Eh what the hell...UPDATED WITH CARD IN COMPUTER

[Solarflare]

Just wondering if these scores seem low to anyone...

LE6800 flashed to Ultra @350/1100

O/Ced to 400/1150

3dMark05-4000
Aquamark3-63000

Sys.

Athlon3400+ L21MB @200x11 (No O/C)
DFI 250Gb NF3
512Mb PDP Patriot @ 2-3-2-5
Enermax 460W PSU (33A on the +12v)

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Solarflare
Just wondering if these scores seem low to anyone...

LE6800 flashed to Ultra @350/1100

O/Ced to 400/1150

3dMark05-4000
Aquamark3-63000

Sys.

Athlon3400+ L21MB @200x11 (No O/C)
DFI 250Gb NF3
512Mb PDP Patriot @ 2-3-2-5
Enermax 460W PSU (33A on the +12v)

Yet another one. When your core fails, will you be defrauding eVGA trying to return it, or a man and eating your $325 loss?

 

[Rhagz]

My 6800le running at 400/1100 ultra bios scored 4800, and with gt bios 400/1100 scores 5100, so those seem a tad low to me..

/em loves his $300 ultra

 

[Rhagz]

This is the problem with much of this thread:

You've got a lot of people who for some reason thought these cards were $300 6800Us when they were never advertised or warranted as such.

Newsflash: Just because you wish they were and are too cheap to spend the extra $175 on a real Ultra, eVGA doesn't owe you anything, especially if you've flashed the bios and/or OCd.

For Christs sake, when are you guys going to stop buying Hyundais and pretending you're owed a Porsche?

noone is saying anything about being OWED an ultra.. most of the people complaining were complaining that the card WOULD NOT run at 325/1100 like the card WAS ADVERTISED to do. Most of them CAME clocked at 325/700 and STILL would NOT run properly. Those people who got their cards running the same as a stock Ultra are VERY happy and pleased with their product, at least I know I am. So please get off your high horse and go enjoy your own $600 purchase and I'll sit here and enjoy my identical product for half the price. Thanks!

And yes, the people who got the bad cards that would not run at 325/1100, even AFTER getting an official updated bios FROM eVGA directly ARE owed something. Either they should get a working 325/1100 LE or the opportunity to get a refund or replacement product.. like the $25 stepup to GT deal.

 

[Solarflare]

Originally posted by: Rhagz


noone is saying anything about being OWED an ultra.. most of the people complaining were complaining that the card WOULD NOT run at 325/1100 like the card WAS ADVERTISED to do. Most of them CAME clocked at 325/700 and STILL would NOT run properly. Those people who got their cards running the same as a stock Ultra are VERY happy and pleased with their product, at least I know I am. So please get off your high horse and go enjoy your own $600 purchase and I'll sit here and enjoy my identical product for half the price. Thanks!

And yes, the people who got the bad cards that would not run at 325/1100, even AFTER getting an official updated bios FROM eVGA directly ARE owed something. Either they should get a working 325/1100 LE or the opportunity to get a refund or replacement product.. like the $25 stepup to GT deal.

AMEN to that!

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Rhagz

This is the problem with much of this thread:

You've got a lot of people who for some reason thought these cards were $300 6800Us when they were never advertised or warranted as such.

Newsflash: Just because you wish they were and are too cheap to spend the extra $175 on a real Ultra, eVGA doesn't owe you anything, especially if you've flashed the bios and/or OCd.

For Christs sake, when are you guys going to stop buying Hyundais and pretending you're owed a Porsche?

noone is saying anything about being OWED an ultra.. most of the people complaining were complaining that the card WOULD NOT run at 325/1100 like the card WAS ADVERTISED to do. Most of them CAME clocked at 325/700 and STILL would NOT run properly. Those people who got their cards running the same as a stock Ultra are VERY happy and pleased with their product, at least I know I am. So please get off your high horse and go enjoy your own $600 purchase and I'll sit here and enjoy my identical product for half the price. Thanks!

I don't believe these were advertised to run at 325/1100, I think they were advertised at 325/700 and came at 325/1100.

