Empire State Building Goes Red for Communist China, Sparking Protest

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Are you guys really that afraid of communism? Really? Who gives a shit what color the Empire State Building is.

so if they lit it up like a flaming cross to "honor" the KKK you would be ok with that?

After all who gives a shit what color the building is right?

It amazes me that some of the left-leaning people in the forum are dismissing this as no big deal, but you can bet that if the Empire State Building unfurled 100 ft long Confederate flags to "honor" the Confederacy, you can bet they would be the ones screaming the loudest.

In the grand scheme of things, this sends the wrong message and is in incredibly poor taste.

 

[JKing106]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Are you guys really that afraid of communism? Really? Who gives a shit what color the Empire State Building is.

so if they lit it up like a flaming cross to "honor" the KKK you would be ok with that?

After all who gives a shit what color the building is right?

It amazes me that some of the left-leaning people in the forum are dismissing this as no big deal, but you can bet that if the Empire State Building unfurled 100 ft long Confederate flags to "honor" the Confederacy, you can bet they would be the ones screaming the loudest.

In the grand scheme of things, this sends the wrong message and is in incredibly poor taste.

Just like buying Chinese products made by Communist workers. Have fun at YuangMart, comrade!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Are you guys really that afraid of communism? Really? Who gives a shit what color the Empire State Building is.

so if they lit it up like a flaming cross to "honor" the KKK you would be ok with that?

After all who gives a shit what color the building is right?

It amazes me that some of the left-leaning people in the forum are dismissing this as no big deal, but you can bet that if the Empire State Building unfurled 100 ft long Confederate flags to "honor" the Confederacy, you can bet they would be the ones screaming the loudest.

In the grand scheme of things, this sends the wrong message and is in incredibly poor taste.

In the grand scheme of things it's nothing to get worked up over, just another opportunity for wingnuts to whine.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Are you guys really that afraid of communism? Really? Who gives a shit what color the Empire State Building is.

so if they lit it up like a flaming cross to "honor" the KKK you would be ok with that?

After all who gives a shit what color the building is right?

It amazes me that some of the left-leaning people in the forum are dismissing this as no big deal, but you can bet that if the Empire State Building unfurled 100 ft long Confederate flags to "honor" the Confederacy, you can bet they would be the ones screaming the loudest.

In the grand scheme of things, this sends the wrong message and is in incredibly poor taste.

Because Confederate flags have considerable meaning in the United States. They are a symbol of racism and slavery, particularly in this country. My comment was obviously assuming that people would act within reason. Everyone would be mad if they covered the Empire State Building with twirling swastika sparklers too, but I figured that went without saying.

If you think that making one of our buildings red for a day is in incredibly poor taste because of the various human rights abuses that China engages in (I assume that's the problem, if you're just mad about their economics this is definitely absurd), what the hell does it make the massive amounts of trade and diplomatic engagement we do? If you guys really want to get all hot and bothered over a building being a different color because China is so evil, lets do this right. Lets actually take meaningful action against it, trade sanctions, cut off diplomatic relations, jack up our military around it, indict their leaders for crimes against humanity.

Oh, you guys don't want to do that. You want to complain about a building.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Are you guys really that afraid of communism? Really? Who gives a shit what color the Empire State Building is.

so if they lit it up like a flaming cross to "honor" the KKK you would be ok with that?

After all who gives a shit what color the building is right?

It amazes me that some of the left-leaning people in the forum are dismissing this as no big deal, but you can bet that if the Empire State Building unfurled 100 ft long Confederate flags to "honor" the Confederacy, you can bet they would be the ones screaming the loudest.

In the grand scheme of things, this sends the wrong message and is in incredibly poor taste.

Because Confederate flags have considerable meaning in the United States. They are a symbol of racism and slavery, particularly in this country. My comment was obviously assuming that people would act within reason. Everyone would be mad if they covered the Empire State Building with twirling swastika sparklers too, but I figured that went without saying.

If you think that making one of our buildings red for a day is in incredibly poor taste because of the various human rights abuses that China engages in (I assume that's the problem, if you're just mad about their economics this is definitely absurd), what the hell does it make the massive amounts of trade and diplomatic engagement we do? If you guys really want to get all hot and bothered over a building being a different color because China is so evil, lets do this right. Lets actually take meaningful action against it, trade sanctions, cut off diplomatic relations, jack up our military around it, indict their leaders for crimes against humanity.

