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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Not really, beacuse you can be tracked unequivocally with your IP anyway, so who cares if they happened to use your CC number. In any case, many usenet providers do not keep logs, and specifically state as much, so then all somebody sees is that you're a subscriber to a usenet server--and they all have a lot of legal content, as well.
In reality though, I don't think either is really a danger to the user/downloader, as they've mostly been going after the large-scale facilitators.
Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.
Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?
All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.
You doubt the backdoor???Originally posted by: Reck
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.
Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?
All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.
ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
This is what happens when you use public trackers.. are people really that stupid/naive?
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You doubt the backdoor???Originally posted by: Reck
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.
Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?
All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.
ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.
Show me one Patriot Act case thrown out.
Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You doubt the backdoor???Originally posted by: Reck
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.
Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?
All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.
ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.
Show me one Patriot Act case thrown out.
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.
MUAHAH
I like the "EVERY ROUTER" quote too.
Last I checked with my buddies who run international networks none of them even know of this "back door"
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You doubt the backdoor???Originally posted by: Reck
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.
Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?
All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.
ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.
Show me one Patriot Act case thrown out.
Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You doubt the backdoor???Originally posted by: Reck
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.
Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?
All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.
ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.
Show me one Patriot Act case thrown out.
Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.
FBI's requests for router monitoring access
It pains me to do this, but McOwen is right for once. As phone companies move to packet switching networks, the government has asked telecom manufacturers that they provide wiretap-equivalent capabilities for the next generation of routers in order to maintain the ability for lawful access.Originally posted by: Nik
I want to see a credible site. dslreports is hardly a .gov site with legitimate information on the subject.Originally posted by: dmcowen674
FBI's requests for router monitoring accessOriginally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.
Originally posted by: yllus
It pains me to do this, but McOwen is right for once. As phone companies move to packet switching networks, the government has asked telecom manufacturers that they provide wiretap-equivalent capabilities for the next generation of routers in order to maintain the ability for lawful access.Originally posted by: Nik
I want to see a credible site. dslreports is hardly a .gov site with legitimate information on the subject.Originally posted by: dmcowen674
FBI's requests for router monitoring accessOriginally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.
Canada is in the process of enacting an even worse law, if it's any consolation.Originally posted by: virtueixi
In America computer downloads you!
Edit: Whoa, I just realized you guys are talking about home routers! Of course those won't be affected by this law, that's just moronic. This is big backend routers only. How stupid do you have to be to think home routers will get backdoors built in? Some 15 year old hacker would crack the access in 10 minutes and run buckwild.Section 103 of CALEA sets forth the assistance capability requirements that telecommunications carriers need to maintain to support law enforcement in the conduct of lawfully-authorized electronic surveillance. Specifically, CALEA directs the telecommunications industry to design, develop, and deploy solutions that meet certain assistance capability requirements.
Pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, carriers must be able to: (1) expeditiously isolate all wire and electronic communications of a target transmitted by the carrier within its service area; (2) expeditiously isolate call-identifying information of a target; (3) provide intercepted communications and call-identifying information to law enforcement; and (4) carry out intercepts unobtrusively, so targets are not made aware of the electronic surveillance, and in a manner that does not compromise the privacy and security of other communications.
Originally posted by: yllus
Canada is in the process of enacting an even worse law, if it's any consolation.Originally posted by: virtueixi
In America computer downloads you!
The U.S. Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act - Implementation:
Section 103 of CALEA sets forth the assistance capability requirements that telecommunications carriers need to maintain to support law enforcement in the conduct of lawfully-authorized electronic surveillance. Specifically, CALEA directs the telecommunications industry to design, develop, and deploy solutions that meet certain assistance capability requirements.
Pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, carriers must be able to: (1) expeditiously isolate all wire and electronic communications of a target transmitted by the carrier within its service area; (2) expeditiously isolate call-identifying information of a target; (3) provide intercepted communications and call-identifying information to law enforcement; and (4) carry out intercepts unobtrusively, so targets are not made aware of the electronic surveillance, and in a manner that does not compromise the privacy and security of other communications.
Edit: Whoa, I just realized you guys are talking about home routers! Of course those won't be affected by this law, that's just moronic. This is big backend routers only. How stupid do you have to be to think home routers will get backdoors built in? Some 15 year old hacker would crack the access in 10 minutes and run buckwild.