In any case, there are a lot of weasels in this thread, so I emailed it to eVGA to let them know how their EXTREME generosity (giving away GTs) is regarded. I hope they change their policy accordingly, this kind of crap costs honest people who actually pay for what they get money.

Cheers.

BTW- I'm not against OCing. I'm currently running my 6800NU unlocked at 325/800 while my GT gathers dust on the shelf.

If it dies, I'll eat the loss.

 

[Rhagz]

No, they were indeed listed as 325/1100.. i wish i had the spec sheet still, but i lost it in a HD change.. maybe someone else here has it on hand to link. I am positive that the memory was advertised as 1100 though. Otherwise they wouldn't have come with DDR3 ram chips.

BTW- I'm not against OCing. I'm currently running my 6800NU unlocked at 325/800 while my GT gathers dust on the shelf.

If it dies, I'll eat the loss

I have yet to see one person post here saying they burned their card due to OCing. Nonetheless someone RMA'ing a burned card due to OCing.. you are jumping to conclusions and judging people on things that have not happened yet.

Edit: http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/N347.pdf = 325 core clock/550 - 1100 effective mem clock.. it says it right there.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Rhagz
No, they were indeed listed as 325/1100.. i wish i had the spec sheet still, but i lost it in a HD change.. maybe someone else here has it on hand to link. I am positive that the memory was advertised as 1100 though. Otherwise they wouldn't have come with DDR3 ram chips.

BTW- I'm not against OCing. I'm currently running my 6800NU unlocked at 325/800 while my GT gathers dust on the shelf.

If it dies, I'll eat the loss

I have yet to see one person post here saying they burned their card due to OCing. Nonetheless someone RMA'ing a burned card due to OCing.. you are jumping to conclusions and judging people on things that have not happened yet.

They come with DDR3 because they are 6800Us that failed quality testing, but you're right, they were at 1100 on the memory.

Anyone in this thread who is trying to return their card after flashing the bios or clocking it at more than 325/1100 is stealing. Are you honestly saying I can't find anyone in these 1000+ posts doing that?

 

[Rhagz]

They come with DDR3 because they are 6800Us that failed quality testing

this is an assumption, the truth is noone knows what these cards were/are and why they were even released on the market. I bet if eVGA had it to do over, they would melt them down for scrap silicon instead of repeating this fiasco.

Anyone in this thread who is trying to return their card after flashing the bios or clocking it at more than 325/1100 is stealing. Are you honestly saying I can't find anyone in these 1000+ posts doing that?

I have not seen one single person doing that.. of course this thread is 72 pages long and I cannot honestly say I have red every single post. I do know the nature of these forums however, and most people here do not take kindly to false RMA'ing and I am pretty sure I would notice this issue springing up. Could be wrong though, so feel free to find that person who did do this and point it out if you wish.

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Anyone in this thread who is trying to return their card after flashing the bios or clocking it at more than 325/1100 is stealing. Are you honestly saying I can't find anyone in these 1000+ posts doing that?

normally i would agree with you 100% ~ but in this case i have to disagree.

many if not most of these cards wont run even at default speeds. if it wasnt for our bios flashing there would have been alot more RMAs then there are now. the bios flashing does fix about 75% of these cards. even eVGA has released a bios for us to flash to ~ but it doesnt work nearly as well as the bios files we are using (if at all).

the LE6800 is just one huge F-UP on eVGAs part, we are just trying to get them to run.
some of us are lucky and got them to work.
some of us got even luckier and got them to OC.

the stock speed of 325mhz core is severly flawed and does not work correctly on these cards. 350mhz does work tho. care to explain that?

you are right tho, some ppl (OCers) are expecting way too much. they need to realize that even if it only runs 350/1000 ~ its still better then a GT.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK

Originally posted by: Rollo
Anyone in this thread who is trying to return their card after flashing the bios or clocking it at more than 325/1100 is stealing. Are you honestly saying I can't find anyone in these 1000+ posts doing that?

normally i would agree with you 100% ~ but in this case i have to disagree.

