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gorcorps

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wasn't that interested because Cruise is old, Oblivion was boring, and Sci-fi groundhogs day sounds like a really dumb idea

but if everybody says it's good I might actually have to see it.
 

Imp

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wasn't that interested because Cruise is old, Oblivion was boring, and Sci-fi groundhogs day sounds like a really dumb idea

but if everybody says it's good I might actually have to see it.

Go watch Emily Blunt then...
 

BeeBoop

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Fukken LOVED IT!!!!!!!!! So awesome. I fell in love with Emily Blunt too. lol

Edit:
How did the book end?
 
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Ruptga

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Fukken LOVED IT!!!!!!!!! So awesome. I fell in love with Emily Blunt too. lol

Edit:
How did the book end?

I haven't seen it yet, but the book ended with
Rita and Keiji getting pretty close over the hundred or so battles they shared. They were in her penthouse together getting ready for the coming battle when the mimics surprise attacked their base. The mimics realized that they would lose on the original battlefield every time, so they went all-in. It's a slaughter, but Rita and Keiji led the counterattack and fought them off. As they were wrapping up Rita started a duel with Keiji, because only one of them can survive the loop without the loop resetting itself. Rita was probably better, but Keiji won because he learned from her and knows her moves. After the battle he is given Rita's old position in the army, and it ends with him toasting his teacher and his fucked up world.
 

BeeBoop

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I haven't seen it yet, but the book ended with
Rita and Keiji getting pretty close over the hundred or so battles they shared. They were in her penthouse together getting ready for the coming battle when the mimics surprise attacked their base. The mimics realized that they would lose on the original battlefield every time, so they went all-in. It's a slaughter, but Rita and Keiji lead the counterattack and fought them off. As they were wrapping up Rita started a duel with Keiji, because only one of them can survive the loop without the loop resetting itself. Rita was probably better, but Keiji won because he learned from her and knows her moves. After the battle he is given Rita's old position in the army, and it ends with him toasting his teacher and his fucked up world.


O wow, completely different ending. lol


Thanks!
 

Aikouka

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How did the book end?

I was curious, and fortunately, Wikipedia has a summary. I'll try and put in the important bits that differentiate the book...

The book opens from the first person perspective of Keiji Kiriya in the middle of his first battle against an army of mimics. Humans are fighting as a part of the United Defense Force (UDF), a worldwide army created to fight against the Mimics.

The UDF is trying to hold Kotoiushi Island as it is the last line of defense before the Mimics overrun an industrial area of Japan that supplies most of the technology for the Jackets that the soldiers wear.

Keiji is fatally wounded then found by the United States Special Forces super soldier Rita Vrataski, nicknamed Full Metal Bitch by the Americans and Mad Wargarita by the Japanese.

Keiji decides he won’t go down without a fight either. He sees a Mimic that for some reason stands out from the rest. It looks the same as all the others, but for some reason it seems different. Keiji charges and kills the Mimic with three shots from his Pile Driver. He blacks out after killing the Mimic.

Chapter 2 ends during the battle of Keiji’s 158th loop where he finds the Mimic that he killed during his first battle that trapped him the loop. While the Mimic looks the same as all the others, again he is just able to tell that it’s different. Just as he charges to kill the Mimic, Rita comes over his headphones and asks him, “How many loops is this for you?” Keiji now knows he’s not the only to have experienced these loops.

She was then placed in a Special Forces unit. After six months in the unit they were sent to a crucial battle to retake the state of Florida. It’s in this battle she killed a Mimic that gave her the ability to loop. After over 200 loops she discovered the Mimics have different roles and also have the ability to loop. In every Mimic force there is a central Mimic that is a Server. There is also an Antenna Mimic and Backup Antennae Mimics. If the Server dies, the Antenna Mimic or a Backup sends a pulse with all the battle information the Server learned back in time to the Server. The time loop is about 30 hours. To end the loop Rita learns she must kill the Antenna Mimic, then the Backups, and finally the server so that no pulse can be sent back to cause the loop.

In every other battle loop except for loops 1 and 159, Rita kills the Server Mimic yet the signal is still sent back to Keiji and the Server Mimic. Rita has no memory of this though because of her lost connection to the Server. After 8 hours of rallying troupes and battling the Mimics Rita suddenly turns on Keiji. She has realized why she is no longer looping and the loop still occurred for Keiji the previous time. Because Keiji killed the Server in the first battle he replaced Rita as the link to the Server and became the one to loop. However, because of her developed connection to the Mimics, Rita is now an Antenna. To end the loop Keiji must kill Rita as well before killing the Server Mimic. She forces him to do this by fighting him to the death. Keiji realizes the only way to escape the loop is to kill her. Rita is a super soldier, but she learned all of her skills alone. Keiji learned his by studying Rita and knows her every move. He’s able to kill her and win the battle against the Mimics breaking the loop.