Oh, you guys don't want to do that. You want to complain about a building.

It takes less effort.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Are you guys really that afraid of communism? Really? Who gives a shit what color the Empire State Building is.

so if they lit it up like a flaming cross to "honor" the KKK you would be ok with that?

After all who gives a shit what color the building is right?

It amazes me that some of the left-leaning people in the forum are dismissing this as no big deal, but you can bet that if the Empire State Building unfurled 100 ft long Confederate flags to "honor" the Confederacy, you can bet they would be the ones screaming the loudest.

In the grand scheme of things, this sends the wrong message and is in incredibly poor taste.

Because Confederate flags have considerable meaning in the United States. They are a symbol of racism and slavery, particularly in this country. My comment was obviously assuming that people would act within reason. Everyone would be mad if they covered the Empire State Building with twirling swastika sparklers too, but I figured that went without saying.

If you think that making one of our buildings red for a day is in incredibly poor taste because of the various human rights abuses that China engages in (I assume that's the problem, if you're just mad about their economics this is definitely absurd), what the hell does it make the massive amounts of trade and diplomatic engagement we do? If you guys really want to get all hot and bothered over a building being a different color because China is so evil, lets do this right. Lets actually take meaningful action against it, trade sanctions, cut off diplomatic relations, jack up our military around it, indict their leaders for crimes against humanity.

Oh, you guys don't want to do that. You want to complain about a building.

For starters, I am not hot and bothered about it -- I was making an observation. I think it is in poor taste, which is what I said, and I think you guys are being hypocritical about it for the reasons I stated above.

And who said I didn't want to take any action against China? Who said I would be against sanctions, for example? It isn't my fault the Dems and Reps talk a big game with respect to human rights abuses in China but in the end, do nothing.

EDIT: I am not saying take action against them for the color of a damn building, I am saying just don't color the building to honor them in the first place.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Are you guys really that afraid of communism? Really? Who gives a shit what color the Empire State Building is.

so if they lit it up like a flaming cross to "honor" the KKK you would be ok with that?

After all who gives a shit what color the building is right?

It amazes me that some of the left-leaning people in the forum are dismissing this as no big deal, but you can bet that if the Empire State Building unfurled 100 ft long Confederate flags to "honor" the Confederacy, you can bet they would be the ones screaming the loudest.

In the grand scheme of things, this sends the wrong message and is in incredibly poor taste.

Because Confederate flags have considerable meaning in the United States. They are a symbol of racism and slavery, particularly in this country. My comment was obviously assuming that people would act within reason. Everyone would be mad if they covered the Empire State Building with twirling swastika sparklers too, but I figured that went without saying.

If you think that making one of our buildings red for a day is in incredibly poor taste because of the various human rights abuses that China engages in (I assume that's the problem, if you're just mad about their economics this is definitely absurd), what the hell does it make the massive amounts of trade and diplomatic engagement we do? If you guys really want to get all hot and bothered over a building being a different color because China is so evil, lets do this right. Lets actually take meaningful action against it, trade sanctions, cut off diplomatic relations, jack up our military around it, indict their leaders for crimes against humanity.

Oh, you guys don't want to do that. You want to complain about a building.

It takes less effort.

It apparently also takes less effort just to nod and say "no problem" then to think about it and say "Wow, that is in bad taste."

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: blanghorst
And who said I didn't want to take any action against China? Who said I would be against sanctions, for example? It isn't my fault the Dems and Reps talk a big game with respect to human rights abuses in China but in the end, do nothing.

Yeah right as if you could give a shit about the average Chinese citizen.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst
And who said I didn't want to take any action against China? Who said I would be against sanctions, for example? It isn't my fault the Dems and Reps talk a big game with respect to human rights abuses in China but in the end, do nothing.

Yeah right as if you could give a shit about the average Chinese citizen.

