Empire State Building Goes Red for Communist China, Sparking Protest

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

I didn't say we should ban the Empire State Building from doing this -- they are free to do so. However, I am free to voice my opinion that it is in poor taste and you won't convince me otherwise.

So we shouldn't honor any country that has a history of human rights abuses? Damn their goes the 4th of July celebration.

So you're equating the US with China now? I didn't realize it was our national prerogative to honor other countries now.

[/quote]Ok so it 's all about the degree of Human Rights abuse. Got it:roll:

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:roll:

Hey, you're right. I'll call my congresspeople and ask them to introduce a bill for a national "Kim Il Jung Day," since it is all just a matter of degree anyway.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

I didn't say we should ban the Empire State Building from doing this -- they are free to do so. However, I am free to voice my opinion that it is in poor taste and you won't convince me otherwise.

So we shouldn't honor any country that has a history of human rights abuses? Damn their goes the 4th of July celebration.

So you're equating the US with China now? I didn't realize it was our national prerogative to honor other countries now.

Ok so it 's all about the degree of Human Rights abuse. Got it:roll:

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:roll:

Hey, you're right. I'll call my congresspeople and ask them to introduce a bill for a national "Kim Il Jung Day," since it all just a matter of degree anyway.[/quote]
We already have a day for those like him, it's called Halloween

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I wonder what would happen if they would put up a big digital image of George Bush on the side of the building.

I wonder what would have happened if Bush had traveled to China during their Olympics, which would have made him the first US president to attend Olympics on foreign soil, thus both honoring China as well as implicitly sanctioning their regime. Oh, wait...

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JKing106

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst
And who said I didn't want to take any action against China? Who said I would be against sanctions, for example? It isn't my fault the Dems and Reps talk a big game with respect to human rights abuses in China but in the end, do nothing.

Yeah right as if you could give a shit about the average Chinese citizen.

One of the big issues I have with US foreign policy (regardless of the president) is that we selectively pick and choose when to suddenly advocate human rights. When WMDs aren't found, it suddenly becomes a war for "freedom and human rights." In the meantime, people in NK, Saudi Arabia, and various countries in Africa and Asia suffer under oppressive regimes. Am I saying go to war for every instance of human rights abuses? NO. Am I saying we should be consistent in our approaches to how we monitor these abuses and respond? YES.

Actually we should do what's best in the interest of our country and citizens.

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Let's start with bringing industry back to America and abolishing NAFTA.

Damn Republicans and them selling out to corporate interests! Oh wait...

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I wonder what would happen if they would put up a big digital image of George Bush on the side of the building.

I wonder what would have happened if Bush had traveled to China during their Olympics, which would have made him the first US president to attend Olympics on foreign soil, thus both honoring China as well as implicitly sanctioning their regime. Oh, wait...

Yes, going to China to support our Olympic Athlete's is the same as lighting up one of our own buildings in favor of the communist revolution. Good point. :roll:

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I wonder what would happen if they would put up a big digital image of George Bush on the side of the building.

I wonder what would have happened if Bush had traveled to China during their Olympics, which would have made him the first US president to attend Olympics on foreign soil, thus both honoring China as well as implicitly sanctioning their regime. Oh, wait...

Yes, going to China to support our Olympic Athlete's is the same as lighting up one of our own buildings in favor of the communist revolution. Good point. :roll:

Of course they're not the same. The emp st building is a privately owned entity who can choose to express whatever it wishes without government intervention or approval whereas the president is the embodiment of the people. His attendance smiling and having a great time in the olympic stands ran in all the Chinese media the next day as "American President Loves China and Approves of the Mandate of Heaven!" He could have stayed home and "supported the athletes" but explicitly refused to attend as a show of protest against the Communist regime. He didn't. He went and had some popcorn. Which, by the way, is fine with me. I didn't freak out when he went, I don't think it's an issue. Neither is this.

 

[Steeplerot]

A classic to pull sting from American rectum no need cry like menstruating housewife.

 

[polarbear6]

Free sushi for everyone ...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I wonder what would happen if they would put up a big digital image of George Bush on the side of the building.