Keiji is eventually exonerated from killing Rita and recruited to take her place with the US Special Forces unit. They give him the nickname Killer Cage because the Americans pronounce his name “Cage”. Keiji vows to continue the fight until the last Mimic is killed.
 

blankslate

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Hopefully the DVD has the title "Edge of Tomorrow: or All you Need is Kill" sort of like the title "Dr. Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb"

:p
 

Thebobo

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Which Hollywood did not steal that name from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Future_Past

1981. If you want you could possibly say that the comic book writers stole the title from there but I fail to see any connection.

Yea it was Marvel that stole from the Moody Blues then. Guess Dream Records should of gone after Marvel, they probably had no clue.

Anyway I will wait a week until the crowds die down and go see this movie.
 

allisolm

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Anyone see it in Imax and/or 3D? If so, what did you think? Worth the extra $?
 

BeeBoop

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The credits said it was done through post-process. Although, I think IMAX would be pretty cool as it's a big, crazy action movie.


Honestly, I'm not a big 3D fan. I've only ever seen Tron in 3D and hated it. I felt that it got in the way so I never went to see a movie in 3D again. 3D probably works better for cartoons than it does real actors.
 

Ruptga

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Honestly, I'm not a big 3D fan. I've only ever seen Tron in 3D and hated it. I felt that it got in the way so I never went to see a movie in 3D again. 3D probably works better for cartoons than it does real actors.

It works very well when it's shot for 3D and the director is good. If it's a post-process thing or the director is a tard then 3D definitely just gets in the way.
 

Aikouka

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Honestly, I'm not a big 3D fan. I've only ever seen Tron in 3D and hated it. I felt that it got in the way so I never went to see a movie in 3D again. 3D probably works better for cartoons than it does real actors.

When I see 3D, I prefer things that occur in the negative parallax (i.e. shit that comes out at you). The problem with positive parallax (i.e. "behind" the screen) is that I already perceive that depth based on what I'm seeing. One of the strongest examples that I remember was when I was watching Tron Legacy in 3D. Now, to note, sometimes, I can't really tell what's in 3D, so I'll remove my glasses to see what's blurry. Blurry items are being presented in 3D because the item being presented in 3D's position is offset between the images that are presented to each eye. So, it's not really blurry but more like we're seeing double. Anyway, during the train scene in Tron Legacy, I remember removing my glasses, and noticing that the only thing in 3D was the railing on the train as the actors (Jeff Bridges and what's-his-face) were right at the front of the screen.

The best use of 3D that I can ever recall is when I was seeing some movie in 3D, and the very short Real 3D promo trailer came on before the movie. It had some weird, robotic bouncing ball thing that popped out of the screen. I watched it practically come out right at me, and it was awesome. Another great example is IMAX Under the Sea. Whenever I show someone this video, I just say "wait for the cod fish!" That thing swims right out at you, and it's awesometacular.

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Honestly, the worst part about in-the-home 3D is the prevalence of active stereoscopy. Most people probably don't want to shell out $20-40 per pair of glasses just to have friends come over once every few months to see a 3D movie. Fact of the matter is, 3D is expensive. The movies cost more (the best deal I've ever seen on a 3D movie is about $13) and the glasses aren't cheap. Both of my TVs use passive stereoscopy, which is similar to the technology used in movie theaters. The only difference is that passive 3D TV use half of the lines of resolution per eye, which means you only get 1920x540 per eye. Movie theaters use two separate projectors -- one for each eye. The biggest benefit is that the glasses are far, far cheaper -- in fact, you can just take home the glasses that you get from the theater! I wear prescription glasses, and I actually bring my LG clip-on 3D glasses to the theater when I see 3D movies.

Also, you can easily use L+L and R+R glasses to play split-screen multi-player games in a full-screen manner. Just tell your TV that you're viewing a top-bottom broadcast, and you're good to go. LG actually marketed this as a technology called Dual Play, and I believe it was Black Ops 2 that had an actual Dual Play mode in it. Dual Play mode didn't do much for the actual gameplay, but it did adjust the game menus to work properly. Unfortunately, only LG and Vizio (Vizio actually licensed LG's technology for it) sell passive 3D TVs, and neither seem that interested in it anymore. If I remember correctly, Vizio's latest high-end TVs announced at CES don't even have 3D anymore.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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The best role I've seen Tom Cruise in is the South Park Scientology episode.
 

z0mb13

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Just got back from this movie.. a solid 10/10 and the best movie of 2014. Everything is very well thought off and you just can't predict the story line


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So I don't 100% get the ending. When he woke up in that helicopter before he met the general, he saw the general mentioning something happened in Paris that turned the tide of the war. Why was he thrown back to that earlier time? Is it done by himself or by the other enigma? Is this pretty much setting up for a sequel because he needs to kill the other enigmas as well to completely win the war?
Or as a poster mentioned he got the ability to choose the reset time after he got that blood from the enigma.
 

n7

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Very good movie. Even Tom Cruise haters can enjoy it ;)
 

Argo

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just got back.

go
see
this
movie.