One of the big issues I have with US foreign policy (regardless of the president) is that we selectively pick and choose when to suddenly advocate human rights. When WMDs aren't found, it suddenly becomes a war for "freedom and human rights." In the meantime, people in NK, Saudi Arabia, and various countries in Africa and Asia suffer under oppressive regimes. Am I saying go to war for every instance of human rights abuses? NO. Am I saying we should be consistent in our approaches to how we monitor these abuses and respond? YES.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst
And who said I didn't want to take any action against China? Who said I would be against sanctions, for example? It isn't my fault the Dems and Reps talk a big game with respect to human rights abuses in China but in the end, do nothing.

Yeah right as if you could give a shit about the average Chinese citizen.

One of the big issues I have with US foreign policy (regardless of the president) is that we selectively pick and choose when to suddenly advocate human rights. When WMDs aren't found, it suddenly becomes a war for "freedom and human rights." In the meantime, people in NK, Saudi Arabia, and various countries in Africa and Asia suffer under oppressive regimes. Am I saying go to war for every instance of human rights abuses? NO. Am I saying we should be consistent in our approaches to how we monitor these abuses and respond? YES.

Actually we should do what's best in the interest of our country and citizens.

 

[Fear No Evil]

I wonder what would happen if they would put up a big digital image of George Bush on the side of the building.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst
And who said I didn't want to take any action against China? Who said I would be against sanctions, for example? It isn't my fault the Dems and Reps talk a big game with respect to human rights abuses in China but in the end, do nothing.

Yeah right as if you could give a shit about the average Chinese citizen.

One of the big issues I have with US foreign policy (regardless of the president) is that we selectively pick and choose when to suddenly advocate human rights. When WMDs aren't found, it suddenly becomes a war for "freedom and human rights." In the meantime, people in NK, Saudi Arabia, and various countries in Africa and Asia suffer under oppressive regimes. Am I saying go to war for every instance of human rights abuses? NO. Am I saying we should be consistent in our approaches to how we monitor these abuses and respond? YES.

Actually we should do what's best in the interest of our country and citizens.

You are correct. So tell me, how does coloring a building red and yellow to honor China serve our best interest?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

One of the big issues I have with US foreign policy (regardless of the president) is that we selectively pick and choose when to suddenly advocate human rights. When WMDs aren't found, it suddenly becomes a war for "freedom and human rights." In the meantime, people in NK, Saudi Arabia, and various countries in Africa and Asia suffer under oppressive regimes. Am I saying go to war for every instance of human rights abuses? NO. Am I saying we should be consistent in our approaches to how we monitor these abuses and respond? YES.

Actually we should do what's best in the interest of our country and citizens.

You are correct. So tell me, how does coloring a building red and yellow to honor China serve our best interest?

Well first of all it's not the action of our Government and secondly it promotes goodwill between the two countries.

You think the Chinese hate their country and their government and if we were to put forth sanctions against them the average Chinese would approve?

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Are you guys really that afraid of communism? Really? Who gives a shit what color the Empire State Building is.

Not afraid of communism, just think China doesn't deserve to be honored for the systematic destruction of human rights.

this.

 

[Elias824]

Maybe if we are really nice to the chinese they will lend us more money.

 

[JKing106]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst
And who said I didn't want to take any action against China? Who said I would be against sanctions, for example? It isn't my fault the Dems and Reps talk a big game with respect to human rights abuses in China but in the end, do nothing.

Yeah right as if you could give a shit about the average Chinese citizen.

One of the big issues I have with US foreign policy (regardless of the president) is that we selectively pick and choose when to suddenly advocate human rights. When WMDs aren't found, it suddenly becomes a war for "freedom and human rights." In the meantime, people in NK, Saudi Arabia, and various countries in Africa and Asia suffer under oppressive regimes. Am I saying go to war for every instance of human rights abuses? NO. Am I saying we should be consistent in our approaches to how we monitor these abuses and respond? YES.

Actually we should do what's best in the interest of our country and citizens.

+++

Let's start with bringing industry back to America and abolishing NAFTA.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: JKing106

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst
And who said I didn't want to take any action against China? Who said I would be against sanctions, for example? It isn't my fault the Dems and Reps talk a big game with respect to human rights abuses in China but in the end, do nothing.

Yeah right as if you could give a shit about the average Chinese citizen.

