
Also, what's with the two auxilleries? Grr... That and the fact that all of the wires are 3' long wake for a big nest of wires tied up on top of my case.
That is why I am getting it, for a 72 watt peltier-3 120mm fans/5 hardrives/3-cdroms and a power hungry geforce. Current PS-300w
Hmm, my question is how do these PSes compare to PC Power & Cooling's Turbo ATX line? I have the Turbo ATX 400 that I got back in 1998 and it's not ATX 2.xx compliant. Is ATX 2.xx only a issue with AMD setups or is it a concern with Intel Celeron/PIII as well? PC Power & Cooling told me that I need to check to see how much current the +5VDC requires but I don't see that mentioned anywhere in the ABIT Motherboard manuals.
Enermax 450 is better than a PcPowerCooling 400(also known as Fortron-Source/Sparkle, As PcPowerCooling rebadges these power supplies as their own).
The enermax 350 won't give you quite as high power output as a 400 Sparkle/fortron-Source, but they're higher quality and quieter.
Either way, an Enermax 450 is atx 2.03, and can be had for cheaper than a 400W Turbo-Cool. Given a choice, the Enermax is the hands down winner.
Mike
The enermax 350 won't give you quite as high power output as a 400 Sparkle/fortron-Source, but they're higher quality and quieter.
Either way, an Enermax 450 is atx 2.03, and can be had for cheaper than a 400W Turbo-Cool. Given a choice, the Enermax is the hands down winner.
Mike
Sorry for the false alarm, it appears that the power supply is genuine for handling everything!
Tony
Tony
Interesting. Where did you actually find the info of who made the power supplies for PC Power and Cooling? Is the Turbo 425 ATX actually from the same company as well? I was wondering about the ATX 2.xx issue, would the PC Power and Cooling Turbo 400 ATX only not work with AMD setups since the PS isn't compliant with ATX 2.xx at all and they said that certain motherboards will kill it. Isn't Sparkle the same company that the SuperMicro SC750A original PS is made by?
I'm still trying to figure out, why would a PC Power & Cooling 400W still be more powerful than someone else's 450W?
I'm still trying to figure out, why would a PC Power & Cooling 400W still be more powerful than someone else's 450W?
Err... the TurboCool 300W was a Sparkle/Forton Source, the 400W TurboCool is a Zippy/Emac's POwerSupply(also an excellent one). Again, there is ntohing wrong with PCPOwerCooling other than their near doubling the price of a generic ZippyEmacs or Sparkle unit.
Mike
Mike
Scaramouche,
Thanks. It seems the PC Power & Cooling Turbo ATX 400 I have is not the same one listed since mines is not even anywhere near ATX 2.0 and it's already a non-current model. I got it in mid 1998. The current Turbo 400 ATX is a slim model which is probably different.
Thanks. It seems the PC Power & Cooling Turbo ATX 400 I have is not the same one listed since mines is not even anywhere near ATX 2.0 and it's already a non-current model. I got it in mid 1998. The current Turbo 400 ATX is a slim model which is probably different.
I don't think my PC Power and Cooling is the Zippy one mentioned on the site since mines is not compliant with ATX 2.0 or above for one thing. It's a discontinued model I don't know for how long. Since I have the power supply already, are there really any motherboards out there that need ATX 2.0x or higher? Since that Enermax unit really looks cool with 2 fans and that's probably the next item I'm getting from Tony
well, if your power supply is atx 2.0, then the power supply fan blows air in(baaad... cause hot air from the power supply is pushed into the case).
If it is atx 2.01, then it pulls air out of the case, in which case you're pretty much free to use any motherboard save the server mb's that have the auxiliary power connector(note, Enermax's do have this auxiliary connector).
What mb do you have now? I'm guessing your power supply works fine with it? If you do decide to upgrade, Enermax's are awesome units.
Mike
If it is atx 2.01, then it pulls air out of the case, in which case you're pretty much free to use any motherboard save the server mb's that have the auxiliary power connector(note, Enermax's do have this auxiliary connector).
What mb do you have now? I'm guessing your power supply works fine with it? If you do decide to upgrade, Enermax's are awesome units.
Mike
Mike,
From what PC Power & Cooling told me about my PS when I asked about it, this is what they told me:
The TC400ATX should be fine for any motherboard
that does not require the 720ma standard for ATX 2.xx. This standards
revision was published after the manufacture of this series. The TC400ATX
meets ATX standards prior to ATX 2.xx. To meet 2.xx or the pending 3.xx
standard a newer supply would have to be purchased. Even today this
standard continues to change and previous models, in general, can not be
upgraded..If the motherboard demands no more than 150ma on the +5VSB
then the TC400ATX will work fine. If the +5VSB is above this then it
will cause premature power supply failure...
So I have no idea which motherboards actually will not work since from what I see, the only systems that need specific approved power supplies are AMD Athlon/Duron/TBird systems and not Intel systems. The power supply blows air out on mines and there is only one NMB 39cfm 80mm fan. I thought the Enermax was a ATX 2.03 compliant PS, so does this mean it blows air in as well? I was under the impression it blows air out with the 2 fans. Oops, I didn't know there was a big difference between 2.0 and 2.01. What is the auxiliary power connector for? I noticed the SuperMicro SC760A came with a Redundant Cooling system PS that was ATX 2.03 but I swapped it with my old case and kept the PC Power & Cooling PS.
I actually have the ABIT BE6II v2.0 motherboard. It seems like the motherboard works fine except the power switch does not work in Windows. When I press it, all it does is flash the Caps lock, Num Lock and Scroll lock key once and doesn't turn off the system or anything. Only the Reset button works. I can use the power button in the bios and before the WinME screen shows up. So I wonder is this a Power Supply problem or not.
From what PC Power & Cooling told me about my PS when I asked about it, this is what they told me:
The TC400ATX should be fine for any motherboard
that does not require the 720ma standard for ATX 2.xx. This standards
revision was published after the manufacture of this series. The TC400ATX
meets ATX standards prior to ATX 2.xx. To meet 2.xx or the pending 3.xx
standard a newer supply would have to be purchased. Even today this
standard continues to change and previous models, in general, can not be
upgraded..If the motherboard demands no more than 150ma on the +5VSB
then the TC400ATX will work fine. If the +5VSB is above this then it
will cause premature power supply failure...
So I have no idea which motherboards actually will not work since from what I see, the only systems that need specific approved power supplies are AMD Athlon/Duron/TBird systems and not Intel systems. The power supply blows air out on mines and there is only one NMB 39cfm 80mm fan. I thought the Enermax was a ATX 2.03 compliant PS, so does this mean it blows air in as well? I was under the impression it blows air out with the 2 fans. Oops, I didn't know there was a big difference between 2.0 and 2.01. What is the auxiliary power connector for? I noticed the SuperMicro SC760A came with a Redundant Cooling system PS that was ATX 2.03 but I swapped it with my old case and kept the PC Power & Cooling PS.
I actually have the ABIT BE6II v2.0 motherboard. It seems like the motherboard works fine except the power switch does not work in Windows. When I press it, all it does is flash the Caps lock, Num Lock and Scroll lock key once and doesn't turn off the system or anything. Only the Reset button works. I can use the power button in the bios and before the WinME screen shows up. So I wonder is this a Power Supply problem or not.
No, the enermax's are atx 2.03.
It looks like your power supply should be fine, but it may cause you problems later on. I'm guessing it was pretty expensive, so I personally wouldnt' be looking to swap it out unless you can use the pcpowercooling one in another computer at home or something. But I would check for compatibility before installing any new mb.
Mike
It looks like your power supply should be fine, but it may cause you problems later on. I'm guessing it was pretty expensive, so I personally wouldnt' be looking to swap it out unless you can use the pcpowercooling one in another computer at home or something. But I would check for compatibility before installing any new mb.