I'll second that. I just wish ending was a bit better. It wasn't t bad per se, but if the whole movie was A, I'd give the ending an A-

But definitely one of the best sci fi flicks in a long long time.
 

sportage

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Thumbs up to old Tom.
But he does look like his action hero days are numbered.
However, with his loot, that shouldn't bother him. Much.
A transition from action hero into more intelligent roles.

As for this movie, again thumbs up for delivering a very entertaining flick.
Actually this was last on my list to see, but we missed all the earlier shows.
And had to do the 3D version as well since that started in just 5 minutes.

I was entertained much by this sci-fi film.
Very well done.
And keeping the interaction-storyline between the main two characters and not
so much of an ongoing group effort set this movie apart from your typical sci-fi flick.
Good show!

But... again, I had an issue with this as with so many other sci-fi movies.
The monster....
They always wreck it by doing the monster.
A great plot, an unearthly and creepy alien experience, some un-imaginary life form, then they spoil it all with the appearance of the lame comic book looking monster.
The twirling, dark, smoking/flaming, man killing alien/warriors were very believable.
But WHY add the blue face/mouth/teeth to the alien thing?
Just leave well enough alone.

The alien warriors did not need a face or mouth, not to mention blue teeth.
Just stick with the weird undefined creeping spinning octopus-like thingy hacking thru victim after victim.
Don't give it a face. Please, already.. No comic book monster face.
Why spoil it?

The ONLY sci-fi movie where the alien/monster worked with adding an actual face/mouth/teeth was the classic sci-fi film ALIEN.
THAT was some disturbing alien faced creature.
But not in this flick. If the creators can't be creative and original, as with the movie ALIEN, then skip the face.

While Im there I'll also bring up the old film JEEPERS CREEPERS.
Same issue.
This weird undefined "thing" hunting down victims, chasing down teenagers, in that old rusty truck, then tossing his victims into that pit, really made the hair on your neck stand up.
Then they spoiled it, again, with bringing in that devil-leather faced-bat-creature monster.
Totally unnecessary.
Alfred Hitchcock would have never done that with his films.

Creepy? Yes. Monster face? No.
Sorry for the rant.
 

smackababy

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I'll second that. I just wish ending was a bit better. It wasn't t bad per se, but if the whole movie was A, I'd give the ending an A-

But definitely one of the best sci fi flicks in a long long time.

I wouldn't classify this as sci fi, but it was still pretty good. I wasn't a huge fan of the ending, but it still wasn't terrible. I wish they had kept the original ending, but whatever.
 

ringtail

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Mildly OK, not a great flick,

the old Blunt chick is many years past her expiration date, and nothing special as an actress...OK but that's all.
Blunt isn't qualified to even lick the shoes of a REAL actress like the incredible breakthrough acting of Tatiana Maslany in "Orphan Black" or Claire Danes in "Homeland." None of the 3 of 'em are physicallay appealing, but Tatiana Maslany is one F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C actress.

The movie's chick seems more influential to the overall arc than the ken-doll Tom, whom, it just so happens, I detest, but hey that's just me.

There's action but scant human character development like chicks enjoy, so it's mostly a guy-flick. Broadly, chicks won't like it that much.

WHY THE HELL do directors, like in this movie, film such a large % of it in the dark? Makes it way worse to see. Man, I hate that.

Either catch it in 3-D, or else pass..

This isn't worth a $400 dinner&movie night with your hot chic.

Soon you'll see this one over & over on your gym machine's video monitor, and places like http://www.movie4k.to/ and all the tons of similar ones. Good luck trying to actually see all the several important scenes filmed in the dark. Basically you CAN'T see those many scenes unless on a big screen. Maybe that's intentional?

We (which translates to 95% "she") enjoyed this way less than, say for comparison, Pacific Rim last year, which you wouldn't expect a chick to like. Mine did.
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Rincon in foreground, looking up the Santa Barbara coast
 

BladeVenom

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WHY THE HELL do directors, like in this movie, film such a large % of it in the dark? Makes it way worse to see. Man, I hate that.

Either catch it in 3-D, or else pass..

James Cameron says it's the theaters fault when 3D movies look too dark. They turn the brightness down to save money.