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John Connor

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Having not seen a single trailer on TV, I think this movie probably sucks. Well watch it when it comes out on Blu-Ray.
 

Ruptga

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Having not seen a single trailer on TV, I think this movie probably sucks. Well watch it when it comes out on Blu-Ray.

Nobody cares. By your own admission you are completely ignorant and your post has contributed nothing here.
 

rahul

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Not having read the book ....

The way the ending occurred
They could easily say that when Cruise woke up at the end of the movie (in an earlier time than all the othertimes), that the attack is still imminent just delayed. Kinda like the terminator franchise in that judgment day is going to happen but it can be delayed.

The way the movie ended probably sets up a sequel, but I think the book handled it slightly better.

In the book,
the "Omega" emits a tachyon pulse when it is killed, the "alphas" act as antennas to guide this pulse back to the appropriate point in time where the information can be used to rejig the attack. The only way to defeat the mimics is to kill all the alphas first, and then the omega. Keiji (Cage in the movie) makes the mistake of killing an omega while there are still alphas around, thus trapping him in the loop. When he and the FMB get around to finally killing all the alphas, Wrataski reveals that having been part of the loops for so long, they are now sort of "pseudo alphas" and one of them needs to die before the loop can be broken. Epic one on one battle with axes ensues, Keiji kills Wrataski and takes her place as a beacon of hope for humanity, with other battles still to be fought.
Phew.

Very enjoyable movie overall, the only major drawback in my eyes, as a fan of the book, being the lack of battlefield action. I was hoping for some nicely choreographed scenes where the two of them cut a swathe through mimic hordes, wielding battleaxes.
 

Ruptga

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Well yeah, but I like to stick to the hard facts. ;)

Oh and be careful, he's been blacklisting people left and right over petty slights and it would be terrible if you were next. How would you even go on if that happened?


Very enjoyable movie overall, the only major drawback in my eyes, as a fan of the book, being the lack of battlefield action. I was hoping for some nicely choreographed scenes where the two of them cut a swathe through mimic hordes, wielding battleaxes.

They really did miss an opportunity there, and it would have even increased the movie's appeal to people looking for brainless pew pew.
 

Riparian

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The way the movie ended probably sets up a sequel, but I think the book handled it slightly better.

In the book,
the "Omega" emits a tachyon pulse when it is killed, the "alphas" act as antennas to guide this pulse back to the appropriate point in time where the information can be used to rejig the attack. The only way to defeat the mimics is to kill all the alphas first, and then the omega. Keiji (Cage in the movie) makes the mistake of killing an omega while there are still alphas around, thus trapping him in the loop. When he and the FMB get around to finally killing all the alphas, Wrataski reveals that having been part of the loops for so long, they are now sort of "pseudo alphas" and one of them needs to die before the loop can be broken. Epic one on one battle with axes ensues, Keiji kills Wrataski and takes her place as a beacon of hope for humanity, with other battles still to be fought.
Phew.

Very enjoyable movie overall, the only major drawback in my eyes, as a fan of the book, being the lack of battlefield action. I was hoping for some nicely choreographed scenes where the two of them cut a swathe through mimic hordes, wielding battleaxes.

I thought the omega would reset time each time an alpha was killed (according to the movie).
 

rahul

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I thought the omega would reset time each time an alpha was killed (according to the movie).

Yeah, major difference between the book and movie there. In the book,
the omega does not have a connection to the other mimics. If it is killed, it emits a tachyon pulse, that's it. And there is no way to tell an omega from an alpha from a garden variety mimic, except Keiji and Wrataski can "sense" their presence due to their being part of the loop.

Did the movie mimics remind anyone else of the squids from the Matrix?
 

GrumpyMan

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May 14, 2001
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Problems with the word "kill" in the title? I guess "Kill Bill" didn't hear about that.
 