many if not most of these cards wont run even at default speeds. if it wasnt for our bios flashing there would have been alot more RMAs then there are now. the bios flashing does fix about 75% of these cards. even eVGA has released a bios for us to flash to ~ but it doesnt work nearly as well as the bios files we are using (if at all).

the LE6800 is just one huge F-UP on eVGAs part, we are just trying to get them to run.
some of us are lucky and got them to work.
some of us got even luckier and got them to OC.

the stock speed of 325mhz core is severly flawed and does not work correctly on these cards. 350mhz does work tho. care to explain that?

you are right tho, some ppl (OCers) are expecting way too much. they need to realize that even if it only runs 350/1000 ~ its still better then a GT.

I'm not talking about bios flashing per eVGAs recommendation to fix the cards Thugsrook, and I don't know why 325 doesn't work for you.

What I object to is:

I could oc pretty high...I decided to flash to the rev. 3 LE-Ultra. After flash I could no longer oc with rivatuner or coolbits( no prob after powerstrip). Also, now 2 current games im playing exhibit a 'snow effect' where there are black and white dots that come and go from different textures

Hmm, you think he damaged his card with these antics? Said he clocked the core at 465?

I was having random freezes in 3dmarkxx and doom3 when OC'ing the card with the Rev2 1.4 Ultra bios. These occured mostly it seemed at loading screens. If I ran it at stock speeds (400/1100) I had no problems.

This is NOT stock speed for this card, it's a HUGE overclock on the core.

was one of the ulucky ones that got a card from zzf with the 700Mhz memory. First I flashed the card with the 1.4v ultra bios, it set the memory to 700 as well. I was able to push it
to 420/1100 via powerstrip, the only problem I have is when I run need for speed underground. I get random pauses that last for about 5 seconds. If I clock the memory down below 850
the game runs without issue. then he posts

Screw it, Im gonna RMA and ask for my money back. I just played need for speed hot pursuit2 and it does the exact same thing. Works fine when I drop the memory down.

So it doesn't run at stock speed he received it, RMA/theft.

I flashed my Limited Edition to 400/1100 BIOS by THUGS, then overclocked some more to 425/1100
i got a high score on the 3dmark05, 5734 is what i got. but after the testings i started playing games like doom3... sucked.. it freezes.. sometimes it unlocks from it but sometime it causes me to restart.. now im runnin 350/1100.. seems stable but the low FPS really bugs me

Yeah that would anger me not to get something I didn't pay for too.... :roll:

yea its stable, but not a single MHZ over though. soon as i step up to 475 i get artifacts, same with the ram.

Yeah pretty honorable. It's only OCd 50%, why the heck won't it run like that?!?!

im going to try one more time to get an ultra. i think its fair for how we have been treated. just one last comparison.

Yeah you deserve a free Ultra because you didn't get soemthing for nothing Lithker.

There's very little "honorable" in this thread Thugs, aside from your helpful nature. What you mainly have here is a bunch of cry babies/thieves angry they didn't get an Ultra for $325..

 

[nRollo]

BTW what SHOULD have happened with these cards:

325/700 guys: I believe this is how ZZF advertised these, so no recourse, not as great a deal though. (but still a VERY high quality 256MB NU)

325/1100 newegg guys: should do handsprings across the yard they got a downclocked U for $330.. If they wanted a U should have paid $500..

 

[Rhagz]

was one of the ulucky ones that got a card from zzf with the 700Mhz memory. First I flashed the card with the 1.4v ultra bios, it set the memory to 700 as well. I was able to push it
to 420/1100 via powerstrip, the only problem I have is when I run need for speed underground. I get random pauses that last for about 5 seconds. If I clock the memory down below 850
the game runs without issue. then he posts
quote:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Screw it, Im gonna RMA and ask for my money back. I just played need for speed hot pursuit2 and it does the exact same thing. Works fine when I drop the memory down.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


So it doesn't run at stock speed he received it, RMA/theft.