Mike
Mike,
I know the Enermax's are ATX 2.03. So I gather the one I have is probably the original ATX 1.0 spec. The PC Power & Cooling I think was $200 and it was better than the 230Watt Sparkle I replaced in power flow and the video. I'm just wondering how I would figure out if a motherboard isn't compatible since it seems like ABIT and ASUS both only say ATX Power Supply but they don't say which version is required or the currrent on the pins since their FAQ's only list the voltage. The only time I heard that PowerSupplies, RAM and Motherboards had to meet a certain spec was with AMD's Athalon/Duron/TBird.
What is the auxillary connector for on the ATX 2.03 power supplies actually used for?
Thanks.
I know the Enermax's are ATX 2.03. So I gather the one I have is probably the original ATX 1.0 spec. The PC Power & Cooling I think was $200 and it was better than the 230Watt Sparkle I replaced in power flow and the video. I'm just wondering how I would figure out if a motherboard isn't compatible since it seems like ABIT and ASUS both only say ATX Power Supply but they don't say which version is required or the currrent on the pins since their FAQ's only list the voltage. The only time I heard that PowerSupplies, RAM and Motherboards had to meet a certain spec was with AMD's Athalon/Duron/TBird.
What is the auxillary connector for on the ATX 2.03 power supplies actually used for?
Thanks.
I woudl try contacting whoever originally made your power supply and see if they have a compatability list going. I don't know if PcPowerCooling will tell you who originally made it, though.
The auxiliary connector is for certain server mb's.
Mike
The auxiliary connector is for certain server mb's.
Mike
Mike,
I tried contacting PC Power & Cooling and what they did was they sent me a TurboATX 450 in advance and told me to send the TurboATX 400 back to them since they said that they don't want to be liable if my motherboard gets fried or something. So it was a good thing they did. Now, I wonder who made the TurboATX 450? I noticed that the new one no longer has the 115V/230V slider switch and it doesn't have the monitor power output pass-thru. The TurboATX 400 had a NMB 80mm 39cfm fan. The current one is a NIDEC Beta SL D08T-12PU which I can't find the CFM rate on since the model number isn't even near anything on NIDEC's site.
Vince
I tried contacting PC Power & Cooling and what they did was they sent me a TurboATX 450 in advance and told me to send the TurboATX 400 back to them since they said that they don't want to be liable if my motherboard gets fried or something. So it was a good thing they did. Now, I wonder who made the TurboATX 450? I noticed that the new one no longer has the 115V/230V slider switch and it doesn't have the monitor power output pass-thru. The TurboATX 400 had a NMB 80mm 39cfm fan. The current one is a NIDEC Beta SL D08T-12PU which I can't find the CFM rate on since the model number isn't even near anything on NIDEC's site.
Vince
If I had to guess, it is probably a Zippy/Emac's 450, but i'm not sure. I haven't seen the 450W PCpowerCooling One yet.
Its pretty cool that they did send you a new power supply, though.
Mike
P.S. Most newer power supplies dont' have the monitor pass through.
Its pretty cool that they did send you a new power supply, though.
Mike
P.S. Most newer power supplies dont' have the monitor pass through.
Mike,
Hmmm, I wonder is it possible to find out who made it by opening it up since PC&P power supplies don't even have the warranty seals on them.
It is pretty cool they sent me the new PS though. They even sent me the Turbo-Cool 2X Propulsion Exhaust thing but I'm not sure if it will actually help since the Enermax's back fan is probably better.
Vince
Hmmm, I wonder is it possible to find out who made it by opening it up since PC&P power supplies don't even have the warranty seals on them.
It is pretty cool they sent me the new PS though. They even sent me the Turbo-Cool 2X Propulsion Exhaust thing but I'm not sure if it will actually help since the Enermax's back fan is probably better.
Vince
I think the thing they sent you is the second 80mm fan that clips on ont he backside of the power supply, right?
I believe they sell this as a fail safe fan for critical use computer power supplies.
Mike
I believe they sell this as a fail safe fan for critical use computer power supplies.
Mike
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