Elite Torrents raided, 10 people served search warrants

[Homerboy]

and they all have a lot of legal content, as well.

Like nudies!

 

[Skiguy411]

Here is a transcript from a supposed IRC conversation

[11:29pm]«@ [Bleach]» Ok this is the deal people listen closely
[11:30pm]«@ [Bleach]» This whole ordeal started with a STOLEN workprint form lucas films
[11:30pm]«@ [Bleach]» This promted a FEDERAL investigation on that particular release
[11:30pm]«@ [Bleach]» Now MPAA could not touch ET (civily) but because a CRIMINAL
[11:30pm]«@ [Bleach]» CASE was issued that now changes the RULES
[11:31pm]«@ [Bleach]» lucas wanted someones head on a platter
[11:31pm]«@ [Bleach]» Said it cost the film Big dollars making it a felony
[11:31pm]«@ [Bleach]» Said it was taken over seas to foreign countries
[11:31pm]«@ [Bleach]» thus bringing in ICE
[11:32pm]«@ [Bleach]» NOW someone from ET leaked to the WRONG people that ET had this release up
[11:32pm]«@ [Bleach]» 6 hours prior to its first showin
[11:32pm]«@ [Bleach]» And that it was DL 10k times
[11:32pm]«@ [Bleach]» This focused the CRIMINAL case on to ET
[11:33pm]«@ [Bleach]» (thinking it was probably someone here) BUT NO IT WAS NOT ANYONE FROM ET WHO STOLE THE MOVIE
[11:33pm]«@ [Bleach]» FBI shuts ET down issue warrants for admins PC
[11:33pm]«@ [Bleach]» NOT ALL WARRANTS WERE ET STAFF
[11:33pm]«@ [Bleach]» TWO admins were raided and ONLY their PC was taken
[11:33pm]«@ [Bleach]» NO arrest have been made
[11:33pm]«@ [Bleach]» No other details have been leaked
[11:34pm]«@ [Bleach]» Right now there is still a CRIMINAL case going on with the SW3 WORKPRINT RELEASE
[11:34pm]«@ [Bleach]» Those who DL may have something to worry about
[11:34pm]«@ [Bleach]» BUT for now only those who made it AVAILABLE has to worry about it
[11:35pm]«@ [Bleach]» NOw I DO NOT
[11:35pm]«@ [Bleach]» KNOW what is to become of the logs with the star wars DL
[11:36pm]«@ [Bleach]» I DONT KNOW what Kryl0n is doing
[11:36pm]«@ [Bleach]» or gone to
[11:36pm]«@ [Bleach]» This came from a MOD who called to update someone on what happened to the 2 admins
[11:36pm]«@ [Bleach]» That is it for now

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Not really, beacuse you can be tracked unequivocally with your IP anyway, so who cares if they happened to use your CC number. In any case, many usenet providers do not keep logs, and specifically state as much, so then all somebody sees is that you're a subscriber to a usenet server--and they all have a lot of legal content, as well.

With just your IP address you have SOME plausible deniability - "my little brother did it" or "oops, I didn't realize I was sharing my wireless router with the entire neighborhood..." With a credit card, you'd have a hard time denying it. Yeah, they don't keep logs... but it's not outside the realm of possibility that the FBI could raid them and keep it quiet for a few days while monitoring the traffic.

In reality though, I don't think either is really a danger to the user/downloader, as they've mostly been going after the large-scale facilitators.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Financial damage?! ROFL!! Star Wars EPIII was out on the net before it was in theaters and it STILL made MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLIONS of dollars. Those fvcking asswipes need their head examined.

 

[imported_Reck]

The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap. The only way they are going after usenet is from the unloaders, they could care less about downloaders. I mean just think about it...usenet is a global network, it's just technically not feasible to crack down on.

 

[Homerboy]

In reality though, I don't think either is really a danger to the user/downloader, as they've mostly been going after the large-scale facilitators.

Actually as long as you are simply leeching and not providing (you do both with BT) then you are much MUCH less of a target. They are more concerned with those uploading, whether it be to 0sec FTPs or 2k/sec over BT than somebody pulling down 600KB/sec off their paid NG server.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.

Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?

All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.

 

[Platypus]

This is what happens when you use public trackers.. are people really that stupid/naive?

 

[imported_Reck]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.

Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?

All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.

ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Reck

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.

Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?

All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.

ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.

You doubt the backdoor???

Show me one Patriot Act case thrown out.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
This is what happens when you use public trackers.. are people really that stupid/naive?

they just dont know is what is is, i download more then most people useing BT, however none of it is illegel (yet), i average around 8 gigs a day, and they are all from public trackers because i dont know of a single privite one that has anything i want to DL

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.

Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?

All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.

ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.

You doubt the backdoor???

Show me one Patriot Act case thrown out.

Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.

 

[Homerboy]

Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.

MUAHAH
I like the "EVERY ROUTER" quote too.
Last I checked with my buddies who run international networks none of them even know of this "back door"

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.

Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?

All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.

ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.

You doubt the backdoor???

Show me one Patriot Act case thrown out.

I have heard that the constitutionality of the Patriot Act has come into question and the government was avoiding using evidence acquired by the Patriot Act because it would all for the courts to challenge it. So thus far there has been no prosecution by evidence of the Patriot Act.

This was just something I heard on NPR.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.

MUAHAH
I like the "EVERY ROUTER" quote too.
Last I checked with my buddies who run international networks none of them even know of this "back door"

Shhh, you're ruining my fun

 

[AnyMal]

good! lock'em up.

 

[Nitemare]

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

<---pours some rum out on the ground for his arrested homies

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.

Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?

All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.

ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.

You doubt the backdoor???

Show me one Patriot Act case thrown out.

Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.

FBI's requests for router monitoring access

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Reck
The FBI cannot just log your usenet downloads, that'd be an illegal wiretap.

Hehehehehe never heard of the Patriot Act eh?

All Routers now have backdoor built-in just for the FBI.

ummm why do i really doubt that? besides if it was found out that the patriot act was used as a means of gathering evidence, the case would be thrown out of the court I think.

You doubt the backdoor???

Show me one Patriot Act case thrown out.

Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.

FBI's requests for router monitoring access

I want to see a credible site. dslreports is hardly a .gov site with legitimate information on the subject.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.

FBI's requests for router monitoring access

I want to see a credible site. dslreports is hardly a .gov site with legitimate information on the subject.

It pains me to do this, but McOwen is right for once. As phone companies move to packet switching networks, the government has asked telecom manufacturers that they provide wiretap-equivalent capabilities for the next generation of routers in order to maintain the ability for lawful access.

 

[virtueixi]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Let's see some documentation or fact about this 'back door' other than what's under your tin foil hat.

FBI's requests for router monitoring access

I want to see a credible site. dslreports is hardly a .gov site with legitimate information on the subject.

It pains me to do this, but McOwen is right for once. As phone companies move to packet switching networks, the government has asked telecom manufacturers that they provide wiretap-equivalent capabilities for the next generation of routers in order to maintain the ability for lawful access.

In America computer downloads you!

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: virtueixi
In America computer downloads you!

Canada is in the process of enacting an even worse law, if it's any consolation.

The U.S. Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act - Implementation:

Section 103 of CALEA sets forth the assistance capability requirements that telecommunications carriers need to maintain to support law enforcement in the conduct of lawfully-authorized electronic surveillance. Specifically, CALEA directs the telecommunications industry to design, develop, and deploy solutions that meet certain assistance capability requirements.

Pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, carriers must be able to: (1) expeditiously isolate all wire and electronic communications of a target transmitted by the carrier within its service area; (2) expeditiously isolate call-identifying information of a target; (3) provide intercepted communications and call-identifying information to law enforcement; and (4) carry out intercepts unobtrusively, so targets are not made aware of the electronic surveillance, and in a manner that does not compromise the privacy and security of other communications.

Edit: Whoa, I just realized you guys are talking about home routers! Of course those won't be affected by this law, that's just moronic. This is big backend routers only. How stupid do you have to be to think home routers will get backdoors built in? Some 15 year old hacker would crack the access in 10 minutes and run buckwild.

 

[rh71]

I get to use the phrase, "those suckers got served" twice in 2 days.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: virtueixi
In America computer downloads you!

Canada is in the process of enacting an even worse law, if it's any consolation.

The U.S. Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act - Implementation:

Section 103 of CALEA sets forth the assistance capability requirements that telecommunications carriers need to maintain to support law enforcement in the conduct of lawfully-authorized electronic surveillance. Specifically, CALEA directs the telecommunications industry to design, develop, and deploy solutions that meet certain assistance capability requirements.

Pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, carriers must be able to: (1) expeditiously isolate all wire and electronic communications of a target transmitted by the carrier within its service area; (2) expeditiously isolate call-identifying information of a target; (3) provide intercepted communications and call-identifying information to law enforcement; and (4) carry out intercepts unobtrusively, so targets are not made aware of the electronic surveillance, and in a manner that does not compromise the privacy and security of other communications.

Edit: Whoa, I just realized you guys are talking about home routers! Of course those won't be affected by this law, that's just moronic. This is big backend routers only. How stupid do you have to be to think home routers will get backdoors built in? Some 15 year old hacker would crack the access in 10 minutes and run buckwild.

Which is where I was going with his moronic statement.. "every router."
This type of posting seems pretty typical from him.

Utterly hysterical.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

This is natural selection at work. Anyone dumb enough to have themselves exposed by having anything to do with Torrents is too stupid to be allowed out on the streets unsupervised. Locking these people up improves the gene pool. Torrents are insecure, torrents have been vulnerable to government snooping from day 1 and torrent sites are constant targets. So what sort of brain damage is required to wake up one day and say "Hey, I think I'll run a tracker site, no way anything could go wrong!!"

Dumb asses!