One of the big issues I have with US foreign policy (regardless of the president) is that we selectively pick and choose when to suddenly advocate human rights. When WMDs aren't found, it suddenly becomes a war for "freedom and human rights." In the meantime, people in NK, Saudi Arabia, and various countries in Africa and Asia suffer under oppressive regimes. Am I saying go to war for every instance of human rights abuses? NO. Am I saying we should be consistent in our approaches to how we monitor these abuses and respond? YES.

Actually we should do what's best in the interest of our country and citizens.

+++

Let's start with bringing industry back to America and abolishing NAFTA.

Don't forget the WTO. We need to walk away and get as far away from the WTO as fast as we can...and not look back.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: blanghorst
You are correct. So tell me, how does coloring a building red and yellow to honor China serve our best interest?

Cheaper Happy Meals.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: blanghorst
You are correct. So tell me, how does coloring a building red and yellow to honor China serve our best interest?

Cheaper Happy Meals.

Now that you mention it, red and gold are also the colors of McDonald's.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You think the Chinese hate their country and their government and if we were to put forth sanctions against them the average Chinese would approve?

I think we got kind of sidetracked. I don't think this is some global emergency which necessitates an emergency session of the UN or something. Let me quote TruePaige, who I agree with:

Not afraid of communism, just think China doesn't deserve to be honored for the systematic destruction of human rights.

I didn't say we should ban the Empire State Building from doing this -- they are free to do so. However, I am free to voice my opinion that it is in poor taste and you won't convince me otherwise.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

One of the big issues I have with US foreign policy (regardless of the president) is that we selectively pick and choose when to suddenly advocate human rights. When WMDs aren't found, it suddenly becomes a war for "freedom and human rights." In the meantime, people in NK, Saudi Arabia, and various countries in Africa and Asia suffer under oppressive regimes. Am I saying go to war for every instance of human rights abuses? NO. Am I saying we should be consistent in our approaches to how we monitor these abuses and respond? YES.

Actually we should do what's best in the interest of our country and citizens.

You are correct. So tell me, how does coloring a building red and yellow to honor China serve our best interest?

Well first of all it's not the action of our Government and secondly it promotes goodwill between the two countries.

You think the Chinese hate their country and their government and if we were to put forth sanctions against them the average Chinese would approve?

cool does that mean we get to see the great wall decked out with red white and blue buntings on the 4th of July?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You think the Chinese hate their country and their government and if we were to put forth sanctions against them the average Chinese would approve?

I think we got kind of sidetracked. I don't think this is some global emergency which necessitates an emergency session of the UN or something. Let me quote TruePaige, who I agree with:

Not afraid of communism, just think China doesn't deserve to be honored for the systematic destruction of human rights.

I didn't say we should ban the Empire State Building from doing this -- they are free to do so. However, I am free to voice my opinion that it is in poor taste and you won't convince me otherwise.

So we shouldn't honor any country that has a history of human rights abuses? Damn their goes the 4th of July celebration.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
So we shouldn't honor any country that has a history of human rights abuses? Damn their goes the 4th of July celebration.

Perhaps we should limit the celebrations to those countries that are constantly striving to end human rights abuses, even if they are guilty of a few of their own throughout their history...?

Or, do you equate the modern U.S. to modern China? If so, how and why?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You think the Chinese hate their country and their government and if we were to put forth sanctions against them the average Chinese would approve?

I think we got kind of sidetracked. I don't think this is some global emergency which necessitates an emergency session of the UN or something. Let me quote TruePaige, who I agree with:

Not afraid of communism, just think China doesn't deserve to be honored for the systematic destruction of human rights.

I didn't say we should ban the Empire State Building from doing this -- they are free to do so. However, I am free to voice my opinion that it is in poor taste and you won't convince me otherwise.

So we shouldn't honor any country that has a history of human rights abuses? Damn their goes the 4th of July celebration.

So you're equating the US with China now? I didn't realize it was our national prerogative to honor other countries now.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

I didn't say we should ban the Empire State Building from doing this -- they are free to do so. However, I am free to voice my opinion that it is in poor taste and you won't convince me otherwise.

So we shouldn't honor any country that has a history of human rights abuses? Damn their goes the 4th of July celebration.[/quote]

So you're equating the US with China now? I didn't realize it was our national prerogative to honor other countries now.

[/quote]Ok so it 's all about the degree of Human Rights abuse. Got it:roll: