Egypt protest broke out in violence

[fed3r2198]

One of the best lines I read was a Yahoo Headline.

Egyptian Prez sorry about the out the outburst of automatic guns from his military.... Or something like that.
Now THAT is the best example of "easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission".

UNBELIEVABLE.

I'm not sure now recent that was, but just watching Jazeera snipers have opened fire on the crowd.

 

[iGas]

Police drove their vehicle over protesters. -- Graphics, may be NSFW.

And, now "A Greek journalist was stabbed while covering the events in Tahrir Square."

Such disregard for human life. IMHO, the dictator and his thugs has to go.

 

[sandorski]

It seems News Crews are being deliberately swarmed on an increasing basis.

At this point I think the Egyptian Military is just playing a Good Cop routine. Fully supportive of Mubarak, but with a kinder/gentler approach to pacification of the Public. Still makes them better than the Police, but not much IMO. I'm doubly suspicious about this because up until a couple days ago all these "Mubarak Supporters"(not saying this group doesn't exist, because they do, but there's a whole lot more going on here than just Supporters speaking out) couldn't have acted as there were tight controls on Weapons possession into these crowds. Suddenly that control ends and Pro-Mubarak thugs just appear? Uh, ya, sure.

 

[Patranus]

So only the Muslim radicals are allowed to voice their opinion in the street?

Got it.

Anyways, things always break out into violence when two opposing sides meet that have such difference views.

 

[sandorski]

So only the Muslim radicals are allowed to voice their opinion in the street?

Got it.

Anyways, things always break out into violence when two opposing sides meet that have such difference views.

fail

 

[camera3d]

The sad thing is that nothing there will get better, it's not like they will turn into a democracy..
There is an old smart sentence from the African politics and regime changes.
"A full lion is better than an hungry one.."
Mubarak is full, the "new lion" will be hungry, and will need to feed HIS people with power position jobs, corruption will be back sooner then they expect..

 

[iGas]

The sad thing is that nothing there will get better, it's not like they will turn into a democracy..
There is an old smart sentence from the African politics and regime changes.
"A full lion is better than an hungry one.."
Mubarak is full, the "new lion" will be hungry, and will need to feed HIS people with power position jobs, corruption will be back sooner then they expect..

It is possible that the outcome will be a negative outcome to the West, however it could go the other way as well.

The US viewed Vietnam in a very negative way after fall of Saigon 1975 that they placed an embargo on till it was lifted in 1993. And since then the relationship between Washington and Hanoi is much closer than it ever was (much closer than the Franco US time, Ngo Dinh Diem, or Ngyen Van Thieu time).

The US is extremely negative to Cuba for many years and currently, however Cuba hasn't become a rogue state that threaten its neighbors or its population.

Both Cuba & Vietnam as well as every other countries in the world are corrupt, but they didn't become rogue nations as painted by the spin doctors. And, the US is far from being one that is with out corruptions.

IMHO, we should give the Egyptian a chance to determine their future instead of injecting negativities and what if.

 

[JEDIYoda]

not everyone involved is a muslim!

you really one of a kind aren`t you??
well duh...there has to be several in the crowd who are not Muslim...mabe less that 1% of 1% of 1% of 1% of 1%........lolol...Earth calling fed3r2198........HELLoooooo

 

[JEDIYoda]

They did peacefully protest. Millons of them, for days. Until the US/Israeli backed government sent thugs to violently attack them, they also include coptic christians and they aren't protesting anything to do with religion so why the hell are you spreading hate against muslims?

I hate to say this but Patranus is correct when he say -- Anyways, things always break out into violence when two opposing sides meet that have such difference views.

 

[fed3r2198]

So only the Muslim radicals are allowed to voice their opinion in the street?

Got it.

So Egyptians are Muslim radicals just because they protest for democracy?

I hate to say this but Patranus is correct when he say -- Anyways, things always break out into violence when two opposing sides meet that have such difference views.

Such a change in tune from the anti-muslim bile you were spilling before. Were you instructed to change your message?

Egyptian authorities forced Vodafone to broadcast government-scripted text messages during the protests that have rocked the country, the U.K.-based mobile company said Thursday.


Micro-blogging site Twitter has been buzzing with screen grabs from Vodafone's Egyptian customers showing text messages sent over the course of the protests against Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's 30-year-old regime.


A text message received Sunday by an Associated Press reporter in Egypt appealed to the country's "honest and loyal men to confront the traitors and criminals and protect our people and honor." The sender is identified only as "Vodafone."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2011/02/03/egypt_vodafone_text_messages/index.html

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

WTF does religion have to do with this? This is all about politics, idiot. And Ghandi was killed by a violent nationalist Hindu, moron.

If you knew ANYTHING about Egypt you would know that the population has been driving for a harsher Islamic law, it's the will of the people, or so they think.

I fully expect them to change their minds and beg for help when they get exactly what they asked for.

It has everything to do with religion, that is WHY the only opposition is the Muslim Brotherhood.

You might think that is great, a democratic election, but there have NEVER been another election when Islamic fundamentalists have taken over, what has ALWAYS happened is a theocracy that remains a dictatorship forever.

If ANYONE think that politics and religion are separate things in ANY of these nations, you are fucking retarded.

 

[fed3r2198]

If you knew ANYTHING about Egypt you would know that the population has been driving for a harsher Islamic law, it's the will of the people, or so they think.

I fully expect them to change their minds and beg for help when they get exactly what they asked for.

It has everything to do with religion, that is WHY the only opposition is the Muslim Brotherhood.

You might think that is great, a democratic election, but there have NEVER been another election when Islamic fundamentalists have taken over, what has ALWAYS happened is a theocracy that remains a dictatorship forever.

If ANYONE think that politics and religion are separate things in ANY of these nations, you are fucking retarded.

Right, its only muslim extremists out protesting. Your just another zionist hitting the panick button trying to make people scared of muslims.

If these protests are only muslim extremists why are Christians out in the streets helping them?

http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...ring-prayer-in-cairos-dangerous-tahrir-square

 

[IGBT]

this whole mess smells like jimmy carter.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Right, its only muslim extremists out protesting. Your just another zionist hitting the panick button trying to make people scared of muslims.

If these protests are only muslim extremists why are Christians out in the streets helping them?

http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...ring-prayer-in-cairos-dangerous-tahrir-square

You are very new to this forum and you should probably wait a while before putting people into your molds.

I'm fairly known to disagree with people like Infohawk and Zebo regarding all muslims being violent or Islam being a violent religion, i usually bring up examples like RIRA (very close to home for me) and LRA to show that the situation rather than the religion is what causes violence.

Let's not kid ourselves though, the overwhelming majority are people rooting for the opposition which is the Muslim Brotherhood, if you don't know that, please stop posting and inform yourself about the situation.

You are right though, i'm for a Jewish homeland, i don't believe that the Jews should be driven out into sea and Israel destroyed so yes, i am a Zionist.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Such a change in tune from the anti-muslim bile you were spilling before. Were you instructed to change your message?

thats the best you can do you sniveling Muslim sympatizer.
The facts are the facts and as wrong as you think things might be this is one concrete fact --Patranus is correct when he say -- Anyways, things always break out into violence when two opposing sides meet that have such difference views.

Attack the fact not me for posting the fact!

 

[JSt0rm]

thats the best you can do you sniveling Muslim sympatizer.
The facts are the facts and as wrong as you think things might be this is one concrete fact --Patranus is correct when he say -- Anyways, things always break out into violence when two opposing sides meet that have such difference views.

Attack the fact not me for posting the fact!

Israel is proof of this fact eh?

 

[Moonbeam]

if you don`t like my opinion nobody twisted your arm to get you involved in the thread.

It`s convenient how since you don`t agree with me that I must be trolling.......

So what issues do you have exactly with my claim that Islam is the religion of peace......

Anybody with an ounce of distance from the issue can see you are trolling. A number of folk handed you your ass but you shined them on. No bigot ever sees or wants to know he's a bigot. You are a bigot.

 

[Moonbeam]

I hate to say this but Patranus is correct when he say -- Anyways, things always break out into violence when two opposing sides meet that have such difference views.

Patranus is a know idiot.

 

[bamacre]

Inflation rates in Egypt...
12.8% (2010 est.)
11.9% (2009 est.)

That's the root of their economic problems.

 

[piasabird]

Muslims are just prone to violence.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

its so ridiculous to hear the americans talking about freedom/democracy after supporting mubarek all this time. hilary clinton talks about the right to freedom of the press because they gaybashed anderson cooper. who is america to tell a foreign country that they need to have freedom of the press? since when does america make the laws for foreign countries. if they dont want agitators/"reporters" in their country they had every right to beat the crap out of them

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Muslims are just prone to violence.

then americans are even more prone to violence

 

[sportage]

I think its rich the US press is all upset that they are being tossed out and roughed up in Egypt.
Like this wouldn’t/doesn’t happen here....
Just Google "GW Bush rally's 2006".
PLeaseeeeee...... Give me a break.

Freedom means different things for different people.

Here... freedom means healthcare getting rich off the poor and sick.
Taxing the poor into poverty. Tax breaks for the very very rich.
Turning over middle class taxes to billionaire CEO's.
Starting wars over government lies.
Stupid uneducated kids.
Sarah Palin reasoning.
Ipads.

There... Looting and beating up dead ancient mummies.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

I think its rich the US press is all upset that they are being tossed out and roughed up in Egypt.
Like this wouldn’t/doesn’t happen here....
Just Google "GW Bush rally's 2006".
PLeaseeeeee...... Give me a break.

Freedom means different things for different people.

Here... freedom means healthcare getting rich off the poor and sick.
Taxing the poor into poverty. Tax breaks for the very very rich.
Turning over middle class taxes to billionaire CEO's.
Starting wars over government lies.
Stupid uneducated kids.
Sarah Palin reasoning.
Ipads.

There... Looting and beating up dead ancient mummies.

The looting and stuff is being done by Mubarak's thugs. You know, the combination of police and criminals released if they promised to create chaos.

Just like the demonstrations were peaceful until the thugs attacked, Mubarak clearly shows he has no morals and is a dictator which should be removed as soon as possible.

'Freedom' means being free of Mubarak and his criminals to the people demonstrating there. Unfortunately those that benefitted from him being in power (both in Egypt and in other countries) still support his dictatorship.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

The looting and stuff is being done by Mubarak's thugs. You know, the combination of police and criminals released if they promised to create chaos.

Just like the demonstrations were peaceful until the thugs attacked, Mubarak clearly shows he has no morals and is a dictator which should be removed as soon as possible.

'Freedom' means being free of Mubarak and his criminals to the people demonstrating there. Unfortunately those that benefitted from him being in power (both in Egypt and in other countries) still support his dictatorship.

mubarek is not a criminal or a dictator any more than saddam was. he has to deal with a violent maniacal mass in his country and he just did what he had to do to prevent them from blowing up the planet. thank god he's been kicking the egyptian peoples' asses for the last 30 years, keeping them under control and helping control oil prices here