He is saying that it would not run properly over 850 on the mem clock.. this is 250mhz slower than advertised.
Granted, his problem is probably not an issue with the card, it is more likely a driver/NFS game problem that is already fixed in later drivers/patches, or will be soon. If it works in everything else except two games that are nearly identical, then that is a likely source.

Anyway, ZZF advertised them as 1100 just like newegg .. you cant hide behind this. It never happened. They were always stated to be 1100 on the mem clock. I know. I ordered mine from ZZF and it came at 700, and I was fully aware that it was wrong. I am one of the "lucky" majority that is able to run it at 400/1100 with no problems whatsoever.

 

[racefan]

Originally posted by: Rollo
BTW what SHOULD have happened with these cards:

325/700 guys: I believe this is how ZZF advertised these, so no recourse, not as great a deal though. (but still a VERY high quality 256MB NU)



Wrong sorry nope nodda. ZZF's ad was exactly the same wording as Newegg and even had a PDF from eVGA that said 325 / 1100

 

[supernac]

Originally posted by: Rollo
BTW what SHOULD have happened with these cards:

325/700 guys: I believe this is how ZZF advertised these, so no recourse, not as great a deal though. (but still a VERY high quality 256MB NU)

325/1100 newegg guys: should do handsprings across the yard they got a downclocked U for $330.. If they wanted a U should have paid $500..

Sorry but you dont know what your talking about .http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/...jsp?ProductCode=322699

Most of my games will not run at the stock 1100 speed, I have to down clock it to 700.
Why should we eat the $325? Most of us just want what we paid for 325/1100. I guess
you want us to bend over and take it? ZZF has agreed to give me a refund (with some help
from EVGA) and I plan on buying the BFG 6800 GT OC, I figure the $100 extra dollars is worth
the lifetime warranty, and good customer service. I still cant figure out why EVGA expects us
to pay an additional $25 for a working card. EVGA's warranty clearly says that they will repair or
replace a defective card at NO COST to the customer.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

Please find your way out of this thread, you can't even relate, you don't own and LE. You are also trying to pick apart posts that don't warrrant it. You JUST showed up to a 30 page long thread and expected we'd let you sh*t all over it? Furthermore there is plenty of substance and honesty in here, the only people actually complaining here are the ones that didn't get what they PAID for. Everything above that is a pleasant surprise, you merely clipped out random sentences and put a twist on it. Seriously, get over it.

When eVGA gets RMAs don't you think they check for damage due to user error? Why do you think the gentleman Joe Darwin is getting involved PERSONALLY, there is an obvious problem here and you refuse to see that, shut the hell up.

 

[THUGSROOK]

Rollo ~ you are very correct on many counts.
what you are seeing here is the ppl with problems, ppl w/o any problems are playing games, not posting.

i personally think the bios flashing has done way more good then harm. there would be way more unhappy ppl right now if i wasnt for the ability to replace the bios.

the stock bios is extremely bugged. these cards were never meant to run at only 325mhz core, and it causes alot of problems no matter what bios is used. (its below range) we learned early that boosting the core to 350mhz resolves that bug.

essentially every single LE6800 should have been returned for RMA because of the stock bios. i dont think eVGA woulda been able to handle that large a problem. at this point anyone that hasnt RMAed their LE6800 is doing eVGA a favor ~ a huge favor.

read the (very large) BE thread and youll see why i started modding the bios to begin with.

 

[Rhagz]

No need to defend him Thugs.. he isnt right on that many counts. Yes I do agree that people who blow up their cards by pushing it farther than humanly possible shouldnt RMA and say "it didnt work from the start" but this is a moral philosophy, not an active topic in this discussion. Again, I will concede that some people probably just assumed they would get this card and it would be an ultra right out of the box with no effort. The fact is, it is like any other piece of high tech hardware, if you want to ge the most out of it, it takes time and effort (a lot of which you and Aonic did for us, and we are very grateful that you did).

And thats about all i can give on this.. this constant bashing of people who got bad cards (out of the box bad) and the blatant false information thats is easily refuted with about 5 seconds of research is just BS..

what you are seeing here is the ppl with problems, ppl w/o any problems are playing games, not posting.