JEDI

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ahh.. I think I get it:

every time AN alpha dies, the omega resets.
so when cruise went back the 1st time, the alpha he killed is still alive. but now cruise is an alpha. if either of the alphas die, the time jump happens.

sequel:
easy.. Cruise is now an Omega. the reason the squids gace up w/o a fight is that they're confused. now there are 2 Omegas and they don't know what to do.
so many plotlines. enuf for a 3rd movie/trilogy
 
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FuzzyDunlop

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ahh.. I think I get it:

every time AN alpha dies, the omega resets.
so when cruise went back the 1st time, the alpha he killed is still alive. but now cruise is an alpha. if either of the alphas die, the time jump happens.

sequel:
easy.. Cruise is now an Omega. the reason the squids gace up w/o a fight is that they're confused. now there are 2 Omegas and they don't know what to do.
so many plotlines. enuf for a 3rd movie/trilogy

Yup, that's what I was thinking for sequel. Now cruise is the omega and he can ccontrol
 

FuzzyDunlop

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Another thing I didn't like with the movie was that he was known worldwide from television interviews. He supposedly convinced millions to join the army, and yet nobody recognizes him when he loses rank??
 

ImpulsE69

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Watched it over the weekend. Enjoyable overall, but I thought the same thing as the above person. That and they didn't really explain why the French government was trying to screw him over.
 

Aikouka

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Watched it over the weekend. Enjoyable overall, but I thought the same thing as the above person. That and they didn't really explain why the French government was trying to screw him over.

I just took it that they thought he was some pompous, armchair general that wasn't willing to get his hands dirty, and that made the commander mad.
 

smackababy

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Watched it over the weekend. Enjoyable overall, but I thought the same thing as the above person. That and they didn't really explain why the French government was trying to screw him over.

He was trying to get out of combat, by any way necessary. And the general didn't give two shits about his excuses. I agree, it is a bit strange nobody recognized him, but even that isn't that hard to believe.

Besides, if nothing else, that movie was 2 hours of me making googly eyes and Emily Blunt, and that was enjoyable!

I actually think as a scifi movie, this was pretty good. I am debating picking it up on BluRay.
 

ImpulsE69

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Forgot to ask, in the book do they explain why they are called 'mimics'? They didn't seem to mimic anything :)
 

smackababy

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Forgot to ask, in the book do they explain why they are called 'mimics'? They didn't seem to mimic anything :)

They are called something different in the books IIRC. And, I would assume that because they can reset, they could eventually mimic the actions of the enemies, as they know what they are going to do.
 

Ichinisan

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Another thing I didn't like with the movie was that he was known worldwide from television interviews. He supposedly convinced millions to join the army, and yet nobody recognizes him when he loses rank??

Maybe his recruitment was all done in a particular region (like USA), and maybe the rest of his unit was comprised entirely of people from other regions.
 

jtvang125

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He was trying to get out of combat, by any way necessary. And the general didn't give two shits about his excuses. I agree, it is a bit strange nobody recognized him, but even that isn't that hard to believe.

Besides, if nothing else, that movie was 2 hours of me making googly eyes and Emily Blunt, and that was enjoyable!

I actually think as a scifi movie, this was pretty good. I am debating picking it up on BluRay.

He wasn't assigned to combat duties. Cage was just an Army head PR guy that was brought in by the general to cover and put a positive spin on the invasion. Although he wouldn't be fighting he was required to be on the ground with a film crew during the attack. Cage refused the order because he could possibly die and blackmailed the general to get out of it.
 

smackababy

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He wasn't assigned to combat duties. Cage was just an Army head PR guy that was brought in by the general to cover and put a positive spin on the invasion. Although he wouldn't be fighting he was required to be on the ground with a film crew during the attack. Cage refused the order because he could possibly die and blackmailed the general to get out of it.

Being on the ground, was being in combat. Especially, with how everything other battle happened. They only won the battle Emily Blunt was the hero of. Him trying to blackmail the general to get out of it, just sealed his fate as a fuckwad. Although, nobody believing him is a bit unbelievable. I mean, this is the future. The general couldn't have possibly deleted his military records and falsified evidence against him.
 

phucheneh

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I don't believe it was even a requirement for people to not remember him. While he did indeed seem generally foreign to all of the enlisted ranks, they still made it clear that his 'cover' was that he was a deserter. His orders basically included a note that said 'don't listen to my bullshit.' So even if Bill Paxton (or anyone else) recognized him as the PR officer, they had no reason to care about his plight.