I wonder what would have happened if Bush had traveled to China during their Olympics, which would have made him the first US president to attend Olympics on foreign soil, thus both honoring China as well as implicitly sanctioning their regime. Oh, wait...

Yes, going to China to support our Olympic Athlete's is the same as lighting up one of our own buildings in favor of the communist revolution. Good point. :roll:

Of course they're not the same. The emp st building is a privately owned entity who can choose to express whatever it wishes without government intervention or approval whereas the president is the embodiment of the people. His attendance smiling and having a great time in the olympic stands ran in all the Chinese media the next day as "American President Loves China and Approves of the Mandate of Heaven!" He could have stayed home and "supported the athletes" but explicitly refused to attend as a show of protest against the Communist regime. He didn't. He went and had some popcorn. Which, by the way, is fine with me. I didn't freak out when he went, I don't think it's an issue. Neither is this.

Burn

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I wonder what would happen if they would put up a big digital image of George Bush on the side of the building.

I wonder what would have happened if Bush had traveled to China during their Olympics, which would have made him the first US president to attend Olympics on foreign soil, thus both honoring China as well as implicitly sanctioning their regime. Oh, wait...

Yes, going to China to support our Olympic Athlete's is the same as lighting up one of our own buildings in favor of the communist revolution. Good point. :roll:

Of course they're not the same. The emp st building is a privately owned entity who can choose to express whatever it wishes without government intervention or approval whereas the president is the embodiment of the people. His attendance smiling and having a great time in the olympic stands ran in all the Chinese media the next day as "American President Loves China and Approves of the Mandate of Heaven!" He could have stayed home and "supported the athletes" but explicitly refused to attend as a show of protest against the Communist regime. He didn't. He went and had some popcorn. Which, by the way, is fine with me. I didn't freak out when he went, I don't think it's an issue. Neither is this.

No different than Obama bowing to Saudi Kings I guess.. I'm not sure if the Empire State Building is privately owned or if there is any public funds involved with it, but I'll take your word on that.. but there's also NOTHING wrong with Americans pointing out its in poor taste and encouraging them NOT to do it, and if they do (They did) encouraging people to take their business to a different landlord and encouraging people to spend their tourism dollars elsewhere. Actions have consequences, if you want to glorify the Chicom's then be prepared for the backlash if it happens.

 

[Genx87]

Probably a swap for more of our debt.

Anyways i think it is rather tasteless to honor a totalitarian state. What next on feb 27th, we put red, black and white lights to honor the take over of Germany by the Nazis?

There I used goodwins law, sue me!

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I wonder what would happen if they would put up a big digital image of George Bush on the side of the building.

I wonder what would have happened if Bush had traveled to China during their Olympics, which would have made him the first US president to attend Olympics on foreign soil, thus both honoring China as well as implicitly sanctioning their regime. Oh, wait...

Yes, going to China to support our Olympic Athlete's is the same as lighting up one of our own buildings in favor of the communist revolution. Good point. :roll:

Of course they're not the same. The emp st building is a privately owned entity who can choose to express whatever it wishes without government intervention or approval whereas the president is the embodiment of the people. His attendance smiling and having a great time in the olympic stands ran in all the Chinese media the next day as "American President Loves China and Approves of the Mandate of Heaven!" He could have stayed home and "supported the athletes" but explicitly refused to attend as a show of protest against the Communist regime. He didn't. He went and had some popcorn. Which, by the way, is fine with me. I didn't freak out when he went, I don't think it's an issue. Neither is this.

No different than Obama bowing to Saudi Kings I guess.. I'm not sure if the Empire State Building is privately owned or if there is any public funds involved with it, but I'll take your word on that.. but there's also NOTHING wrong with Americans pointing out its in poor taste and encouraging them NOT to do it, and if they do (They did) encouraging people to take their business to a different landlord and encouraging people to spend their tourism dollars elsewhere. Actions have consequences, if you want to glorify the Chicom's then be prepared for the backlash if it happens.

Wait, is that our first "bbbbbuuuuttt Obama!"

As to the bold, the master of strawmen strikes again.