Im just here for the weekend >< WoW open Beta ended and release is tuesday!

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

I concur, when running dual monitors on the LE doing certain things would cause BOTH LCDs to black out constantly and flicker, esp when changing display properties, it was MADDENING.

The ultra flash cured it, and i dunno, it just seems to even feel better. The LE bios was definatly trashy.

The LE bios also used the wrong DVI port for the primary display on both of my LEs, when i flashed to ultra i had to swap the cables around both times.

 

[racefan]

This is the problem with much of this thread:

You've got a lot of people who for some reason thought these cards were $300 6800Us when they were never advertised or warranted as such.

Newsflash: Just because you wish they were and are too cheap to spend the extra $175 on a real Ultra, eVGA doesn't owe you anything, especially if you've flashed the bios and/or OCd.

For Christs sake, when are you guys going to stop buying Hyundais and pretending you're owed a
Porsche?[/quote]


Hello if I may interject on page 72 of a thread discusting a 6800 limited edition and things that work or don't work with a limited card and then you chine in with the above remark making the thread 1 more post longer and start injecting comments about these cards that it seems you know nothing about with you doubt they were sold as 325 / 1100 at only ZZF ( Evga made two different batches of the exact same card I guess ) but as 325/ 700 and I will go to say you do not own one of these cards. Maybe 1 or 2 of the cards RMA'ed have had wild OC's throne at them but most never worked right out of the box.

Here is the exact ad from ZZF
eVGA e-GeForce 6800 Limited Edition AGP 8X 256MB DDR3 Video Card w/TV-Out &amp; Dual DVI Retail ***Free 2nd Day***

NON-REFUNDABLE. Replacement for defective units only.


ZipZoomFly Part#: 322699
Lead Time: Out of Stock
Manufacturer: EVGA
Manufacturer SKU: 256-A8-N347
Our Price: $349.00






Description Back to Top



256-bit GeForce 6800 (325MHz clock)
256MB 256-bit 1.6ns (8x32) DDR3 Memory
(550MHz clock - 1100MHz effective)
AGP 8X/4X Compatibility (AGP 3.0 Compliant)
Integrated NVIDIA TV Encoder (S-Video)
Dual DVI-I Connectors
35.2 GB per second memory bandwidth
Product Details Back to Top


Retail
Manufacturer Product Specifications


Warranty Back to Top

Warranty Length: One Year Manufacturer warranty.
Coverage: Covers repair or replacement of the product.
Provider: eVGA
Contact: eVGA Customer Service at 1-714-528-4500
Technical Support: eVGA Technical Support at 1-888-881-EVGA (3842) or submit a Tech Support Request Form

Service Location: eVGA provides warranty service at a mail-in location.
Service Time: Please allow 2-3 weeks for warranty service.
Sales Policies &amp; Additional Information Back to Top
ZipZoomFly accepts credit cards for all purchases.

AND A LINK TO THE AD ALSO http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/...jsp?ProductCode=322699

 

[supernac]

Originally posted by: Rhagz

was one of the ulucky ones that got a card from zzf with the 700Mhz memory. First I flashed the card with the 1.4v ultra bios, it set the memory to 700 as well. I was able to push it
to 420/1100 via powerstrip, the only problem I have is when I run need for speed underground. I get random pauses that last for about 5 seconds. If I clock the memory down below 850
the game runs without issue. then he posts
quote:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Screw it, Im gonna RMA and ask for my money back. I just played need for speed hot pursuit2 and it does the exact same thing. Works fine when I drop the memory down.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


So it doesn't run at stock speed he received it, RMA/theft.

He is saying that it would not run properly over 850 on the mem clock.. this is 250mhz slower than advertised.
Granted, his problem is probably not an issue with the card, it is more likely a driver/NFS game problem that is already fixed in later drivers/patches, or will be soon. If it works in everything else except two games that are nearly identical, then that is a likely source.

Anyway, ZZF advertised them as 1100 just like newegg .. you cant hide behind this. It never happened. They were always stated to be 1100 on the mem clock. I know. I ordered mine from ZZF and it came at 700, and I was fully aware that it was wrong. I am one of the "lucky" majority that is able to run it at 400/1100 with no problems whatsoever.

