Election Crisis in Iran! (ongoing thread)

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ProfJohn

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Yeah that's what we need a good speech, he can engage the mullahs with meaningful dialogue and he can get these issues resolved.

He IS the great communicator and he can be a source of reason and calm.
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I think you misunderstand what I am saying.


At THIS point today the best thing we can do is give support to the protesters. If we are lucky they will take care of the regime for us. For Obama to get confrontational will only help the mullahs.

Later on down the road if the revolution fails then we can talk about getting tough.
 
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Acanthus

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Mousavi is giving a speech now.

Mousavi is at head of Jayhoon ave. giving a speech.
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Where are you getting all this news from?
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People are liveblogging twitter feeds from inside Iran. There is a currently a blackout of all media. They are using proxies to circumvent the state crackdown on communication.

Apparently Mousavi said something along the lines of "I am ready for martyrdom if it means there will be a free Iran."

If you want to follow along the raw twitter feed is #iranelection. Much of the information is redundant though. The liveblogs i posted earlier are slower but more accurate and less hassle.
 
Budmantom

Budmantom

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Yeah that's what we need a good speech, he can engage the mullahs with meaningful dialogue and he can get these issues resolved.

He IS the great communicator and he can be a source of reason and calm.
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I think you misunderstand what I am saying.


At THIS point today the best thing we can do is give support to the protesters. If we are lucky they will take care of the regime for us. For Obama to get confrontational will only help the mullahs.

Later on down the road if the revolution fails then we can talk about getting tough.
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I agree, this is a situation where Obama can step up and be a leader...... now lets see what happens.



 
MovingTarget

MovingTarget

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Looks like today really is the day of reckoning. If they cannot completely stomp out the protesters, the gvt of Iran will fall....just a matter of time. If they succeed, then it may be another two decades before the people get bold enough again.
 
Nitemare

Nitemare

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
If the Iranian protesters turn violent, they will lose the support of the people and the same is true for the Mullahs if they use unwarranted violence to repress the protests.
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The Mullahs, militia, police and the bussed in thugs have been violent from the very start
 
ProfJohn

ProfJohn

Lifer
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Damn I wish I had cable!!!! :(

We could be watching history. It could be the fall of 1989 all over again.
 
ZzZGuy

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Seems they are spraying the protesters with acid by helicopter from what I've read in the blogs and various comments. Now not your skin melting strong, but enough to feel like its burning it seems.
 
MovingTarget

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Damn I wish I had cable!!!! :(

We could be watching history. It could be the fall of 1989 all over again.
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Cable news has been sorely lacking, esp. amongst the 24hr networks. You are better off sticking to the internets...
 
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Craig234

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Originally posted by: ZzZGuy
Seems they are spraying the protesters with acid by helicopter from what I've read in the blogs and various comments. Now not your skin melting strong, but enough to feel like its burning it seems.
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Sounds like what modern police forces refer to as non-lethal techniques, along with rubber bullets, tasers, bean bag shotguns, etc.
 
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Acanthus

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Damn I wish I had cable!!!! :(

We could be watching history. It could be the fall of 1989 all over again.
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Cable news has been sorely lacking, esp. amongst the 24hr networks. You are better off sticking to the internets...
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They are having trouble verifying dates of the videos and pictures being released, because of the media blackout in Iran.

The new surge in videos is because cellphones started working again in parts of the city.
 
shiner

shiner

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Craig234
We should have done this in the US in 2000...
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All of your posts are basically the same thing.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

But this one is over the top stupid. So congratulations, it is only June but you have already wrapped up the douchebag of the year award.
 
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