The pauses that I'm seeing are not "swap file delays" the game stops for about 5 seconds. I have tried
all of the updates, tried like 5 diffrent drivers updated chipset drivers, set my BIOS via EVGA's website.. If this was/is a known bug you would see all kinds of people complaining. Hopfully I'm not the only person playing these games on a geforce6 card. Doom3 has a FPS cap at 60FPS, this might be the reason it is not doing it. Also the same pause happens in 3dmark05. These games were running good on my ATI 8500, now they are unplayable with the default clock speed's. EVGA didnt just accidently flash a bunch of cards to 700, they had a reason for it. More than likley they got a batch with bad memory. I for one dont want a card that may/may not have memory issues, esp. when I only have a one year warranty.

 

[Rhagz]

Just happened to notice this on PAGE 2 of this thread

Originally posted by: Rollo
IMO anyone in the market for a good card that doesn't order this is on crack.

and in another post on page 6 or 7:

Pfft.
1. The "real" 6800GT has 10% slower RAM
2. The "real" 6800GT has a cheaper cooling solution
3. Since when have gamers cared about the slot next to their AGP card?
4. Last I looked, one brand of 6800GT was $350 at one place, and that brand has a cheesy new cooling solution nobody seems to like. 6800GTs are $375 > at newegg I believe.

This card is the deal of the century. Although you are right that it may not have all 16 pipes, that would make it equivalent to the Asus V9999GE which splits the difference between a 6800NU and a GT, and with 10% faster RAM, this card would be even closer. Besides, has anyone actually gotten one that is 12 pipes?

... like wtf /boggle.. you seem to have forgotten an awful lot about these cards since your previous visit to this thread.. Anyway, I am sure if i dug further I could find more.. but I rest my case.. not that I had one or anything, but umm yeah

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: racefan

Originally posted by: Rollo
BTW what SHOULD have happened with these cards:

325/700 guys: I believe this is how ZZF advertised these, so no recourse, not as great a deal though. (but still a VERY high quality 256MB NU)



Wrong sorry nope nodda. ZZF's ad was exactly the same wording as Newegg and even had a PDF from eVGA that said 325 / 1100

I was wrong about the ZZF and apologize for that, but nonetheless, this thread is full of BS "it won't work at Ultra speed for me, they owe me big!".

My making a mistake about the ZZF ad and what was promised there does not change this fact.

 

[Rhagz]

The "it wont run at ultra speed so im rma'ing" isnt occuring as often as you make it out to be.. and you are making it seem like this is the only issue with the card. 99% of the people with problems are having problems running at STOCK ADVERTISED 325/1100 speeds.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Rhagz
Just happened to notice this on PAGE 2 of this thread

Originally posted by: Rollo
IMO anyone in the market for a good card that doesn't order this is on crack.

and in another post on page 6 or 7:

Pfft.
1. The "real" 6800GT has 10% slower RAM
2. The "real" 6800GT has a cheaper cooling solution
3. Since when have gamers cared about the slot next to their AGP card?
4. Last I looked, one brand of 6800GT was $350 at one place, and that brand has a cheesy new cooling solution nobody seems to like. 6800GTs are $375 > at newegg I believe.

This card is the deal of the century. Although you are right that it may not have all 16 pipes, that would make it equivalent to the Asus V9999GE which splits the difference between a 6800NU and a GT, and with 10% faster RAM, this card would be even closer. Besides, has anyone actually gotten one that is 12 pipes?

... like wtf /boggle.. you seem to have forgotten an awful lot about these cards since your previous visit to this thread.. Anyway, I am sure if i dug further I could find more.. but I rest my case.. not that I had one or anything, but umm yeah

What "boggles" your "mind" here Rhagz?
I meant exactly what I said, and still have the same opinion? What I don't like is the complaining that they won't run at Ultra speeds, the huge OCs then reports of static, and the demands for free Ultras because a much cheaper card didn't work as planned.

Not too "tough" to understand?